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billh58

(6,635 posts)
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 09:48 PM Jan 2017

The new mantra from

the Trump worshiping right-wing gun extremists is: "The only permit I need for a gun is the Second Amendment." From an article published in Smart Gun Laws:

Heller was unquestionably a radical decision, overturning the Court’s previous ruling that the Second Amendment was tied to state militia service. For almost seventy years, lower federal and state courts nationwide had relied on that pronouncement to reject hundreds of Second Amendment challenges.

The Heller decision immediately drew strong criticism from a wide array of legal scholars, historians, advocates and legislators, including a particularly scathing rebuke from respected conservative judge Richard Posner, who noted that, “The only certain effect of the Heller decision will be to increase litigation over gun ownership.”

In fact, new litigation started almost immediately. The day that Heller was announced, plaintiffs filed a lawsuit challenging the City of Chicago’s handgun ban, with a second suit filed the next day. Other suits emerged soon after, escalating once the Supreme Court confirmed that the Second Amendment also applied to state and local laws in 2010’s McDonald v. City of Chicago decision. After that case, the number of lawsuits challenging gun laws nationwide skyrocketed.

Thankfully, despite the explosion of litigation, courts across the country have rejected the overwhelming majority of Second Amendment challenges initiated since Heller. Gun rights advocates and criminal defendants across the country have sought to expand the Second Amendment to invalidate almost every gun law on the books today. In siding with us and the majority of Americans who support sensible gun laws, courts are finding that smart laws aren’t just constitutional—they’re also critical to keeping our communities safe from gun violence.

http://smartgunlaws.org/gun-laws/the-second-amendment/second-amendment-basics/


There is absolutely nothing in the US Constitution that can not be regulated -- especially the ownership and public carry of a lethal weapon. No "right" is absolute, and never has been for good reason. This is exactly why we have the judicial branch of government to interpret and affirm, deny, or modify government regulations.

If the right-wing gun lobby managed to impose their twisted constitutional interpretations on our society, fascism and tyranny would prevail. That is exactly what Comrade Trump and his imbecilic followers want to happen in this country built by generations of patriotic Democratic citizens, and we will not allow it under any circumstances.
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The new mantra from (Original Post) billh58 Jan 2017 OP
Recommended. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #1
Too true, and for those billh58 Jan 2017 #2
I love newest gunner fantasy, national reciprocity - supported by some white wingers in Congress. Hoyt Jan 2017 #3
This is so typical of the billh58 Jan 2017 #4

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
1. Recommended.
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 09:55 PM
Jan 2017

And:

Heller was unquestionably a radical decision, overturning the Court’s previous ruling that the Second Amendment was tied to state militia service. For almost seventy years, lower federal and state courts nationwide had relied on that pronouncement to reject hundreds of Second Amendment challenges.


But the absolute refusal to abide by stare decis in the Heller case, as well as Scalia deleting 40% of the Amendment to find his original intent is denied by many in the gun crowd.

billh58

(6,635 posts)
2. Too true, and for those
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 09:58 PM
Jan 2017

who have forgotten, it was the very same 5-4 right-wing SCOTUS cabal that gave us Citizens United.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
3. I love newest gunner fantasy, national reciprocity - supported by some white wingers in Congress.
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 10:11 PM
Jan 2017

Any ole George Zimmerman or Michael Dunn should be able to strap their guns on in NYC, Washington, Chicago, San Francisco, etc., according the white wing gun crowd.

billh58

(6,635 posts)
4. This is so typical of the
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 10:21 PM
Jan 2017

extremist NRA/ALEC gun fanatics. They want to impose their sick fantasies on people in many other jurisdictions who have already voted, and decided that they do not want armed and dangerous gun nuts walking their streets.

It is proven by study after study that states with strong gun laws have lower incidents of gun violence. The ammosexuals want to change that and prove their "bravery" by terrorizing their fellow citizens nationwide.

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