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SHRED

(28,136 posts)
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 10:06 AM Mar 2016

Bernie Sanders Had a Phenomenal Night — Here’s Why

A little pep talk this morning. We need it.



Despite Bernie Sanders losing all 5 states in last night’s primary contests, he’s within striking distance of Hillary Clinton. And if Sanders wins the upcoming Western primaries, he could erase Clinton’s lead and become the new front-runner.

At the end of the night, Hillary Clinton only increased her delegate lead by 57, leaving Sanders plenty of room to eliminate her advantage in the 24 remaining states. A candidate needs 2,383 delegates to clinch the Democratic nomination, and as of March 16, Clinton only has 1,094 delegates to Sanders’ 774. All of the states most favorable to Clinton have already voted, and the states most favorable to Sanders are still on the calendar. If anyone should be worried about their chances at the nomination waning over time, it’s Hillary Clinton.


http://usuncut.com/politics/bernie-sanders-worst-states-behind/
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Bernie Sanders Had a Phenomenal Night — Here’s Why (Original Post) SHRED Mar 2016 OP
From your post to God's ear! woodsprite Mar 2016 #1
lets get this party started! restorefreedom Mar 2016 #2
"get this party started" Jenny_92808 Mar 2016 #5
!! nt restorefreedom Mar 2016 #6
It's halftime and we're behind farleftlib Mar 2016 #3
I just donated to Bernie, another $27! thereismore Mar 2016 #4
Me too! Jenny_92808 Mar 2016 #7
The primary was front loaded with former CSA states so that any Hillary's opponent would thereismore Mar 2016 #9
Me three!!! FighttheFuture Mar 2016 #30
24 of 50 states still to vote. rgbecker Mar 2016 #8
This household's supporting Bernie Plucketeer Mar 2016 #10
I'm on board SheenaR Mar 2016 #11
I agree.Closer to +100 Jarqui Mar 2016 #27
I had it a bit more but still PatrynXX Mar 2016 #12
yeah I know - 1??? PatrynXX Mar 2016 #16
The math there is wrong bernbabe Mar 2016 #13
love that gif :) +1 PatrynXX Mar 2016 #17
agreed navarth Mar 2016 #14
NY, NJ, PA have not yet voted and I would guess PA to be like Ohio and NY, NJ include many karynnj Mar 2016 #15
Don't believe for a second bernbabe Mar 2016 #18
Go Bernie liberal from boston Mar 2016 #20
exactly. HRC uses "progressive" rhetoric as the tool she thinks will work, and apparently has. 2banon Mar 2016 #23
She's not in it to serve the public. She's in it to get another feather in her hat. She will say GoneFishin Mar 2016 #31
She "will say" and has said anything she's told we want to hear. 2banon Mar 2016 #39
One hope - the fact that there was so much support for a rather unlikely candidate karynnj Mar 2016 #25
And those 4 years will be watched closeley to confirm if her actions match her words n/t arcane1 Mar 2016 #29
Already did that with Obama bernbabe Mar 2016 #32
My biggest fear with Clinton. Is she all talk and sound bytes? bjobotts Mar 2016 #40
@ KARYNNJ serbbral Mar 2016 #37
Donating to Bernie today! nt Duval Mar 2016 #19
He did and I haz pics. lonestarnot Mar 2016 #21
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #22
He had a good night: he came *this* close to winning a couple of states. Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #24
YAY BERNIE! SammyWinstonJack Mar 2016 #26
Never give an inch! KPN Mar 2016 #28
Yep. The Hillary squad has evidently been given marching orders to make unwarranted claims of GoneFishin Mar 2016 #33
Thank you...let last night get to me. Still plenty of primary road ahead! Roland99 Mar 2016 #34
It great to hear Thom Hartmann xloadiex Mar 2016 #35
And remember who bought the M$M felix_numinous Mar 2016 #36
It's going to be a tough haul..... blackspade Mar 2016 #38

woodsprite

(11,911 posts)
1. From your post to God's ear!
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 10:18 AM
Mar 2016

I certainly agree with the last line of the quote. It's very telling that most of what we're hearing lately is a call for Bernie to drop out of the race.

To which I say: NOT A CHANCE!!!

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
2. lets get this party started!
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 10:48 AM
Mar 2016

cant wait for the bernie friendly ststes to get their chance....a few more 60/40 caucus wins, and its basically a tied ball game

 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
3. It's halftime and we're behind
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 10:53 AM
Mar 2016

but it's only halftime.

So let's get back in the game and win it for Bernie.

K & R

thereismore

(13,326 posts)
9. The primary was front loaded with former CSA states so that any Hillary's opponent would
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 11:07 AM
Mar 2016

run out of steam and most importantly, donors, at this point. Bernie needs us now. Primary 2.0 has just begun.

rgbecker

(4,826 posts)
8. 24 of 50 states still to vote.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 11:06 AM
Mar 2016

Let's give every Democrat a chance to weigh in. Or why bother with democracy.

Jarqui

(10,123 posts)
27. I agree.Closer to +100
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 12:09 PM
Mar 2016

But when I looked a week ago her going +100 was around his best possible case and I doubted he could do it. Seemed really slim.

Might sound a little crazy but compared to where the polls were a week or two ago, he did really well.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
12. I had it a bit more but still
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 11:20 AM
Mar 2016

under 100

67 +14 +1 -1 = 81. wow some massive win zzz Missouri hasn't been CALLED yet. yep even on Huffpo Neither Trump or Clinton has official won Missouri yet. 2 precincts haven't been counted yet for Dems.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
16. yeah I know - 1???
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 11:24 AM
Mar 2016

don't look at me NYT has her winning 1300 votes in MO, but Bernie has one more delegate than she does. Did he win an area that had more delegates ie is it a NH situation but reversed? a - 1 negates her win in ILL Talk about super split they keep saying the Republican nomination is gonna be a mess ha. I haven't seen things this split since um well 2008 except this time it doesn't really have anything to do with politics but trust , race and sex (ignore Donald and Bernie somehow not being a Jew by not believing in God. Thats silly .. So how does that work Jesus doesn't believe in God wow thats a bombshell X_X

bernbabe

(370 posts)
13. The math there is wrong
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 11:21 AM
Mar 2016

Notice that does not add up to 2000+, which is how many delegates have been voted for. The delegates have not be fully allocated yet.

That said, I'm not giving up. Tell everyone to vote for Bernie still!

karynnj

(59,501 posts)
15. NY, NJ, PA have not yet voted and I would guess PA to be like Ohio and NY, NJ include many
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 11:24 AM
Mar 2016

far more likely to back HRC.

I agree that it is not "mathematically" impossible, but the chance of Bernie winning was low before yesterday. Getting 54% of all remaining states is NOT easy. Now, the percent needed is higher. What you linked to is an incredibly - probably unjustifiably optimistic view. As of yesterday, all HRC had to do was get an average of 45% of the remaining delegates -- now she wins with an even lower percent. Barring any unforeseen MAJOR events - which are incredibly unlikely, it is hard to believe that HRC will not easily amass the needed delegates.

What Bernie has done is to show that there is a hunger for a more populist Democrat. It is never possible to prove what would have happened with a path not taken, but I really wonder what would have happened had Elizabeth Warren or some other populist, but more mainstream person than Bernie had run. Would they have generated the excitement of Bernie? Would they also have won some who felt Bernie was too much an outsider? In the case of Warren, would having the chance to elect a woman without it being HRC have mattered? None of that can ever by really answered. What is already known is that Sanders caused Clinton to shift her positions to the left on many many issues. It also moved her from distancing herself from Obama - as she did with her book and the 2014 interviews around its release to wrapping herself with Obama and all the accomplishments of his administration.

Bernie, speaking in Essex Junction, on SuperTuesday, told Vermonters how touched he was by their overwhelming support -- and he spoke of doing far better than anyone expected when they joined him "on the lake" last May. Bernie really did lead a needed discussion on income inequality, that likely would not have happened without him -- or at least it would not have had the prominence it did. He has accomplished a huge amount ... and I would love it if he completely exceeds all expectations going forward and becomes the nominee, but it is not intellectually honest to suggest that it is Hillary who should be worried about her chances waning. Sanders DID however make her run far different from that of Al Gore in 2000 - when he was the establishment nominee whose turn it was.

bernbabe

(370 posts)
18. Don't believe for a second
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 11:30 AM
Mar 2016

that Hillary has actually moved to the left. Like a typical politician she is simply saying what she thinks she needs to say to get the nomination.

20. Go Bernie
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 11:42 AM
Mar 2016

I agree bern babe. Saturday's SNL video of Hillary morphing into Bernie was hilarious but I remember Hillary mocking healthcare for all & at rallies stating that Bernie was dismantling Obamacare when the truth is he was expanding into Medicare for all. Some Media did call her out.
 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
23. exactly. HRC uses "progressive" rhetoric as the tool she thinks will work, and apparently has.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 11:54 AM
Mar 2016

But anyone who actually believes once she's crowned that we're going to see an actual "shift to the left" in terms of policy (or even rhetorick for that matter) hasn't been paying attention for the past 2 and half decades.

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
31. She's not in it to serve the public. She's in it to get another feather in her hat. She will say
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 12:20 PM
Mar 2016

whatever she thinks will get her more votes.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
39. She "will say" and has said anything she's told we want to hear.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 02:09 PM
Mar 2016

I'd say her timing needs more work, but apparently her supporters are as tone deaf as she is.

karynnj

(59,501 posts)
25. One hope - the fact that there was so much support for a rather unlikely candidate
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 11:59 AM
Mar 2016

will make her aware that she will need to consider the large percent of people who agreed with his positions. If one believes that her position moves towards what is popular, there is reason to believe that she will keep those positions. Likewise, if you believe that the positions she is standing behind are her real positions, its even better.

serbbral

(260 posts)
37. @ KARYNNJ
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 01:24 PM
Mar 2016

What a great post, Karynnj. I agree with everything you said and wish things could have been different.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
24. He had a good night: he came *this* close to winning a couple of states.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 11:56 AM
Mar 2016

A week ago, that would have been an upset.

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
33. Yep. The Hillary squad has evidently been given marching orders to make unwarranted claims of
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 12:25 PM
Mar 2016

victory as some kind of fucking head game.

I ignore all of those OPs. I don't even reward them with a view. I am so sick of the transparently Rovian psyop shit coming from camp weathervane.

I already donated to Bernie again late last night and I will continue to donate.

Go Bernie!

xloadiex

(628 posts)
35. It great to hear Thom Hartmann
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 12:53 PM
Mar 2016

Not being totally defeatist like I've heard all morning.

Has Bernie made any kind of statement? I think it would go a long way to inspire his base. The enthusiasm is lacking on Reddit.

I also just heard about all the people in counties In Illinois unable to register because they were denied and polls running out of dem ballots.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
38. It's going to be a tough haul.....
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 01:28 PM
Mar 2016

Thanks for the pep talk. Much needed.
The "I hate progressives" machine is at full speed over at Camp Weathervane.

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