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Wed Jun 15, 2016, 11:40 AM

How to become a star-member without paying Skinner a single dime!

This discussion thread was locked by Autumn (a host of the Bernie Sanders group).

Leave. Go to another website that isn't going to enforce pay-to-play rules on you.

Let's be clear about something: Skinner is not, and will never be, who makes this community what it is. Not him nor any other admin. This site continues to exists solely because of the sheer volume of content brought here and created and consumed by it's members.

Whether you knew it or not, all of you are content creators... and now, you're going to be charged for the "privilege" of having a say in the community YOU established.

Anyone can throw a website together (it costs very little... I have several of my own)... and anyone can arbitrarily determine whatever rules they want in their own personal little fiefdom... and set whatever charges and fees they want... but without YOU, this site is nothing.

Over the last 15 years, this site was THE Democratic Underground. With the transition to pay-to-play on key community-determining mechanics of the site, it is truly embracing the most corrosive aspects of what is wrong with politics... it is reduced to a fee-based service.

On that note, this will be my last OP on this site. I may respond to replies... though, after today, I'm done with DU.

If you're looking to find me, I'll be at http://jackpineradicals.org/content.php

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Response to Bubzer (Original post)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 11:43 AM

1. I never minded chipping in a few dollars.

 

The servers do cost money. I will be leaving because I cannot, in all good conscience, support Hillary.

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Response to djean111 (Reply #1)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 12:12 PM

5. They do... though not much.

You can rent server space very cheaply these days.

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Response to Bubzer (Original post)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 11:59 AM

2. My new account has been created elsewhere

And since you cannot actually delete your account here, I guess we're all here forever. Letting my account go dormant should be a good indicator to the admins to delete it. I really don't care after today.

Oh well, time to move on with the progressive group.

Ba Bye.

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Response to Bubzer (Original post)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 12:07 PM

3. Did I miss something? We'll have to donate in order to use this site?

 

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Response to TheProgressive (Reply #3)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 12:10 PM

4. Not quite. You'll have to donate in order to be able to participate in the jury process.

Oh, and you'll need to have been here at least a year... but you're good on the time front.

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Response to Bubzer (Reply #4)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 12:21 PM

8. Thanks for this info...

 

There really won't be any reason to post or read here (DU in general that is)...

I liked DU because of the sane democratic people here discussing important issues. Now
with Clinton and her Third Way/republican/oligarch positions and her supporters here, how can
one had a sane intelligent conversation?

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Response to TheProgressive (Reply #8)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 12:46 PM

11. Sane, intelligent conversations are coming to an end here n/t

 

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Response to TheProgressive (Reply #8)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 12:49 PM

13. So frustrating to have potentially interesting conversations disintegrate in no time flat...

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Response to Bubzer (Original post)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 12:17 PM

6. I pay DU to not subject me to what would otherwise be a mind numbing assult of advertising.

Yes, I could employ my adblocker to do that job but I don't mind paying for content on the Internet without advertising if it is easy to do so and is at a reasonable cost.

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Response to Bubzer (Original post)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 12:20 PM

7. Its a micro version of Citizens United. Very DNC.

 

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Response to Katashi_itto (Reply #7)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 12:29 PM

9. True Dat! n/t

 

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Response to Bubzer (Original post)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 12:44 PM

10. Not just websites: the Democratic party itself is 100% pay-to-play now.

 

If you can't afford to pay, then you are just a vote to exploit and pander to. Nothing more.

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Response to Bubzer (Original post)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 12:46 PM

12. you are complaining about contributing?

why shouldn't you contribute to the cost of running this site. This is not slapped together website, it is well thought out and supplies many features for users.
I am surprised at the number of regular users who do not bother to make any donation and I don't get your reasoning. How many websites have you set up and monitor and upgrade so anyone can use it for free? Are the admins supposed to be volunteers for you?

Wow - talk about entitlement.

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