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No way in hell Bernie supports a "stronger DNC" as it currently operates.

It would be fair to state that all true progressive Democrats, including "Bernie and his supporters" would like to see the augean stable known as Debbie Wasserman's DNC swept clean of it's wheeling/dealing - but pray tell, do tell us how sending money to the pro-Clinton DNC during the primary season would benefit Sanders one red cent!

And/or do provide any, I repeat ANY link quoting Bernie as pro DNC.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=410036

Now as to Hillary and her supporters, it's a different story.
Hillary's History w/ the DNC - it ain't pretty!

Thank you, history and the web - the truth shall set us free!
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/15/us/politics/15donate.html?_r=2&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&ref=politics&adxnnlx=1205594133-dqwJKQD5QfyPdnTN623rfA&
Delegate Battles Snarl Democrats in Two States

By MICHAEL LUO and JOHN M. BRODER
Published: March 15, 2008

Democrats in Michigan and Florida struggled Friday to resolve the impasse over their disputed January primaries, coming up with a plan to hold a June primary in Michigan while remaining deadlocked in Florida.

Reflecting how tense the situation has become, influential fund-raisers for Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton have stepped up their behind-the-scenes pressure on national party leaders to resolve the matter, with some even threatening to withhold their donations to the Democratic National Committee unless it seats the delegates from the two states or holds new primaries there.

Pushing to seat the Florida delegates, at least one top Clinton fund-raiser, Paul Cejas, a Miami businessman who has given the Democratic National Committee $63,500 since 2003, has demanded Democratic officials return his 2007 contribution of $28,500, which they have agreed to do. “If you’re not going to count my vote, I’m not going to give you my money,” said Mr. Cejas, who was the United States ambassador to Belgium from 1998 to 2001.

Christopher Korge, a Florida real estate developer who is another top fund-raiser for Mrs. Clinton, held an event last year in his home that brought in about $140,000 for the national party, which was set aside in a special account for the general election battle in Florida. But he told committee officials this week that if Florida’s delegate conundrum was not settled satisfactorily he would be asking for the money back. “If we do not resolve this issue,” Mr. Korge said, “I think it’s safe to say there will be a request for a return of $140,000.”

http://americablog.com/2008/03/hillary-urging-donors-to-blackmail-dnc-into-stealing-the-election-for-her.html

Christopher Korge, a Florida real estate developer who is another top fund-raiser for Mrs. Clinton, held an event last year in his home that brought in about $140,000 for the national party, which was set aside in a special account for the general election battle in Florida. But he told committee officials this week that if Florida’s delegate conundrum was not settled satisfactorily he would be asking for the money back. “If we do not resolve this issue,” Mr. Korge said, “I think it’s safe to say there will be a request for a return of $140,000.”

http://americablog.com/2008/03/hillary-urging-donors-to-blackmail-dnc-into-stealing-the-election-for-her.html
Written by: John Aravosis is the former editor of AMERICAblog, which he founded in 2004. He has a joint law degree (JD) and masters in Foreign Service from Georgetown (1989); and worked in the US Senate, World Bank, Children's Defense Fund, and as a stringer for the Economist.

Hillary urging donors to blackmail DNC into stealing the election for her
3/15/08 1:12pm by John Aravosis
I’m really getting sick of Hillary’s crap. Fighting tough is welcome. Fighting dirty is not. I liked Hillary. Joe and I reached out to her campaign to help them two years ago. Now, I’m starting to wonder if even a small portion of the past vilification of the Clintons wasn’t justified. I mean, urging your donors, for all intents and purposes, to blackmail the Democratic party? In essence, telling your donors that if you can’t be the nominee then the Democrats should lose the election? (And that’s exactly what’s happening. Hillary wants the DNC to seat the delegates from the non-election that happened in Florida after the state willfully violated DNC rules, knowing full well what would happen if they did. Now Hillary wants all those delegates seated, from the non-election, so she can steal the election from Obama). Is it any wonder that 25% of Hillary’s supporters say they won’t support Obama in the general election? Hillary is the one telling them that they shouldn’t support Obama, that they shouldn’t support their own party. Howard Dean should tell Hillary Lieberman stop her crap, now, or resign from the Democratic party. Contrary to Her Majesty’s thinking, there are other Democrats worthy of leading our country. Read more about Hillary’s latest attempt to steal the election, from the NYT.
Written by: John Aravosis is the former editor of AMERICAblog, which he founded in 2004. He has a joint law degree (JD) and masters in Foreign Service from Georgetown (1989); and worked in the US Senate,

Fundraising assistance flouts DNC's own presidential primary neutrality rules.

‘Impartial’ DNC finance chief helps Hillary Clinton
DNC rules, designed to ensure all candidates get a fair shake in presidential primaries, state: “The Chairperson shall be responsible for ensuring that the national officers and staff of the Democratic National Committee maintain impartiality and even-handedness during the Democratic Party Presidential nominating process.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/impartial-dnc-finance-chief-helps-hillary-clinton-118558.html#ixzz3c3EIUaXK

And don't try to duck and dodge the subject matter by trashing Politico or its reporter of this story as a source.

If in fact you ARE a Sanders supporter, you will just love this piece Ben Schreckinger/Politico did on Bernie:

In 1988, toward the end of Sanders’ four-term tenure — long after a local Democratic leader predicted the movement that swept Sanders into office would be gone in a decade — the U.S. Conference of Mayors named Burlington the most livable city in the country with a population of under 100,000 (in a tie). Then Sanders’ director of community and economic development succeeded him in the mayor’s office and Inc. Magazine named Burlington the best city in the Northeast for a growing business.

And what about the guy who told UPI “Everyone’s scared” when the Lenin of Lake Champlain first stormed to power in 1981? That was the state’s then-Democratic Party chairman, Mark Kaplan. Today, he’s on board with a socialist in the White House.

“I actually donated to him,” said Kaplan. “I’m kind of excited about it.”


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/05/how-bernie-sanderss-radical-ideas-entered-the-municipal-mainstream-118447.html#ixzz3c3FLJT4Z

Hillary's History w/ the DNC - it ain't pretty!

Thank you, history and the web - the truth shall set us free!
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/15/us/politics/15donate.html?_r=2&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&ref=politics&adxnnlx=1205594133-dqwJKQD5QfyPdnTN623rfA&
Delegate Battles Snarl Democrats in Two States

By MICHAEL LUO and JOHN M. BRODER
Published: March 15, 2008

Democrats in Michigan and Florida struggled Friday to resolve the impasse over their disputed January primaries, coming up with a plan to hold a June primary in Michigan while remaining deadlocked in Florida.

Reflecting how tense the situation has become, influential fund-raisers for Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton have stepped up their behind-the-scenes pressure on national party leaders to resolve the matter, with some even threatening to withhold their donations to the Democratic National Committee unless it seats the delegates from the two states or holds new primaries there.

Pushing to seat the Florida delegates, at least one top Clinton fund-raiser, Paul Cejas, a Miami businessman who has given the Democratic National Committee $63,500 since 2003, has demanded Democratic officials return his 2007 contribution of $28,500, which they have agreed to do. “If you’re not going to count my vote, I’m not going to give you my money,” said Mr. Cejas, who was the United States ambassador to Belgium from 1998 to 2001.

Christopher Korge, a Florida real estate developer who is another top fund-raiser for Mrs. Clinton, held an event last year in his home that brought in about $140,000 for the national party, which was set aside in a special account for the general election battle in Florida. But he told committee officials this week that if Florida’s delegate conundrum was not settled satisfactorily he would be asking for the money back. “If we do not resolve this issue,” Mr. Korge said, “I think it’s safe to say there will be a request for a return of $140,000.”

http://americablog.com/2008/03/hillary-urging-donors-to-blackmail-dnc-into-stealing-the-election-for-her.html
Written by: John Aravosis is the former editor of AMERICAblog, which he founded in 2004. He has a joint law degree (JD) and masters in Foreign Service from Georgetown (1989); and worked in the US Senate, World Bank, Children's Defense Fund, and as a stringer for the Economist.

Hillary urging donors to blackmail DNC into stealing the election for her
3/15/08 1:12pm by John Aravosis
I’m really getting sick of Hillary’s crap. Fighting tough is welcome. Fighting dirty is not. I liked Hillary. Joe and I reached out to her campaign to help them two years ago. Now, I’m starting to wonder if even a small portion of the past vilification of the Clintons wasn’t justified. I mean, urging your donors, for all intents and purposes, to blackmail the Democratic party? In essence, telling your donors that if you can’t be the nominee then the Democrats should lose the election? (And that’s exactly what’s happening. Hillary wants the DNC to seat the delegates from the non-election that happened in Florida after the state willfully violated DNC rules, knowing full well what would happen if they did. Now Hillary wants all those delegates seated, from the non-election, so she can steal the election from Obama). Is it any wonder that 25% of Hillary’s supporters say they won’t support Obama in the general election? Hillary is the one telling them that they shouldn’t support Obama, that they shouldn’t support their own party. Howard Dean should tell Hillary Lieberman stop her crap, now, or resign from the Democratic party. Contrary to Her Majesty’s thinking, there are other Democrats worthy of leading our country. Read more about Hillary’s latest attempt to steal the election, from the NYT.

Here's MoveOn's message to Hillary



http://front.moveon.org/moveon-reacts-to-hillary-clintons-comments/#.VW4yJlKnaDE
MoveOn Reacts to Hillary Clinton's Comments
By Brian Stewart. Tuesday, August 12 2014

Statement from Ilya Sheyman, Executive Director of MoveOn Political Action, in response to reported comments from former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton:

“Secretary Clinton, and any other person thinking about seeking the Democratic nomination in 2016, should think long and hard before embracing the same policies advocated by right-wing war hawks that got America into Iraq in the first place and helped set the stage for Iraq’s troubles today. These hawkish policy stances are also threatening to undermine the peaceful international resolution of Iran’s nuclear program.

Voters elected President Obama in 2008 to bring the war in Iraq to an end. MoveOn members will continue to stand with elected officials who oppose military escalation that could put us back on a path to endless war.”

Find another thread to post your faux quotes & suppositions, pretty please!

Obviously, I never said what you attributed to me. Now play nice!

And linking MoveOn.org to the DNC is even more preposterous than calling HRC a progressive. Actually, I've supported MoveOn.org for many years. They've done some great pieces on Bernie.

http://front.moveon.org/tag/bernie-sanders/#.VW4vslKnaDE

Bernie Sanders
A Republican Blames A 'Global Warming Hoax' On MoveOn, But Bernie Sanders Isn't Having It
Republican Senator Inhofe believes global warming is a hoax and it is brought to you by your friends at MoveOn.org, among others. Senator Sanders had a few things to tell him at this senate hearing.

Bernie Sanders Reveals The Truth About The Deficit

The Powerful Bernie Sanders Quote That Has Been Shared Thousands Of Times

Bernie's No-Bullsh_t Defense Of Social Security That's All Over Facebook

Bernie Sanders Has An Amazingly Simple Idea To Fix Social Security For The Next 75 Years

Bernie Sanders On The Devastating Effects Of The Farm Bill

Bernie Sanders On Why Some Billionaires Are Running For The Border

Bernie Sanders On How The Supreme Court Sold American Democracy To The Highest Bidder
Citizens United explained like only Bernie can.

A Hauntingly Beautiful Clip About What Is Happening To The Middle Class
A powerful Bernie Sanders speech, illustrated via melting ice sculpture. Watch:

Bernie Sanders Slays The GOP ''Debt'' Monster With 5 Minutes Of Pure Common Sense

OMG! DNC using picture of Bernie to solicit funds!

The ad popped up on my screen when I was checking out a fracking article. It has a photo of Bernie, with another photo of Hillary slightly behind him. The wording includes the incredible statement, "send a progressive like Hillary or Bernie to the Oval Office."

I'd say they're taking Bernie and the large number of people who have donated to his campaign in such a short time quite seriously! And what a stretch to promote Hillary as a progressive.

Trying to siphon off funds that would be donated to Bernie. I sincerely trust that none of Bernie's supporters on DU are gullible enough to send funds to the Democratic National committee. I stopped doing that years ago - always give directly to candidates at federal, state and local level.

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on edit: this was the link on which the ad appeared: http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2013/08/nuns-bluegrass-pipeline-loretto?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+motherjones%2Fmain+%28MotherJones.com+Main+Article+Feed%29

Thomas fits in with Quisling & Vichy France-Petain.

He is a member of that despicable group of people who betray their own - call them collaborators, call them traitors, call them quislings or call them uncle toms. And consider the nouveau riche/arrivistes - including those who grew up in a middle class/working class family, but acquired unaccustomed status, wealth, or success, especially by dubious means and without earning concomitant esteem; a person who is unscrupulously ambitious. Like say, politicians who become obsessed with joining the One Percent?

Thomas fits in with:

A quisling is a person who collaborates with an enemy occupying force. The word originates from the Norwegian war-time leader Vidkun Quisling, who headed a domestic Nazi collaborationist regime during the Second World War.

Judas Iscariot

Vichy France & Marshal Philippe Pétain

It comes down to a combination of low self esteem and greed. Groucho Marx ridiculed such a lack of self-worth by famously joking he'd refuse to join any club which would have him for a member.

"Deputy Director & Leon E. Panetta Fellow" tells me all I need to know

That the deputy director is funded via being designated a "Leon E. Panetta Fellow" speaks volumes as to the political philosophy of this organization.


How This Ends: A Blueprint for De-Escalation in Syria
Deputy Director of Studies and Leon E. Panetta Fellow Dr. Dafna H. Rand and Research Associate Nicholas Heras argue for the importance of focusing on a political framework for de-escalating the civil conflict in Syria.
-- Dafna Rand, Nicholas Heras. November 6, 2014.


And she has the requisite connection to HRC: From 2010 to 2012, she covered the Middle East and North Africa for Secretary Hillary Clinton's Policy Planning Staff, and in this capacity contributed to the U.S. government's response to the Arab Spring, including diplomatic planning for the intervention in Libya and the U.S. response to the Syrian conflict.

So if Panetta's war-like policies and CIA background are your cup of tea, you'll love this outfit. And doubtless you are looking forward to getting your war on should HRC be elected.
http://www.scmp.com/news/world/article/1612222/ex-cia-chief-leon-panetta-latest-stab-barack-obama-print

Headline: Ex-CIA chief Leon Panetta is latest to stab Barack Obama in print
Sub-headline: Ex-CIA chief follows former cabinet members Gates and Clinton in using memoir to paint a still-serving president as not warlike enough

Former US defence secretary Robert Gates was first to land a punch. Then former secretary of state Hillary Rodham Clinton weighed in with a memoir that distanced herself from her president's foreign policy.

And on Tuesday, former CIA chief and defence secretary Leon Panetta released a book about his years in the administration in which he criticises President Barack Obama as a vacillating leader who "avoids the battle".

All presidents have had in-house critics. But rarely has a president faced the degree of public criticism from former senior cabinet members that Obama has this year. The critiques are particularly notable because they have appeared while Obama is still in office. Panetta's Worthy Fights has appeared as US mid-term elections approach, when criticism of Obama could boost his Republican opposition.

The chorus of cabinet members' complaints "is really like no other case in the modern era", said Aaron David Miller, who worked as a diplomat for presidents of both parties. Fairly or not, they are "reinforcing the image of a president who has pushed risk aversion in foreign policy too far".The former-officials-turned-authors aren't members of Obama's personal inner circle, like Chief of Staff Denis McDonough, who hasn't written a book.But all three were pillars of Obama's first-term team and central in shaping his national security strategy.

Banks Behind HRC's Canadian Speeches Really Want Keystone Pipeline

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/31/hillary-clinton-speeches-keystone_n_7463108.html

WASHINGTON -- Two Canadian banks tightly connected to promoting the controversial Keystone XL pipeline in the United States either fully or partially paid for eight speeches made by former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in the period not long before she announced her campaign for president. Those speeches put more than $1.6 million in the Democratic candidate's pocket.

Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce and TD Bank were both primary sponsors of paid Clinton speeches in 2014 and early 2015, although only the former appears on the financial disclosure form she filed May 15. According to that document, CIBC paid Clinton $150,000 for a speech she gave in Whistler, British Columbia, on Jan. 22, 2015.

Clinton reported that another five speeches she gave across Canada were paid for by tinePublic Inc., a promotional company known for hosting speeches by world leaders and celebrities. Another speech was reported as paid for by the think tank Canada 2020, while yet another speech was reportedly funded by the Vancouver Board of Trade. But a review of invitations, press releases and media reports for those seven other speeches reveals that they, too, were either sponsored by or directly involved the two banks.

Both banks have financial ties to TransCanada, the company behind the Keystone XL pipeline, and have advocated for a massive increase in pipeline capacity, including construction of Keystone. Further, Gordon Giffin, a CIBC board member and onetime U.S. ambassador to Canada, is a former lobbyist for TransCanada and was a contributions bundler for Clinton’s 2008 presidential campaign.


Tremendous amount of further factual detail in the above article, which further quotes from details in this link:
http://ronbryn.blogspot.com/2015/05/canadian-bank-us-probed-multiple-times.html

Sunday, May 17, 2015
Headline: Canadian bank (which) US probed multiple times for fraud paid up to $1M for Hillary Clinton speeches
The Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce may only appear once on former State Secretary Hillary Clinton's mandatory financial disclosure form, but the 2016 US presidential candidate seems to have netted close to ten percent of her recent speech income from the bank which has a history of "often" being investigated for fraud by the US. Since campaign officials and organizers duck multiple media inquiries, it's hard to get the whole financial picture just from what has been publicly revealed. But it appears that the foreign bank paid close to $900,000 for Hillary Clinton speeches just in the last eight months alone.

"Hillary Clinton gave 51 paid speeches for a total of nearly $12 million since January 2014," Josh Gerstein and Louis Nelson reported for Politico. However, four-to-five of those speeches appear to have been sponsored by the Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce (CIBC), and Clinton's fee also seemed to rise until she entered the presidential race.

Journalists following the Clinton 2016 presidential campaign as it travels across the US have complained that she went over three weeks without replying to questions from the press, but Dodig has essentially paid her for at least four "interviews" delivered to thousands of Canadians within the last year.

On Twitter, CNN political producer Dan Merica - who is currently covering the Clinton campaign - joked, "@cibc CEO Victor Dodig has interviewed Hillary Clinton 3x (Edmonton, Ottawa & Winnipeg) in the last yr. What U.S. news anchor can say that?"


And yes!, my second link is to a source which quotes numbers/facts from a Politico report. As I noted in a comment on an OP by Babylon Sister, in which she relied on a Politico report, and which OP was prominently featured on DU's Homepage (May 18 - http://betterment.democraticunderground.com/10026687757):

Try posting a link from Politico which includes negative facts about either Clinton or their foundation's finances and you'll be flamed from here to Sunday with scathing remarks about what a right wing rag Politico is.

If it's (Politico) a good enough source for Babylon Sister, and for Earl G. to give it pride of place on the Home Page, then it's hypocritical to trash it as a source when you don't like the message. Disagree with the author of an article based on the content of the article, not the fact that he/she was published in Politico.

So free food and no "donation" required to attend?

That's a refreshing change! Don't know what/where HRC is up to this weekend, but Friday, she was in a Florida mansion charging a minimum of $2,700 per head for the pleasure of her company. So no pesky reporters taking notes on whatever she promised her donors in exchange for their support. But pity the fools who thought they'd get personal consideration for a measly $2,700.
As documented below, the Clinton campaign's goal is to get 20 new donors of $5 to $10 million each. Now THAT is how you get some input on selection of Supreme Court Justice nominations.

May 29/day-before-yesterday:
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/hillary-clinton-to-attend-central-florida-fundraiser/33281818

Presidential candidate and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton will be in Central Florida on Friday.

Clinton is attending a fundraising event at the home of prominent Orlando attorney John Morgan. The event takes place at Morgan's Heathrow mansion.

According to the Orlando Sentinel, the minimum donation for attendance is $2,700 to Clinton's campaign fund, which is the maximum allowable under federal law per election.



And HRC is not doing well with raising the record amount she believes is the path to the presidency. This same report was carried in the New York Times today as well. http://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/democrats-need-richer-donor-list-to-keep-up-with-

"Ickes, who is a Priorities USA board member, and other Clinton supporters are discussing how to raise up to $300 million for Democratic outside groups. That is almost twice as much as Democratic super PACs and other outside groups spent to help re-elect President Obama in 2012, when conservative super PACs far outspent liberal ones.

This ambitious goal will require the emergence of a new class of at least 20 Democratic donors who can give $5 million or even $10 million each. Ickes said recruiting them would not be easy. “Our side isn’t used to being asked for that kind of money,” Ickes said. “If you asked them to put up $100 million for a hospital wing, they’d be the first in line.”

The hurdles begin with the candidate. While Clinton has committed to meeting with potential super PAC donors, people close to her say she has not dealt with the kind of big-donor courting that has framed the early months of the Republican race.

Clinton also faces a perception that neither she nor her husband, former President Bill Clinton, is lacking cash. Together, they earned at least $30 million in the past 16 months. And Bill Clinton’s aggressive courting of donors, in the White House and now as head of the Bill, Hillary & Chelsea Clinton Foundation, has been an enduring source of controversy.



The article points out that the Conservative PACs far outspent Obama, but still lost to him. Golly, gee whiz, boys and girls, is it just possible that HRC learned nothing from that fact? She & Bill are so fixated on socking away vast amounts of money and the life styles such cash affords them, that they do not understand that $$$$ are not necessarily the winning path to the Oval Office.

Returning to the mundane world of us non One Percenters, Saturdays and Sundays are the days when most average voters can find time to come see and hear candidates. So who were either or both of the Clintons talking to this weekend?
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