Bernie Sanders
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A little pep talk this morning. We need it.
Despite Bernie Sanders losing all 5 states in last nights primary contests, hes within striking distance of Hillary Clinton. And if Sanders wins the upcoming Western primaries, he could erase Clintons lead and become the new front-runner.
At the end of the night, Hillary Clinton only increased her delegate lead by 57, leaving Sanders plenty of room to eliminate her advantage in the 24 remaining states. A candidate needs 2,383 delegates to clinch the Democratic nomination, and as of March 16, Clinton only has 1,094 delegates to Sanders 774. All of the states most favorable to Clinton have already voted, and the states most favorable to Sanders are still on the calendar. If anyone should be worried about their chances at the nomination waning over time, its Hillary Clinton.
http://usuncut.com/politics/bernie-sanders-worst-states-behind/
woodsprite
(11,911 posts)I certainly agree with the last line of the quote. It's very telling that most of what we're hearing lately is a call for Bernie to drop out of the race.
To which I say: NOT A CHANCE!!!
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)cant wait for the bernie friendly ststes to get their chance....a few more 60/40 caucus wins, and its basically a tied ball game
Jenny_92808
(1,342 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)farleftlib
(2,125 posts)but it's only halftime.
So let's get back in the game and win it for Bernie.
K & R
thereismore
(13,326 posts)Jenny_92808
(1,342 posts)Go Bernie!
thereismore
(13,326 posts)run out of steam and most importantly, donors, at this point. Bernie needs us now. Primary 2.0 has just begun.
FighttheFuture
(1,313 posts)rgbecker
(4,826 posts)Let's give every Democrat a chance to weigh in. Or why bother with democracy.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)til November and beyond!
SheenaR
(2,052 posts)but she gained more than 57...
Jarqui
(10,123 posts)But when I looked a week ago her going +100 was around his best possible case and I doubted he could do it. Seemed really slim.
Might sound a little crazy but compared to where the polls were a week or two ago, he did really well.
PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)under 100
67 +14 +1 -1 = 81. wow some massive win zzz Missouri hasn't been CALLED yet. yep even on Huffpo Neither Trump or Clinton has official won Missouri yet. 2 precincts haven't been counted yet for Dems.
PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)don't look at me NYT has her winning 1300 votes in MO, but Bernie has one more delegate than she does. Did he win an area that had more delegates ie is it a NH situation but reversed? a - 1 negates her win in ILL Talk about super split they keep saying the Republican nomination is gonna be a mess ha. I haven't seen things this split since um well 2008 except this time it doesn't really have anything to do with politics but trust , race and sex (ignore Donald and Bernie somehow not being a Jew by not believing in God. Thats silly .. So how does that work Jesus doesn't believe in God wow thats a bombshell X_X
bernbabe
(370 posts)Notice that does not add up to 2000+, which is how many delegates have been voted for. The delegates have not be fully allocated yet.
That said, I'm not giving up. Tell everyone to vote for Bernie still!
PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)karynnj
(59,501 posts)far more likely to back HRC.
I agree that it is not "mathematically" impossible, but the chance of Bernie winning was low before yesterday. Getting 54% of all remaining states is NOT easy. Now, the percent needed is higher. What you linked to is an incredibly - probably unjustifiably optimistic view. As of yesterday, all HRC had to do was get an average of 45% of the remaining delegates -- now she wins with an even lower percent. Barring any unforeseen MAJOR events - which are incredibly unlikely, it is hard to believe that HRC will not easily amass the needed delegates.
What Bernie has done is to show that there is a hunger for a more populist Democrat. It is never possible to prove what would have happened with a path not taken, but I really wonder what would have happened had Elizabeth Warren or some other populist, but more mainstream person than Bernie had run. Would they have generated the excitement of Bernie? Would they also have won some who felt Bernie was too much an outsider? In the case of Warren, would having the chance to elect a woman without it being HRC have mattered? None of that can ever by really answered. What is already known is that Sanders caused Clinton to shift her positions to the left on many many issues. It also moved her from distancing herself from Obama - as she did with her book and the 2014 interviews around its release to wrapping herself with Obama and all the accomplishments of his administration.
Bernie, speaking in Essex Junction, on SuperTuesday, told Vermonters how touched he was by their overwhelming support -- and he spoke of doing far better than anyone expected when they joined him "on the lake" last May. Bernie really did lead a needed discussion on income inequality, that likely would not have happened without him -- or at least it would not have had the prominence it did. He has accomplished a huge amount ... and I would love it if he completely exceeds all expectations going forward and becomes the nominee, but it is not intellectually honest to suggest that it is Hillary who should be worried about her chances waning. Sanders DID however make her run far different from that of Al Gore in 2000 - when he was the establishment nominee whose turn it was.
bernbabe
(370 posts)that Hillary has actually moved to the left. Like a typical politician she is simply saying what she thinks she needs to say to get the nomination.
liberal from boston
(856 posts)I agree bern babe. Saturday's SNL video of Hillary morphing into Bernie was hilarious but I remember Hillary mocking healthcare for all & at rallies stating that Bernie was dismantling Obamacare when the truth is he was expanding into Medicare for all. Some Media did call her out.
2banon
(7,321 posts)But anyone who actually believes once she's crowned that we're going to see an actual "shift to the left" in terms of policy (or even rhetorick for that matter) hasn't been paying attention for the past 2 and half decades.
GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)whatever she thinks will get her more votes.
2banon
(7,321 posts)I'd say her timing needs more work, but apparently her supporters are as tone deaf as she is.
karynnj
(59,501 posts)will make her aware that she will need to consider the large percent of people who agreed with his positions. If one believes that her position moves towards what is popular, there is reason to believe that she will keep those positions. Likewise, if you believe that the positions she is standing behind are her real positions, its even better.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)bernbabe
(370 posts)haven't been all that happy.
bjobotts
(9,141 posts)What a great post, Karynnj. I agree with everything you said and wish things could have been different.
Duval
(4,280 posts)lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,349 posts)Thanks for the thread, SHRED.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)A week ago, that would have been an upset.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)KPN
(15,642 posts)We're with you Bernie!
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GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)victory as some kind of fucking head game.
I ignore all of those OPs. I don't even reward them with a view. I am so sick of the transparently Rovian psyop shit coming from camp weathervane.
I already donated to Bernie again late last night and I will continue to donate.
Go Bernie!
Roland99
(53,342 posts)xloadiex
(628 posts)Not being totally defeatist like I've heard all morning.
Has Bernie made any kind of statement? I think it would go a long way to inspire his base. The enthusiasm is lacking on Reddit.
I also just heard about all the people in counties In Illinois unable to register because they were denied and polls running out of dem ballots.
felix_numinous
(5,198 posts)the names you hear are the ones who have made the deals with them.
blackspade
(10,056 posts)Thanks for the pep talk. Much needed.
The "I hate progressives" machine is at full speed over at Camp Weathervane.