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By law, legal militias include the organized and unorganized militias. Suggest you visit the links

below and learn more about your options.

State Guard Association of the United States (SGAUS) and State defense force

If you are between 17 and 45 and male, and not in an excepted position, you are already a member of the unorganized militia under federal law, 10 USC 311 - Militia: composition and classes

State laws are different and in one state, all people between 17 and 64 are part of the militia, see http://legis.la.gov/lss/lss.asp?doc=85523

Finally, congress has been derelict in performing its duties under our Article I of our Constitution, "To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia."

That responsibility includes the unorganized militia that is unorganized, unarmed, and undisciplined.

The above laws apply equally to conservative, liberal, and all other political persuasions.

Has the Governor of New York activated the New York Guard and New York Naval Militia, under federal

law part of the unorganized militia, as well as New York's Army and Air National Guards?

If that is inadequate the Governor can activate any portion of the remaining New York unorganized militia
2. The unorganized militia shall consist of all able-bodied male residents of the state between the ages of seventeen and forty-five who are not serving in any force of the organized militia or who are not on the state reserve list or the state retired list and who are or who have declared their intention to become citizens of the United States, subject, however, to such exemptions from military duty as are created by the laws of the United States.

See http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/nycode/MIL/1/2

In a few billion years our sun will be dead and earth a nothing. Don't sweat the small stuff and

it's all small stuff.

As Max Ehrmann so beautifully wrote:

Desiderata

Go placidly amid the noise and haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence.
As far as possible without surrender be on good terms with all persons.
Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and ignorant; they too have their story.
Avoid loud and aggressive persons, they are vexations to the spirit.
If you compare yourself with others, you may become vain and bitter;
for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.

Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans.
Keep interested in your career, however humble; it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.
Exercise caution in your business affairs; for the world is full of trickery.
But let this not blind you to what virtue there is; many persons strive for high ideals;
and everywhere life is full of heroism.

Be yourself.
Especially, do not feign affection.
Neither be critical about love; for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment it is as perennial as the grass.

Take kindly the counsel of the years, gracefully surrendering the things of youth.
Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune. But do not distress yourself with imaginings.
Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness. Beyond a wholesome discipline, be gentle with yourself.

You are a child of the universe, no less than the trees and the stars;
you have a right to be here.
And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.

Therefore be at peace with God, whatever you conceive Him to be,
and whatever your labors and aspirations, in the noisy confusion of life keep peace with your soul.
With all its sham, drudgery and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy.

If RKBA is not covered by the 2nd, it is indisputable that it's a natural, inherent, inalienable/

unalienable right covered by the 9th Amendment as I've discussed on DU many times since 2001.

Following are some of my posts that IMO answer your question particularly the second one:

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/jody/36

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/jody/1

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/jody/42

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/jody/37

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/jody/35

The Employment-Population Ratio is another measure of economic recovery. It was 63.7 (unadj) or

64.4 (seas) in Jan 2001 but declined to 58.5 or 58.3 in August 2012.

Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics
http://www.bls.gov/webapps/legacy/cpsatab1.htm
(Unadj) Employment-Population Ratio
Year Jan Aug
2001 63.7 63.5
2002 62.0 63.0
2003 61.8 62.4
2004 61.6 62.7
2005 61.7 63.2
2006 62.2 63.4
2007 62.6 63.0
2008 62.2 62.3
2009 59.8 59.3
2010 57.8 58.8
2011 57.6 58.5
2012 57.8 58.5

(Seas) Employment-Population Ratio
Year Jan Aug
2001 64.4 63.2
2002 62.7 62.7
2003 62.5 62.1
2004 62.3 62.4
2005 62.4 62.9
2006 62.9 63.1
2007 63.3 62.7
2008 62.9 62.0
2009 60.6 59.1
2010 58.5 58.5
2011 58.4 58.3
2012 58.5 58.3

“US drone attack kills 21, injures 72 in Somalia”

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/09/05/260046/us-drone-strike-kills-21-militants-in-somalia/
At least 21 people have been killed in the latest attack by US assassination drones in Somalia’s southwestern region of Gedo, Press TV reports.

According to local military officials, over 72 others were also wounded in the incident which took place in Buur Dubo town on Wednesday.

* * * * * * * * * * * *

Washington has been carrying out assassination attacks using the unmanned aircraft in other countries including Afghanistan, Libya, Pakistan, and Yemen.

The United States claims the CIA-run strikes are aimed at militants. But witness reports and figures offered by local authorities indicate the attacks have led to massive civilian deaths.

I’ve found numerous references to the US using its drones in Mexico, Columbia, and other Central and South American nations in the war on drugs but nothing concrete about assassination attempts or innocents killed in those countries.

Panetta has led the administration’s efforts to merge the war on drugs with the war on terror.

The administration is using drones to assassinate the bad guys in the war on terror where bad guys are now defined as any male old enough to fight as a terrorist presumably 16 years old. It’s not a stretch to expect the US will use its drones to assassinate targets in the war on drugs.

Wonder what the minimum age for boys will be in the US’ war on drugs and how that will be received by citizens in Central and South America?

In 2008 Obama said "I believe in the Second Amendment. I believe in people's lawful right to bear

arms. I will not take your shotgun away. I will not take your rifle away. I won't take your handgun away."

Obama understood the importance of Bill Clinton's assessment that Gore's perceived opposition to RKBA cost him the election.

Obama promised he would not take away arms but this time voters may not believe him given the actions of Holder and others.

“Partisan Polarization Surges in Bush, Obama Years” Pew Research Center

http://www.people-press.org/2012/06/04/partisan-polarization-surges-in-bush-obama-years/

As Americans head to the polls this November, their values and basic beliefs are more polarized along partisan lines than at any point in the past 25 years. Unlike in 1987, when this series of surveys began, the values gap between Republicans and Democrats is now greater than gender, age, race or class divides.

* * * * * * * * * * * *

With regard to the broad spectrum of values, basic demographic divisions – along lines such as gender, race, ethnicity, religion and class – are no wider than they have ever been. Men and women, whites, blacks and Hispanics, the highly religious and the less religious, and those with more and less education differ in many respects. However, these differences have not grown in recent years, and for the most part pale in comparison to the overwhelming partisan divide we see today.




Please compare the Dem and GOP platforms re RKBA. Speculation welcome on how independent voters

might react to any differences they may perceive between the two parties relative to RKBA.

2012 Democratic National Platform
http://assets.dstatic.org/dnc-platform/2012-National-Platform.pdf

Firearms. We recognize that the individual right to bear arms is an important part of the American tradition, and we will preserve Americans’ Second Amendment right to own and use firearms. We believe that the right to own firearms is subject to reasonable regulation. We understand the terrible consequences of gun violence; it serves as a reminder that life is fragile, and our time here is limited and precious. We believe in an honest, open national conversation about firearms. We can focus on effective enforcement of existing laws, especially strengthening our background check system, and we can work together to enact commonsense improvements – like reinstating the assault weapons ban and closing the gun show loophole – so that guns do not fall into the hands of those irresponsible, law-breaking few.



REPUBLICAN PLATFORM 2012
http://www.gop.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/2012GOPPlatform.pdf

The Second Amendment:
Our Right to Keep and Bear Arms
We uphold the right of individuals to keep and bear arms, a right which antedated the Constitution and was solemnly confirmed by the Second Amendment. We acknowledge, support, and defend the lawabiding citizen’s God-given right of self-defense. We call for the protection of such fundamental individual rights recognized in the Supreme Court’s decisions in District of Columbia v. Heller and McDonald v. Chicago affirming that right, and we recognize the individual responsibility to safely use and store firearms. This also includes the right to obtain and store ammunition without registration. We support the fundamental right to self-defense wherever a lawabiding citizen has a legal right to be, and we support federal legislation that would expand the exercise of that right by allowing those with state-issued carry permits to carry firearms in any state that issues such permits to its own residents. Gun ownership is responsible citizenship, enabling Americans to defend their homes and communities. We condemn frivolous lawsuits against gun manufacturers and oppose federal licensing or registration of law-abiding gun owners. We oppose legislation that is intended to restrict our Second Amendment rights by limiting the capacity of clips or magazines or otherwise restoring the illconsidered Clinton gun ban. We condemn the reckless actions associated with the operation known as “Fast and Furious,” conducted by the Department of Justice, which resulted in the murder of a U.S. Border Patrol Agent and others on both sides of the border. We applaud the Members of the U.S. House of Representatives in holding the current Administration’s Attorney General in contempt of Congress for his refusal to cooperate with their investigation into that debacle. We oppose the improper collection of firearms sales information in the four southern border states, which was imposed without congressional authority.

Your comment re patriot implies either you haven't read or don't understand PA & VT constitutions of

1776 and 1777. They say:

A DECLARATION OF THE RIGHTS OF THE INHABITANTS OF THE COMMONWEALTH OR STATE OF PENNSYLVANIA 28 Sept. 1776
That all men are born equally free and independent, and have certain natural, inherent and inalienable rights, amongst which are, the enjoying and defending life and liberty, acquiring, possessing and protecting property, and pursuing and obtaining happiness and safety.

And
That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and the state; and as standing armies in the time of peace are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be kept up; And that the military should be kept under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power.


A DECLARATION OF THE RIGHTS OF THE INHABITANTS OF THE STATE OF VERMONT 8 Jul. 1777
THAT all men are born equally free and independent, and have certain natural, inherent and unalienable rights, amongst which are the enjoying and defending life and liberty; acquiring, possessing and protecting property, and pursuing and obtaining happiness and safety. Therefore, no male person, born in this country, or brought from over sea, ought to be holden by law, to serve any person, as a servant, slave or apprentice, after he arrives to the age of twenty-one Years, nor female, in like manner, after she arrives to the age of eighteen years, unless they are bound by their own consent, after they arrive to such age, or bound by law, for the payment of debts, damages, fines, costs, or the like.

And
That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and the State; and, as standing armies, in the time of peace, are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be kept up; and that the military should be kept under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power.


As natural, inherent, inalienable/unalienable rights it is impossible for PA citizens to have given away the right of self-defense and the right keep and bear arms for self-defense when they ratified our Constitution (1787) or when they ratified the BOR (1790) or VT (1791) to have given the same rights away when they accepted the amended constitution.

The men and women who fought against King George in the war for independence believed that each person was a sovereign unto them self and did not have to beg a king or other artificial authority for a privilege. When they approved a compact for a central government they retained some of their rights and powers that government were obligated to protect.

Writers used the word "patriot" to identify those who defend our Constitution and the principles of individual freedom that preceded our Constitution. Jefferson and Madison understood that and that's why they started the Democratic Party and were authors of the Kentucky and Virginia Resolutions that defended state rights protected by the Tenth Amendment.

The Oxford English Dictionary third definition of "Patriot" is "A person actively opposing enemy forces occupying his or her country; a member of a resistance movement, a freedom fighter. Originally used of those who opposed and fought the British in the American War of Independence."

Those of us who defend the inalienable/unalienable rights our Constitution requires government to protect are "patriots" in the exact way the word was used since 1773.

Are those who wish to ignore those rights "unpatriotic"? Perhaps that's your problem.
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