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Fri Oct 14, 2016, 01:11 PM

Misogyny Is Back. Did It Ever Go Away?

On the night of Saturday, Sept. 10, between the hours of about 8 and 11, six women, each of them walking in Midtown Manhattan, were approached by a group of young men who sought to light them on fire. Although the attacks were mercifully unsuccessful — no one was injured — one woman, standing at the intersection of Fifth Avenue and East 54th Street had her skirt set aflame, while another, walking past a Valentino store, the police reported, felt something warm on her left arm, only to realize that her blouse was on fire. Six days later, a 14-year old boy was taken into custody, and charged with attempted assault and harassment. Given that everyone targeted for conflagration was female, the police have considered these hate crimes.

That four of the five encounters occurred on a stretch of Fifth Avenue just outside Trump Tower may bear no actual relationship to our current political misfortunes. For whatever it has done and failed to do, the presidential candidacy of Donald J. Trump has revived a national discussion of misogyny, which, as a word, an idea and worldview had long ago fallen out of favor, lost to the 1970s and obscured instead by the cheerfully appointed goal posts of contemporary feminism.

If you are concerned about misogyny, you are worried less about how we can create a better world for women who want to share whole-grain breakfasts with their children and still make it to Teterboro on time for the flight to the board meeting in Sun Valley, and more about the cultural damage inflicted by collective male rage. You take to heart Margaret Atwood’s famous saying that men are worried that women will laugh at them while women are worried that men will kill them. You are a generalist, really, and you see that the problem goes beyond whatever hindrance men might pose to your making partner or getting the dishwasher emptied. One kind of feminism imagines men as an existential threat, another merely as an inconvenience.

The former, of course, is a dark and not consistently rational way to think. That is why many women — particularly educated, affluent women who live in cities where crime rates are at historical lows and the presence of physical danger and extreme prejudice seem distant — don’t easily imagine that they could be set on fire on their way to dinner.


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/16/nyregion/misogyny-is-back-did-it-ever-go-away.html?_r=0

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ismnotwasm Oct 2016 OP
discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2016 #1
ismnotwasm Oct 2016 #2
discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2016 #3
Francis Booth Oct 30 #6
discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 30 #7
Francis Booth Oct 30 #9
discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 30 #10
Francis Booth Oct 30 #11
irisblue Oct 2016 #4
Francis Booth Oct 30 #8
smirkymonkey Oct 24 #5

Response to ismnotwasm (Original post)

Fri Oct 14, 2016, 01:30 PM

1. Screw the hate crime thing

The bastard needs to tried as an adult for attempted murder.

"attempted assault and harassment"... really??? If you set someone on fire, it's "attempted assault and harassment"? Does the attack need to result 3rd degree burns before it becomes aggravated assault?

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #1)

Fri Oct 14, 2016, 01:40 PM

2. Right?

I noticed that too--just insane

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Response to ismnotwasm (Reply #2)

Fri Oct 14, 2016, 01:44 PM

3. I'm hoping the "attempted" charge is due to...

...lack of evidence only and that they are still investigating.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #1)

Sun Oct 30, 2016, 06:49 AM

6. Those little shits need to be locked away for a long time. Their complete lack of empathy for

other living beings tells me that they're lost souls, ticking time bombs.

I suspect there were one or two ringleaders, with the others stupidly following along, but make no mistake - those women could have been burned to death.

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Response to Francis Booth (Reply #6)

Sun Oct 30, 2016, 06:54 AM

7. re: "...locked away for a long time."

There is only one valid criteria for releasing a violent criminal from prison...


...lack of a pulse.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #7)

Sun Oct 30, 2016, 07:06 AM

9. In general, I agree that violent people need to be kept separate from everyone else, but

sometimes people lose that predatory instinct with advanced age. They should be evaluated every few years after age 50 to ascertain if they still exhibit antisocial behaviors.

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Response to Francis Booth (Reply #9)

Sun Oct 30, 2016, 07:36 AM

10. I'm not against it but I'd suggest 60.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #10)

Sun Oct 30, 2016, 08:38 AM

11. I'll meet you halfway - 55 ;)

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Response to ismnotwasm (Original post)

Fri Oct 14, 2016, 06:48 PM

4. Trump is/has tried to make rape culture & misogyny as no big deal

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Response to irisblue (Reply #4)

Sun Oct 30, 2016, 07:02 AM

8. I believe it goes even further than that with Donald. I suspect he may be a sociopath. He sees

all other people as simply extras in the never-ending Donald Trump Show; they exist to amuse him, to be arranged and rearranged until he finds the aesthetic pleasing. As props, he can do whatever his impulses tell him to do. Kiss, grab, fuck, rape, discard; it doesn't matter because no one really exists except himself.

He also has the ability to charm large numbers of people of lesser intelligence, to tap into their anger and frustration. and considering that one half of any large population has below average intelligence, he's got a pretty large group of people to work with.

I'm watching this man come within a breath of the Presidency, and I feel like I'm in a nightmare that I can't wake up from.

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Response to ismnotwasm (Original post)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 09:34 AM

5. +1000

Sickening.

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