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"Does it really matter if an insurance company or the government provides the coverage

if the care is the same?"

The difference with paying the private health industry is that the difference fattens the pockets of its execs, lobbyists, and stockholders while they invent excuses for not covering people (or even paying their employees) so they can turn an even bigger profit.

I don't mind paying for health care, which is why your post does not offend me. However, I do mind paying to further enrich those who do NOT "trickle down" the money via "job creation." I'd rather spend it on preventing EVERYONE from getting sicker than they need to -- and dying sooner than they ought to.


DING DING DING! Spitfire, you're our grand prize winner!

What needed to happen was to make this guy an embarrassment to not only them but to the very concept of professional journalism.

Which Obama also did by refusing to take any additional questions once he was done: the military "if ONE of you has screwed up, then ALL OF YOU have screwed up" principal. Think of all the "evil eyes" Munro must have gotten after that -- even Fox News had to dump on him!

Liberals are at their best when they attack with humor because the Right Wing has no sense of humor.

Click here if you are not familiar with DUer Plaid Adder's superb post on the subject:

...(W)hy is it that so much right-wing political humor just plain doesn't work -- even for its target audience?...I think..(it)...has to do with the basic conflict between comedy and authority...(D)isrespect for authority is the foundation of real comedy...

Mocking the powerful has the positive effect of reminding everyone that though these figures may be powerful, they are not superhuman, and can be resisted/outwitted/defied; it also has the therapeutic effect of validating the anger and pain we feel as we suffer for these people, and reminding us that in fact, it's not us, it's them.

Mocking the vulnerable is just bullying, and all it does is pander to the audience's worst instincts. Right-wing pundits in the main either don't understand this rule, or have a seriously warped understanding of who's vulnerable and who's powerful...

Munro may have thought he was "defying and outwitting the powerful" by condemning the executive order before Obama was done explaining it. But in a textbook example of "seriously warped understanding," Munro ended up "mocking the vulnerable" by accusing Obama of issuing an order that made its recipients "more powerful" than "real" Americans.

This thread has thrived because it strangles Munro on his own rhetoric: you can thrust his arrogant posturing and obnoxious attitude into ANY situation (even the very birth of the universe!) -- and he comes across not as a passionate, professional truth-seeker, but as a self-serving, partisan, overgrown frat brat!


They call him the S-word because it's literally the next best thing to the N-word

Saying that you shouldn't vote for Obama because he's black is not an option because it's as irrational as it is racist.

Saying that you shouldn't vote for Obama because he's a communist is not an option, either -- it's too obvious that you're saying it simply because you can't say that you shouldn't vote for Obama because he's black.

Calling him a socialist, however, splits the difference perfectly -- it gives you all the advantages of calling him both the N-word AND the C-word without actually using them. The S-word provides just the right touch of "reasonable doubt." And the mainstream media is either too chicken or profit-hungry to call anyone it -- after all, controversy sells.


Well, which of these scenarios sound more realistic?

Based on the bail revocation motion:

4/17: From Post #21:
In a prison conversation, he said, "I think my passport in is that bag"; she said, "I have one for you in safety deposit box"; and he said, "Okay, you hold onto that."

4/20: First passport (expiration May 2012) turned over to the court.

5/1 (approximately): Zimmerman and wife find second passport (valid through May 2014) while cleaning house, and give it to O'Mara.

6/1: Bail revocation motion filed. Bail revocation hearing. O'Mara says he has had the second passport for about a month, but forgot to turn it in. He turns it over to the court.

6/1: Bail revocation motion filed. O'Mara reads in the motion that Zimmerman has a second passport, plus "prison talk" which leaves the impression that it's being concealed deliberately. O'Mara contacts Zimmerman and shrieks, "GET THAT PASSPORT OVER HERE RIGHT THE !!#&#*%$ NOW!!!" O'Mara turns in passport at revocation hearing, and takes the rap in an effort to preserve Zimmerman's credibility.


They call him a socialist because they can't call him a black guy

They can't say, "Don't vote for Obama because he's a black guy." But note how close R-Money comes to saying "Vote for me because I'm a white guy" in this commercial:

“...But there’s something more than legislation or new policy. It’s the feeling we’ll have that our country’s back, back on the right track. That’s what will be different about a Romney presidency.”

Since Mitt can longer run on his public sector record, his private sector record, his Olympic record, his religion, or his financial transparency, he's left on running on the promise of restoring the natural order of politics: with him as president, you will be able feel better about yourself and America's future because it will be a WHITE guy who is screwing you over. And if he can convince enough independent voters of that, he can win. Surely a lack of change from a white president is superior to a lack of change from a black one!


This story is bizarre even by Moonie Washington Times standards

Sgt. Corrigan volunteered to serve for a year in Iraq from 2005-2006...Among other duties, the sergeant would go out on patrol with the Iraqis, clear routes of IEDs...Sgt. Corrigan never fully recovered emotionally from the combat and continues to have vivid nightmares that gave him insomnia...He says that in his daily life now, he’s still looking for the “IED triggerman”...The Veterans’ Affairs (VA) hospital gave him medication...(H)e was tasked to prepare a mental health manual for his soldiers on mild traumatic brain injury and suicide prevention.

Someone with problems that prevented him from being re-deployed and puts him on medication for nearly four years was asked to work on a suicide prevention project? They really ARE short-handed!

On a pamphlet from VA hospital, he saw a link to a website VeteransCrisisLine.net. On it, he found a number for a counseling hotline, which turned out to be a suicide hotline...When he called it a little before midnight...The woman asked for his name, address, phone number, whether he was active duty, if he was using alcohol or drugs, and his unit. Then she asked if he had any firearms...He had recently moved...but had not registered them because he thought the process was too convoluted and risky.

Nonetheless, if it was required by law, he should have done it. Or did he not want to take the "risk" of losing his weapons due to his mental condition?

“I told her, ‘I don’t have the gun out.’ And she kept saying, ‘Put down the gun.’ She talked like I had the gun in one hand and my cell phone in the other...She insisted I repeat the words, ‘The guns are down,’” he said. “I finally got agitated and said, ‘I shouldn’t have called’ and hung up.” Then, Sgt. Corrigan took a prescribed sleeping pill and went to bed. (He was) jolted awake four hours later...

I once called 911 when I meant to dial 411. I explained my mistake, apologized, and hung up. They called me right back. You'd think that someone allegedly studying crisis intervention would know better than to hang up on a hotline like that at midnight. And if the hotline operator was so sure that he was suicidal, how come it took four hours for the cops to turn up? I know that the Washington DC area isn't used to major snowstorms, but don't their response vehicles have all-weather tires?

Part 2 of the story, meanwhile, reads like an episode of Reno 911. I'm not unsympathetic towards the guy, and I hope that all charges are eventually dropped. But this arrest didn't happen out of the blue -- there's enough blame to go all around.


And in case you think this doesn't matter

Click and guess who.





DING DING DING! Warren DeMontague, you're our grand prize winner!

But moral panic

and anti-sex prudishness

ARE issues in our society.

To me, pearl-clutching should have nothing do with gender, sexual orientation, or even wearing pearls -- it should be about outrage that is either fabricated (like Newt's) or misplaced (like Hyacinth's), then blown out of proportion.

Just last night, Gingrich clutched his pearls over Obama's apology for U.S.-led troops "accidentally" burning Korans in a prison. But was he REALLY outraged, or just grabbing an opportunity to bash Obama and advance his ambitions? Put another way, can you imagine Gingrich praising Obama for NOT apologizing? No, he'd probably point to it as proof that he has no control as commander-in-chief. Glenn Beck and and Sarah are fabricating pearl clutchers, too.

As for Hyacinth Bucket, she once told her husband that all she wants is to ensure that his life "flows in a placid stream." As long as she's controlling that stream, of course -- so much so that HER pearl clutching was turbo-charged. A cracked teacup, a newsboy scratching his ear, someone brushing against her walls or talking loudly in the street, her sister's mini-skirts, her brother-in-law's right to bare arms: the tiniest deviation of her world order had her grasping at her throat, then blindly counterattacking. We laughed at Hyacinth hardest when she found herself stranded in the debris of her laid-to-waste planning.

That's why I'm comfortable with the term "pearl clutching": it's not just for prudes anymore.


DING DING DING! Public Policy Polling's Tom Jensen, you're our grand prize winner!

“Republican voters aren’t ready to run through a wall for any of these candidates, in contrast to the way Democrats felt about Clinton and Obama in 2008...”

Yes, I remember it well -- here at DU, the "Obamatrons" and the "Hillbots" went at each other like rams during the rutting season.

It was painful -- so painful that I feared DU would see its first unsuccessful donation drives. But I would gladly re-live every second of it, because I realize now that we had candidates who were WORTH fighting over. And since no one was pre-selected and force-fed upon us, the landslide majority of the Hillbots were able to get behind Obama when the smoke cleared.

As for the tsunami of anti-Obama sentiment that the GOP is reduced to counting on, it might happen, but I don't think it will be big enough. Even if the GOP voters get their wish and end up with a Chris Christie or a Tim Pawlenty, the GOP primary season has soured too many moderates and independents for them to get within even a cheatproof margin.


I was going to watch the launch at home and get to work a little late

But once I learned it was 32 degrees in Florida, I left at my usual time because I didn't think for one second that they'd attempt to launch in such weather when they'd never done it before.

I arrived at work to find people gathered around the TV in a conference room. Though the temperature had skyrocketed to a scorching 36 degrees, my exact words were "They're STILL going through with it? They're CRAZY!" Nonetheless, I was still so confident that the launch would be called off that I went to my cubicle, turned on the radio and proceeded with my work day. It was the radio that told me what had happened, and I rushed back to the conference room where I saw the "replay."

I recall that the launch had already been delayed at least once. News reports suggested that NASA was under political pressure to produce results, and no doubt Morton Thiokol wanted to protect their reputation (not to mention collect their fees). Now it turns out that frozen O-rings had been a potential danger since they got off the drawing board; that the engineers had been overruled by corporate management; that another engineer was branded a whistleblower for telling the truth; that Boisjoly couldn't bring himself to watch the launch; and that NASA juggled safety and political expediency routinely.

So it turns out that I had been right: they WERE crazy.

Roger Boisjoly's career was hijacked because he did the right thing. Postponing the launch until the weather improved would have been the right thing. Doing the right thing isn't always fun or comfortable or easy or convenient -- but it IS always right.

There's no need to hope that Roger Boisjoly will rest in peace -- he's already taken care of that. So I'll call just him a great American hero and patriot, and thank him for his service.

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