Elizabeth Warren SLAMS Hillary Clinton With Most Damaging Evidence To Date

[leftcoastmountains]

[silverweb]

1. K&R

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]Watch, listen, and learn.

[arikara]

2. It is a very good illustration of how she morphed

I think she really did used to care about the people until money and power became more important.

[loyalsister]

46. I have been thinking the same thing

I am seeing more and more reasons why she would avoid the "putting families first" candidate forum. Bernie and O'Malley have both confirmed for this January 9 event. Clinton was invited but has not confirmed. I doubt she will since it is unscripted and sponsored by grassroots activists.

[7962]

52. "unscripted" also means "I'm not coming" to Hillary.

I've been amazed to see Sanders go on any TV show that asks him; even O'Reilly on Fox. And that was a LIVE appearance. O'Malley has done the same, although I havent seen him as much.
Hillary wont even do "Morning Joe"
I guess since she's in the lead she thinks she doesnt have to do anything she doesnt want to

[loyalsister]

56. Sanders believes what he's saying

People get tripped up when they are not so sure about what they are saying or if they are spinning. It's easier to remember the truth.
I am pretty sure there will be a BLM presence at the event, as well. She absolutely cannot handle herself when people put her on the spot.

[bvf]

57. "Sanders believes what he's saying"

This distillation elegantly sums up his appeal.

Beautifully put!

[bjobotts]

59. Sanders also said to Clinton "you don't tell Wall street

to quit it...you pass laws forcing them to quit it"

[jonno99]

78. Holy shoot - you're at the ultimate evil post count: 6,666

[7962]

84. Well I've fixed it! Thanks!

[Art_from_Ark]

51. I think that might have started around 1976,

when she was a corporate lawyer in Arkansas who started rubbing elbows with the state's richest players, eventually including people like Sam Walton, Don Tyson and Jackson Stephens.

[mdbl]

64. Agreed!

I remember the First Lady Hillary Clinton and she was a lot different. Since those days she has matured into the same politician that we keep trying to replace in the House and the Senate. If she makes it to the white house, all we can hope is that she betrays the big money that put her there. Otherwise, we get the shaft again.

[Dustlawyer]

67. Absolutely! Why is this so difficult for people to admit or even understand?

You have big money who comes to the candidates and says, "We really want this...., or we don't want that..., and we have a lot of money to give to your campaign, or we can give it to your opponent if you choose not to support us." Head up his bought off ass Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts cannot see the Quid Pro Quo, but everyone else can!

How can we allow this to go on? This is how our government, all three branches, is controlled by the corporate and the super wealthy. This is the root problem of our time. It is why we have no real effort behind Climate Change, why public schools are so bad, why we stay at war and the Pentagon cannot be audited, why we have hyper partisanship, why we have media and banking oligopolies...

Enough is enough... Feel the Bern!!!

[pangaia]

74. There is no way I will vote for Hillary Clinton, I have always thought.

Fortunately, even if she DOES win the primary, a BIG if, I live in NY so I won't have to even hold my nose and vote for her in the GE.

I am 72, just recently semi-retired, have a modest SS income, no pension, a modest retirement account, and must keep working part time.

I am NOT "poor." But, if I live more than another 10 years or so, I am in trouble.

Yesterday I thought about this whole money thing. And I realized.. if somebody came knocking on my door and offered me $500,000 to vote for her in the general, I am embarrassed to say, I would probably take it.

Interesting, isn't it.

[haikugal]

77. I don't know...

My Aunt in Arkansas, who was a teacher, warned me about the Clintons back in 1987...I think they are what they are.

[CharlotteVale]

3. That is the #1 reason why I'll never support Clinton.

[ViseGrip]

8. Ditto!

[Betty Karlson]

41. Really? This one ranks # 3 or # 4 for me.

But never mind: you are entitled to your own ranking preferences. No one forces you to give priority to voting the wrong way on matters of war and peace, never changing a position unless a poll / focus group says it's safe to do so, and / or being a follower, not a leader.

[CharlotteVale]

42. Yep. Because it so perfectly illustrates whose side she's on. And, it was

even before she voted for war so by the time she did that I couldn't have been more against her than I already was, i.e., totally.

[Betty Karlson]

62. I see. Thanks for explaining that.

For me, my eyes weren't truly opened until the moment she chose to not really but sort of triangulatedly come out against the TPP. I will never trust her.

[Fuddnik]

4. Kickand Rec!

Wall Street regulates Congress.

Truer words were never spoken.

[SoLeftIAmRight]

5. Mark Udall - lost me and enough others to get beat in Colorado

this vote is one that I never forgave

[Duval]

6. "Cut it Out". Sure, they really listened to her. Has anyone noticed

how stocks are beginning to dive, and the S&P is getting lower? Are we in for another Crash, as Thom Hartmann predicted(The Crash of 2016)?

I hope many will see/hear this and gain a little insight. Important post, leftcoastmountains. Thanks!

[chervilant]

10. Our global economy is

a crumbling edifice. The hot spots--Greece, Spain, Brazil, Russia, Argentina, Ecuador, et al.--have been or are being pressured to privatize and sell their most valuable assets to the World Bank (e.g., the minuscule number of corporate megalomaniacs, the vile psychopaths whose hubris knows no bounds), and this may keep the whole house of cards from blowing apart for a little while.

However, I agree with Born, Stiglitz, Wolff, Palast, and countless others who've warned that the Band-Aid approaches of those who've usurped our media, our politics, AND our global economy will only delay the inevitable.

[Enthusiast]

26. That is beautiful!

[chervilant]

66. The funny thing is,

I used to get blasted for saying this, and for posting a cumulative list of events I've witnessed during my brief stint on this planet that portend our species' inevitable disintegration.

Also, as a social scientist, I did research that led me to conclude that the S&Ls would go belly up in the mid 80s (several of my colleagues apologized for belittling me after that crash, when they were jobless), and I told anyone who would listen that the sub-primes were a big threat, and look what happened then. I firmly believe that the evidence is there if we but look for it.

If you have not already done so, look up Brooksley Born, and see how she was vilified and eliminated by Uncle Miltie's minions from her government post over derivatives. The derivatives market is yet another reason our global economy is shaking like a big bowl of jello.

[Enthusiast]

68. Thank you for reminding me about Brooksley Born.

[chervilant]

69. Have you noticed

how few people can name the major "players" in our increasingly dysfunctional global economy? Yet, the same armchair pundits can tell you every detail of the lives of the Kardashians.

[Enthusiast]

71. The Kardashians, lol.

[jonno99]

79. Yep - sigh...nt

[Unknown Beatle]

30. I truly believe that a crash is coming

sometime in 2016. There's a pattern that has been around for decades and it happens in other countries as well. When financial meltdowns happens to other individual countries, such as Mexico, the US hardly feels it, but when it happens in the US, the whole world feels it. But I digress.

The pattern involves a sitting president about to exit due to an election and then the shit hits the fan. In Mexico, a president can only serve six years and that's it, one six year term. When Salinas de Gortari was about to leave office, the country experienced one of the worst economic disasters that ever hit the country. People with house mortgages had to pay interest on the interest plus their payment to keep the house, and the interest was more than the house payment. As you can probably guess, hundreds of thousands of people across Mexico lost their homes. Inflation was so bad that in less than a year, the peso went from 12.50 to the dollar to 2500 pesos to the dollar.

Back to the US. Wall St. is gambling with our money and in December 2007, the start of the Great Recession, thirteen months before Bush left.

And now, with Wall St. up to the same shenanigans as before, the Crash of 2016 is coming.

[davidpdx]

53. Don't forget the student loan bubble as well

$1.2 billion and counting. That is a big danger.

[PyaarRevolution]

55. What do you expect?

All the countries colonized by every nation except Britain have been epic failures. Oh sure, our interference in South America hasn't helped but as a rule none of those countries really believed in creating infrastructure where they colonized. Instead, it was all about the sucking sound of wealth transference to the motherland as it were. No centers of higher learning were funded for the most part. With France it was about you being to pay for transportation from whatever colony and they would hook you up with college in France. By that token only a select few can afford a higher education.
Mexico is an oligarchy plain and simple. 40 families rule that country and I've heard they're in bed with the drug cartel as well. My point being is when you have an oligarchy that pushes to have a virtually non-existent middle class you don't have a strong, stable economy. When you couple this with the fact they eat up that Free Trade nonsense that the WTO peddles, race to the bottom, everyone remaining in that middle class takes it on the chin or some other nation even worse than they are.
The one compliment I can't give enough to Central and South America is that while a lot of people may be poor down there they're much more active and conscious in regards to their food, in terms of concerns for GMO's.

[Marty McGraw]

75. isn't it odd

That all the time the wealth cozy themselves away from the scary wild world, the worst of the worst eventually infiltrates into their 'safe' enclave and chews their very souls down to the bone.

Now they must rub elbow with the cartels.

God forbid they would ever start by just doing the right thing for society in whole. Same 'ol history repeating over and over. Really Sad

[chervilant]

70. Actually, I thought it was coming in October,

but I guess the corporate oligarchy found ways to keep it from blowing apart.

[Marty McGraw]

76. perhaps from

speculation from the newly de-legislated embargo of US Oil exports amongst other sham spit & duct tape to hold it together a little longer.

dunno

[jonno99]

80. I hope you're wrong - I fear you're right...nt

[Old Codger]

47. Might be

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[Duckfan]

60. I've heard the same warning from Thom Hartmann as well and it concerns me.

The way Thom describes it gives me chills. So who wins if there is a crash before/during the primaries? Bernie or Hillary?

[dragonlady]

7. Look at Bernie when she says what she told Wall Street

He couldn't help laughing. Neither could we.

[senz]

12. He is smart and wise. He sees things very clearly.

[NJCher]

24. that was funny; I loved it

It's at the 3:41 mark.

On another topic, Elizabeth Warren can really tell a story. She's got it all in terms of being a communicator: knows when to raise and lower the voice, timing, eye contact, gestures, and clear diction.


Cher

[dragonlady]

36. You are so right

Professor Warren's classes must have been among the most popular at Harvard Law School.

[senz]

9. Hillary's followers thought she was oh so FABULOUS! in that debate.

They gushed and gushed and pledged their souls all over again. Oooo, she was wonderful!! She won! She won!

I used to think political blindness existed only among Fox News viewers.

[Fed up in NJ]

17. Speaking of?

Where are all the Hillary supporters on this thread? To busy claiming how dishonest Bernie is on another thread? Hello? Hill-shrills.... where are you?!?!

[senz]

20. This is the Bernie Group -- most of them have gotten themselves banned from this group.

Go out to General Discussion: Primaries (GD-P), find the other version of this thread and give it a kick (make a comment) and recommend it.

[senz]

11. Elizabeth Warren knows Hillary will always sell out the American people.

She as much as admits it in this video. But for the sake of her (unequivocally important) position in the Senate and in American politics at this time in history, she has to be very careful not to alienate the Clintons.

I wouldn't be surprised if she's already explained this to Bernie who, as a seasoned, savvy politician himself, would understand and not hold it against her.

[senz]

13. Has this excellent video been posted on GD-P?

It really should be.

[leftcoastmountains]

14. Done

[senz]

18. Thank you!

Need to be seen.

But right now the other side is k & r'ing the most insulting anti-Bernie threads.

I wish some of our folks would come over from JPR once in a while. We still need them here.

Reason: many voters lurk on DU and are affected by what they see.

[haikugal]

81. More than a few of us here Senz!

[senz]

83. Thank goodness.

I truly believe we need a strong, admirable presence in the months leading up to the convention.

Even if we do have to take showers after posting in GD-P

[democrank]

15. Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders

Wish we had a few dozen more just like them.

[libodem]

16. K&R

For the ugly truth.

[NorthCarolina]

19. "She views them as part of her constituency"

That says it all right there.

[Ferd Berfel]

21. THIS IS YOUR RESPONSE TO ANYONE THAT TELLS YOU THAT CLINTON WILL NOT BE INFLUANCED BY

her Wall Street transnational Corporate puppet masters. Done and Done


Well.....so much for Warren as VP LOL

[Owl]

22. K&R

[senz]

23. BERNIE FOLKS -- Please K & R this on GD-P! Need to be seen there!

[Enthusiast]

25. I have to recommend this and kick it like a field goal kicker.

How much do we love Elizabeth Warren?!

The suggestion that campaign donations do not influence the office holder is absurd in the extreme.

[azmom]

27. Kick

[Rafale]

28. Spot On

The word needs to get out in the open.

[antigop]

29. Wall Street regulates Congress. Thank you, Bernie! nt

[polichick]

31. Love that moment when the audio slows and Bernie laughs.

[Paka]

32. K&R

It's as plain as the nose on your face. Another video that needs to be seen again and again and again.

[paleotn]

33. very much rec! (nt)

[nc4bo]

34. It is truly astounding how Camp Hill supporters are attempting to explain the obvious

weaknesses of this candidate.

There she blows, right there, in yer face and they still try to spin yarn out of weeds.

This is a corporate candidate and no friend of the 99%.

UnfreakingREAL.

Just say Hill NO.

[senz]

35. Everyone, please Rec this thread on GD-P.

Hilary supporters are calling it a RW "hit job" and trying to bury it.

It NEEDS your RECs.

[Jack Rabbit]

37. Hillary represents Wall Street

However, she also represents victims of mortgage fraud in New York. What did she do for them?

[AzDar]

38. K & R

[SoapBox]

39. K & R

No thank you to the Corporatist candidate.

The post needs some Rec's in GD-P...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=965951

[SandersDem]

40. I believe that

behind some closed door somewhere Wall Street said, if you back us on this bankruptcy bill, we will back you all the way to the White House. And they are.

In the years that have past, the middle class is virtually disappearing in America. When it does, will Wall Street groove on the rubble or back slavery?

[peacebird]

43. Tweeted! Thanks for posting this!

Share widely, folks!

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

44. K&R

[INdemo]

45. Theres more

[leftcoastmountains]

48. Thanks

[jalan48]

49. Money, money, money.

[bhikkhu]

50. It took some digging to find history on this, as my memory isn't so good

Searching "US bankruptcy law history", oddly enough, came up with various write-ups with no mention of anything happening after 1978. But searching "GW bush bankruptcy" found an article where he signed the bill into law in 2005, then led to other good informative pieces.

I don't know if the law has had a dire impact on people in general, though it probably made the great recession worse for many. It did, apparently, backfire for the credit card issuers who were the primary lobbyists. Believing that they would see fewer credit defaults they lent like drunken sailors, only to see defaults skyrocket within a few years. I remember the days when it was so easy and normal to get a stack of easy-qualifying credit card offers, and for people to regularly run up debts that way. Looking at the numbers, credit card debt peaked in 2008, and has declined steadily since then to the lowest level in 15 years or so (?w=1024&h=576). Not the kind of growth model the industry was looking for, and they have to make up for it by charging higher fees and worse penalties, which only makes them more disliked and distrusted than they already were.

(of course, student debt seems to be the real story, and the real problem nowadays)

[davidpdx]

54. Egads, the student loan one is bad

I'm responsible for $100 k plus of that.

[INdemo]

58. This clip gives us an idea about just how bad

the Keystone Pipeline will be for our environment.
This is an old clip but still Hillary Clinton has danced around this issue while she was SOS and while she has been a Presidential
Candidate. Her statement about the Keystone issue remains the same "she has repeatedly said "she hasn't seen the final draft or proposal of the TAR Sands pipeline yet".
On the other hand Bernie Sanders stance on this issue is firm.."NO" to the Keystone Pipeline, its that simple.

http://democratsforprogress.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=5917

[Live and Learn]

61. K&R nt

[Stevepol]

63. Difference between Hillary and Elizabeth?

Night and day. I would vote for Elizabeth in a nanosecond and never regret it. Now, I'm hoping and praying I don't have to vote for Hillary. She has the role down perfectly, knows just how to inflect and nuance so that she can do what her financial advisers would have her do in the end. She'll look and sound good no matter what, but she won't get anything much done, and I know at some point, when I'm least expecting it, she is going to go off the tracks and get us into a deeper involvement in some ME country or just start some new war based on pride and false patriotism.

She'd be better than Trump I'm sure or any of the clowns on the other side and she has a ton of good personal qualities, so like everybody else, I'll be pulling for her to stand up to the idiots in Congress and in the country when they start pushing for what is obviously wrong-headed and destructive, but I know what will happen as sure as 2 + 2 = 4.

[raouldukelives]

65. K&R Some believe in Democracy for all, some in Wall St. nt

[panader0]

72. Kick and rec.

[sulphurdunn]

73. You dance with the ones who brung ya.

[onwardsand upwards]

82. Would Elizabeth Warren be willing to repeat these words now?

Thanks for posting this -- it's very illuminating.

As politicians pass over the threshold of power, they shed their principles like Hawking radiation...