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BainsBane

(53,031 posts)
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 11:15 PM Mar 2015

The rapey song resulted in a $7.9 million verdict

to Marvin Gaye's children.

Gaye's children — Nona, Frankie and Marvin Gaye III — sued the two singers in 2013.

Their lawyer, Richard Busch, branded Williams and Thicke liars who went beyond trying to emulate the sound of Gaye's late-1970s music and copied the R&B legend's hit "Got to Give It Up" outright.

The family "fought this fight despite every odd being against them," Busch said after the verdict, which could face years of appeals.

Thicke told jurors he didn't write "Blurred Lines," which Williams testified he crafted in about an hour in mid-2012.

Williams testified that Gaye's music was part of the soundtrack of his youth. But the seven-time Grammy winner said he didn't use any of it to create "Blurred Lines."


http://www.startribune.com/entertainment/music/295778951.html
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The rapey song resulted in a $7.9 million verdict (Original Post) BainsBane Mar 2015 OP
so why do women love stuff like this, that's the real question. nt msongs Mar 2015 #1
I don't marym625 Mar 2015 #3
they ripped off Marvin Gaye, and it's very hard to not like Marvin Gaye's music nt geek tragedy Mar 2015 #8
K&R! marym625 Mar 2015 #2
This mixes parts of the two songs together BainsBane Mar 2015 #4
we are watching the end of music, as murdered by the music industry Man from Pickens Mar 2015 #5
If he did that without permission marym625 Mar 2015 #6
People don't listen to the words of dance music ismnotwasm Mar 2015 #7
you are right. and his next album walked to creepy. seabeyond Mar 2015 #9
Do you have the link for that? BainsBane Mar 2015 #10
sorry seabeyond Mar 2015 #12
Good for the family! Phentex Mar 2015 #11

marym625

(17,997 posts)
2. K&R!
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 11:35 PM
Mar 2015

I had to look up the lyrics. I saw Chris Hayes talk about it being the next subject up and he was surprised at the verdict. I didn't know anything about this before that.

I don't know why he was surprised but wtf kind of song is this anyway? Eesh!

BainsBane

(53,031 posts)
4. This mixes parts of the two songs together
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 02:12 AM
Mar 2015


So you can see why it was a copyright infringement. Of course the verdict has nothing to do with the rape critique, but I thought people would be interested since the song has been discussed in this group.
 

Man from Pickens

(1,713 posts)
5. we are watching the end of music, as murdered by the music industry
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 02:43 AM
Mar 2015

I'm sure most people saw this already but here's a reminder:



Six top hits, so close you can splice them together and they sound like one single song, without even having to run any effects through it. And people must have paid their money for this song-in-many-guises, some of them possibly all six times, or they wouldn't keep churning it out.

Try figuring out the original songwriter on that one!

marym625

(17,997 posts)
6. If he did that without permission
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 06:47 AM
Mar 2015

How did anyone think he would win?

I don't know why I missed those discussions. Thank you for posting.

I don't understand how anyone thinks a song about raping is okay.

It's no wonder guys grow up thinking that's what women want. It's so prevalent in songs, games, etc. I am no prude. I am against censorship. But this kind of shit just boggles my mind.

ismnotwasm

(41,976 posts)
7. People don't listen to the words of dance music
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 09:17 AM
Mar 2015

Or spin their own meaning to lyrics. I mean "Cortez the Killer" by Neil Young has been known to be played at weddings.(not that bad, I guess, worse is "Down by the River"--which also has used as a wedding song )
In Thicke's case the song would have been lost amount a thousand other songs with dicey lyrics if he hadn't made that video--one of the most misoginist videos I've ever seen. His song was a major hit anyway-- but it was good to see push back.

I didn't pick up on the rip off, but I love Marcin Gaye, and I think Thicke is good for exposing shitty lyrics. And now plagiarism. What a pig. "I didn't know"-- bullshit-- somebody knew.

Good songwriters often put their heart of their sleeve or reflect the times, but that doesn't make the very danceable "Brown Sugar" by the Stones any less creepy. Or the Beatles "Run for Your Life"

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
9. you are right. and his next album walked to creepy.
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 11:12 AM
Mar 2015
....Around the world, the numbers were much, much worse. In the UK, Paula debuted at number 200—the lowest spot on the ranking. It sold 530 copies in its first week available. Sales numbers are often much smaller in the country because of the population size, but they are not typically that low.


After the media picked up on that story and it spread like wildfire, chart numbers were released in Australia, and it was revealed that the album didn’t even make it to the top 500 albums in the country. In fact, it sold so few copies, ARIA (Australia’s Billboard equivalent) can’t even tell how many it actually did move. The lowest album recorded sold 54 copies, and everything outside of the top 500 isn’t measured, so Paula sold fewer than that. How many fewer, we cannot tell.

*

After his headline-grabbing performance with Miley Cyrus at the MTV Music Video Awards—the event that launched the word twerk into the lexicon of every American—things started to go downhill for the singer. Claims that both the music video (which also attracted a lot of media attention and has so far received over 325 million views on YouTube) and the lyrics to “Blurred Lines” were actually incredibly misogynistic began to collect.


A few months later, Thicke and his wife, actress Paula Patton, announced that after nine years of marriage they had decided to split. While Patton has stuck to the decision, the singer has gone on a very public campaign to win her over again, even going so far as to name this latest CD after her and release a single called “Get Her Back”.

Today, Robin Thicke is almost unilaterally disliked. A Twitter Q&A he did a month ago backfired immensely, with participants bombarding him with jokes and inappropriate comments. His Paula campaign—from his latest music video to lyrics to the general feel of his current work—is considered creepy, and the numbers show how put off people are by the mixture of misogyny and—as some critics have put it—simply bad music.


this is where women and many many mens voice rocked. the adaptions of blurred lines said a lot. and they were entertaining, people watched.
 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
12. sorry
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 01:52 PM
Mar 2015

it took so long getting back to you

i have read much better articles breaking paula down. i was not impressed with this. but i didnt have time ot hunt down better articles.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2014/07/14/the-shocking-downfall-of-robin-thicke/

Phentex

(16,334 posts)
11. Good for the family!
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 05:54 PM
Mar 2015

I'm glad they fought this.

The creepy, desperate, lying perv Thicke can just go away now.

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