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Name: David Allen
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Hometown: Washington, DC
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President Obama Affirms His Support for Same Sex Marriage

Source: ABC News

President Obama today announced that he now supports same-sex marriage, reversing his longstanding opposition amid growing pressure from the Democratic base and even his own vice president.

In an interview with ABC News’ Robin Roberts, the president described his thought process as an “evolution” that led him to this place, based on conversations with his own staff members, openly gay and lesbian service members, and conversations with his wife and own daughters.

"I have to tell you that over the course of several years as I have talked to friends and family and neighbors when I think about members of my own staff who are in incredibly committed monogamous relationships, same-sex relationships, who are raising kids together, when I think about those soldiers or airmen or marines or sailors who are out there fighting on my behalf and yet feel constrained, even now that Don't Ask Don't Tell is gone, because they are not able to commit themselves in a marriage, at a certain point I’ve just concluded that for me personally it is important for me to go ahead and affirm that I think same sex couples should be able to get married,” Obama told Roberts, in an interview to appear on ABC’s “Good Morning America” Thursday. Excerpts of the interview will air tonight on ABC’s “World News with Diane Sawyer.”

The president stressed that this is a personal position, and that he still supports the concept of states deciding the issue on their own. But he said he’s confident that more Americans will grow comfortable with gays and lesbians getting married, citing his own daughters’ comfort with the concept.

Read more: http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/president-obama-affirms-his-support-for-same-sex-marriage.html



Video here: http://gma.yahoo.com/video/news-26797925/obama-same-sex-marriage-should-be-legal-29242313.html

According to the DU Terms of Service, general election season has begun. Don't expect big changes.

It is clear that the 2012 presidential election is going to be President Obama vs. Mitt Romney. So, for the purposes of enforcement of the DU Terms of Service, general election season has begun. Here is the relevant section:

Vote for Democrats.
Winning elections is important — therefore, advocating in favor of Republican nominees or in favor of third-party spoiler candidates that could split the vote and throw an election to our conservative opponents is never permitted on Democratic Underground. But that does not mean that DU members are required to always be completely supportive of Democrats. During the ups-and-downs of politics and policy-making, it is perfectly normal to have mixed feelings about the Democratic officials we worked hard to help elect. When we are not in the heat of election season, members are permitted to post strong criticism or disappointment with our Democratic elected officials, or to express ambivalence about voting for them. In Democratic primaries, members may support whomever they choose. But when general election season begins, DU members must support Democratic nominees (EXCEPT in rare cases where were a non-Democrat is most likely to defeat the conservative alternative, or where there is no possibility of splitting the liberal vote and inadvertently throwing the election to the conservative alternative). For presidential contests, election season begins when both major-party nominees become clear. For non-presidential contests, election season begins on Labor Day. Everyone here on DU needs to work together to elect more Democrats and fewer Republicans to all levels of American government. If you are bashing, trashing, undermining, or depressing turnout for our candidates during election season, we'll assume you are rooting for the other side.

So, what does this mean? In short, it means we're all expected to support President Obama for re-election in 2012. If you are going to vote for President Obama, then you'll probably be fine.

We know some members are expecting the start of election season to signal a sea change on DU, in which the hammer drops and criticism of President Obama is stopped in its tracks. But 2012 is not 2008 or 2004. At this point, we don't see any reason why that would happen. In fact, we don't think there is going to be a particularly noticeable difference between primary season and general election season here on DU, for two reasons.

There was no divisive Democratic presidential primary campaign this year
Back in 2004 and 2008 we had fiercely contested Democratic presidential primaries, in which DU members picked sides and fought like hell for their candidates. When the primaries were finally over there was lots of ill-will, and some members who supported unsuccessful candidates were not in any mood to support the nominee. Those people who insisted on continuing the primary-season fighting after primary season was over were poisoning the community and ultimately some of them needed to be removed. But this year there was no Democratic presidential primary, so we don't have any problems with primary-season sour grapes.

Barack Obama is already the President of the United States
Back in 2004 and 2008 the sitting president was a Republican, George W. Bush. In both years, our candidates -- John Kerry in 2004 and Barack Obama in 2008 -- were merely aspiring to the job of President. This is an important distinction. When our candidates did not hold the office of President, there was really no compelling need to criticize them except to derail their campaigns. But this year, President Obama is already President, and he is going to continue to exercise the powers of the office of President of the United States throughout the campaign. This means he is going to make real decisions that have real-world consequences, and DU members are likely to disagree about some of those decisions. We are not going to stop people from posting good-faith criticism of the President's actions as President. We know we went through some pretty ugly periods here during the Obama presidency, but at this point it looks like almost everyone here is on-board with President Obama already, and we don't anticipate that changing. (To be clear, you don't get a green light to relentlessly trash President Obama if you claim you are going to vote for him. As the TOS say: If you are bashing, trashing, undermining, or depressing turnout for our candidates during election season, we'll assume you are rooting for the other side.)

Having said all that, please be aware that the DU Terms of Service are pretty strict, and we don't cut a great deal of slack to people who violate them. If you are here to advocate on behalf of Mitt Romney or some lost-cause third-party spoiler, you will be banned. We're unlikely to give you a warning first because -- let's face it -- if you are supporting someone other than Barack Obama you are on the wrong website. We don't care if you live in the bluest blue state, or the reddest red state -- President Obama is our candidate.

Skinner, EarlG, Elad
DU Administrators

There is no requirement that anti-social behavior be allowed in the Help & Meta-discussion forum.

Like many other DUers I am not particularly impressed with some of the behavior that goes on here in the Help & Meta-discussion Forum. Let me be clear: I'm not posting this to lay down the law or to tell anyone how to act. You are all adults, and you can control how you behave, and you can decide whether your own behavior has lived up to the standards you expect of yourselves.

However, I would like to address one misconception that I have seen posted here a number of times over the last few days. The misconception is that anti-social behaviors -- "call-outs" or personal attacks or whatever -- are allowed in the Help & Meta discussion forum, and that DU Jurors have a responsibility to permit such behaviors. This is simply wrong.

The Help & Meta-discussion forum, like every other forum and group on Democratic Underground, is subject to the DU Community Standards, which state:

It is the responsibility of all DU members to participate on our discussion forums in a manner that promotes a positive atmosphere and encourages good discussions among a diverse community of people holding a broad range of center-to-left viewpoints. Members should refrain from posting messages on DU that are disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate. These broad community standards of behavior are maintained though the combined efforts of members posting and serving on citizen juries, using their own best judgment to decide what behavior is appropriate and what is not.

Note that the last sentence specifically mentions two ways by which we all maintain our Community Standards:

1) By posting. (ie: Modeling the behavior we wish to see on DU.)
2) By serving on Juries. (ie: Judging whether others are modeling the behavior we wish to see on DU.)

So if you do not approve of the current state of affairs in the Help & Meta-discussion forum, there at least two things you can do. You can post in a manner that you feel is appropriate. And when you serve on a Jury, you can vote to hide anti-social behavior.

Despite all the bemoaning it is quite obvious that many people who post regularly in the Help & Meta-discussion forum are fine with the behavior that goes on here -- and that is a legitimate point of view (albeit one I disagree with). You can post and judge other posts however you like.

I feel obligated to point out, however, that it is simply incorrect to tell Jurors that they are "doing it wrong" when they vote to hide Help & Meta posts which they consider to be anti-social or otherwise disruptive.

The Mitt Romney Gun Photo Challenge. Win a DU T-Shirt!

This morning we wanted to do a Pic of the Moment about Mitt Romney's address to the NRA today. So we googled for a while and were unable to actually find any pictures of Mitt Romney holding a real gun.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/101721867

We did find one old black-and-white picture of him pretending to shoot himself with a toy gun. But alas, no pictures of Romney holding a real gun. This from a man who claims to hunt and own guns.

So... here's your challenge. Can anyone find a picture of the well-known firearms enthusiast Mitt Romney holding a gun? (If he held one at his NRA appearance today, that doesn't count. Eligible photos must have been taken before today.)

The first person to post a real photo of Mitt Romney holding a gun wins a DU T-Shirt.

Say hello to our new MIR Team!

The job of the Malicious Intruder Removal Team is to ban people who join DU with the intent to disrupt. MIR Team members are volunteers, and they serve for a three-month term. During each term, we try to have half new members and half returning members.

If you are a member of the MIR Team, you should have access to the access-restricted Malicious Intruder Removal Forum. It should appear as a red folder on your Forums & Groups page, and in the left column of any page (if you view DU in "Standard" mode).

Thank you to everyone who volunteered!

THE MIR TEAM

NEW THIS TERM

boston bean
Broderick
dixiegrrrrl
DURHAM D
gkhouston
LeftishBrit
Lone_Star_Dem
MaineDem
pacalo
PassingFair
Paulie
pinto
Ruby the Liberal
Scout
ScreamingMeemie
tjwmason
UrbScotty
Vincardog
Violet_Crumble
yardwork

RETURNING FROM THE PREVIOUS TERM

cbayer
cyberswede
Douglas Carpenter
greatauntoftriplets
greyl
hootinholler
Jazzgirl
La Lioness Priyanka
maddezmom
mopinko
Morning Dew
msanthrope
NRaleighLiberal
OKNancy
one_voice
ornotna
Stinky The Clown
TBF
uppityperson
WhollyHeretic
William769


RETIRING MEMBERS

cliffordu
denverbill
Grateful for Hope
Ian David
katsy
Luciferous
Lyric
madaboutharry
Matariki
ncrainbowgrrl
patrice
PeaceNikki
ProfessionalLeftist
Renew Deal
Robb
rucky
Terra Alta
The empressof all
TrogL
Viva_La_Revolution
WheelWalker

Hey, Democratic Underground! Thom Hartmann called you out!

From the DU Video forum: "Democratic Underground Readers are Wrong on SCOTUS"



http://www.democraticunderground.com/101719114

New DU Group: History of Feminism

History of Feminism

Gender & Orientation > History of Feminism

The History of Feminism group serves as a safe haven to discuss, and learn the history of feminism. Apply the lessons of historical and modern day feminist struggles to current issues and events that impact women. This group will also serve as safe haven for women (and supporters of feminism) to openly and honestly discuss and learn how the patriarchy affects women individually and collectively.

The "Cool" section is back on the DU Homepage

A number of people have asked that the "Cool" section be returned to the DU Homepage, and we have decided to bring it back!

The "Cool" section highlights interesting discussion threads from the DU Groups and the DU Lounge, selected by the DU Administrators. They are usually (but not always) non-political.

To see it, go to the DU Homepage, and scroll down the page. The cool section appears under the sub-head "COOL". It is in the second column from the left (the column with the Pic of the Moment and Trending Now at the top).

http://www.democraticunderground.com

Skinner
DU Admin

We have made some changes to the DU Homepage

It's been three months since we launched our comprehensive overhaul of the site. One of the things that we changed was our homepage. But over time the admins decided that we needed to revisit the homepage and make some changes in order to make it fresher and more compelling. The updated homepage is now online:

http://www.democraticunderground.com

One of the driving principles of our comprehensive overhaul has been to give greater control of the site (including its content and its standards) to our members. But the homepage we created last December went in the opposite direction, giving greater control to the administrators to determine what appears there. This was a mistake which did not leverage our community's greatest strength: Our members. Our new homepage is an attempt to remedy this error. We believe this new homepage will much more interesting and useful than before.

The DU Administrators are working hard behind the scenes to make this community the best it can be. The next items on our agenda: Polls, Advanced Search, Spell Check, and improvements to the DU Journals.

Thank you for being a part of this community.

Skinner
DU Admin

Showing off our weekend projects.

Hello, DU Gardening group. This is my first post in the group, as I am new to gardening.

My family and I spent the weekend creating a new garden. I think it it turned out to be pretty good, so I wanted to post here in the DU Gardening group to show off all of our hard work from this weekend.

Here is our raised bed, approximately 11 feet x 3.5 feet. The sides of the bed are made from old roof slates.



And here is the salad table I built. Instructions are here. My boys helped paint it.



We haven't actually planted anything yet. I think that'll be next week's project.
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