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Robbins

(5,066 posts)
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 02:42 PM Jul 2015

Be calm

The hillary supporters love to cite national and post Iowa and NH polls.but,stay strong.

Bernie is In double digits In Washington state,michigan,NJ,and Florida.and he really hasn't been there yet.

Iowa and NH will change the race.Because it always does.After Kerry won both iowa and NH the race was basically over.I was
supporting dean so i know what i am talking about.

After Obama won Iowa and Hillary won NH.Terry Mcculiffe was on Tv saying Hillary was ahead in 21 of next 23 states.Starting with
SC there was string of obama victories.Super tuesday which was suspose to end race for Hillary had a split.

The more people see of bernie more they like him.iowa and NH polls prove this.People have been feed she is inevitable line.Once
Bernie wins both iowa and NH the she is inevitable line will collapse like a house of cards.

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Be calm (Original Post) Robbins Jul 2015 OP
+1 n/t Admiral Loinpresser Jul 2015 #1
the cool thing is, Bernie has all the time in the world.... virtualobserver Jul 2015 #2
Polls this far out are unreliable. merrily Jul 2015 #3
Yep Robbins Jul 2015 #4
Yup! SoapBox Jul 2015 #8
Especially national polls. The candidates are campaigning in the early primary states and those jwirr Jul 2015 #12
Yes! BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #5
Calm, yes... daleanime Jul 2015 #6
if anyone needs to be bolstered, just listen to Bernie passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #7
well when people start to realize heaven05 Jul 2015 #9
Absolutely RichVRichV Jul 2015 #11
Plus, O'Malley and Webb will cut more into Hillary's supporters than those who will support 1monster Jul 2015 #10
 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
2. the cool thing is, Bernie has all the time in the world....
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 02:48 PM
Jul 2015

and his momentum is increasing.


Hillary is the best known candidate ever.

Nowhere to go but down, because nothing she says will surprise anyone.

Her only option is to attack.

as Bernie continues to rise, we will see that happen.

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
4. Yep
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 02:58 PM
Jul 2015

it seems some have amnesia about 2004 and 2008.

The memo is already here by hillary supporters Iowa and NH shouldn't matter since they are mostly white states.

Obama won Iowa in 2008 and that put him on path to nomination.Hillary won NH which slowed down Obama till SC.If Hillary can't repeat 2008 In NH that should be warning to them.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
12. Especially national polls. The candidates are campaigning in the early primary states and those
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 05:43 PM
Jul 2015

polls are not even totally reliable because people can and do change their mind with more exposure to the candidate. The Iowa poll has a problem in that it is a caucus state. Participants do not just go to the polls and vote they actually talk about the candidates to each other at caucus meetings. Many make the decision at the last minute.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
5. Yes!
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 03:34 PM
Jul 2015

Once the meme of "he can't win" is shattered, more and more people will vote for the candidate which represents them. Once they understand that the "beating the Republican machine" is a farce, because ANY Democrat can beat ANY Republican and that beating the most formidable candidate in the entire race, Hillary Clinton, PROVES he can win, then the fence sitters will finally come on board.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
7. if anyone needs to be bolstered, just listen to Bernie
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 03:55 PM
Jul 2015

He has plenty of confidence, because he knows his message is right for our times.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
9. well when people start to realize
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 04:32 PM
Jul 2015

that H & B represent some of the people all the time, which is the american political way for centuries and some of the people none of the time or only when it is politically expedient, meaning no real concern for the trouble(s) of a large segment of the population, the difference will be stark enough to make other democratic party candidates acceptable, maybe even front runners. This early no one is inevitable, and once the truth(s) are seen about who cares for whom, well we'll see then, won't we? Calm as I can be, I am.

RichVRichV

(885 posts)
11. Absolutely
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 05:26 PM
Jul 2015

O'Malley or someone else may jump up and knock Bernie or Hilary out. And we'll all sit here looking dumb founded. Primary season is chaotic and fun, especially 6 months out.

1monster

(11,012 posts)
10. Plus, O'Malley and Webb will cut more into Hillary's supporters than those who will support
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 05:09 PM
Jul 2015

Bernie...

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