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Tue Jun 12, 2012, 03:12 PM

Violence Against Women Disguised as ‘Fashion’

http://jezebel.com/5916650/fashions-ongoing-violence-against-women/

Bulgarian fashion magazine 12 just published an appalling editorial containing nothing but portraits of models with horrific injuries. It's a "beauty" spread — the kind of feature that normally highlights a makeup artist's skills and aims to sell the "new" eyeshadow color of the season —but it isn't very beautiful. There are models with Black Dahlia-style Glasgow Smiles, models who've been strangled, models who've had their earrings and facial piercings ripped out, and models who've been mutilated with acid. It's all special-effects makeup, but it's still sickening. These photos give you an idea the nature of the spread. And it's hardly the first of its kind.

It'sa given that fashion magazines— like other forms of mass media —often aim to shock. Because they like the attention. Because they like the ad dollars. Because they like the rebellious reputation that shocking us squares confers. But it's still worthwhile to examine the means by which they achieve that shock value. The high-fashion world in general loves to think of itself as contrarian, élite, and boldly at odds with the tastes and mores of the wider public. It likes to think that it, in fact, leads those tastes. But much of the imagery the fashion industry uses to communicate its messages at best echoes and at worst reinforces some of the wider culture's most negative ideas about women and girls. As we all know thanks to Joan Didion, "it ispossible for people to be the unconscious instruments of values they would strenuously reject on a conscious level." Fashion, in all its contradictions, is great evidence of that.

The history of fashion is rife with depictions of and references to violence against women. Historically, photographers including Helmut Newton and Guy Bourdin had a particular fascination with bloodied, bruised, or dead models, whom they often depicted in sexualized positions (a vein that contemporary fashion photographer Steven Klein continues to probe). The "dead girl" is such a trope of ladymags that it was imitated on America's Next Top Model— five years ago.

As Margi Laird McHue wrote in her 2008 book, Domestic Violence: A Reference Handbook, this kind of imagery is highly problematic.

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Reply Violence Against Women Disguised as ‘Fashion’ (Original post)
redqueen Jun 2012 OP
JustAnotherGen Jun 2012 #1
redqueen Jun 2012 #3
seabeyond Jun 2012 #5
JustAnotherGen Jun 2012 #6
seabeyond Jun 2012 #7
JustAnotherGen Jun 2012 #9
seabeyond Jun 2012 #10
MadrasT Jun 2012 #17
seabeyond Jun 2012 #8
JustAnotherGen Jun 2012 #11
seabeyond Jun 2012 #13
seabeyond Jun 2012 #2
redqueen Jun 2012 #4
JustAnotherGen Jun 2012 #12
seabeyond Jun 2012 #14
MadrasT Jun 2012 #15
seabeyond Jun 2012 #16
laconicsax Jun 2012 #18
seabeyond Jun 2012 #19
yardwork Jun 2012 #20
opiate69 Jun 2012 #25
yardwork Jun 2012 #26
opiate69 Jun 2012 #29
yardwork Jun 2012 #31
opiate69 Jun 2012 #32
yardwork Jun 2012 #21
seabeyond Jun 2012 #22
yardwork Jun 2012 #30
seabeyond Jun 2012 #33
yardwork Jun 2012 #34
seabeyond Jun 2012 #23
seabeyond Jun 2012 #24
redqueen Jun 2012 #27
seabeyond Jun 2012 #28
laconicsax Jun 2012 #35
BlueToTheBone Jun 2012 #36

Response to redqueen (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 04:04 PM

1. And the sick photographers and editors

Who support this nonsense. It goes beyond just the bruises/beatings/victim of violence - and goes to the complete dehumanization of the subjects. Mannequins, missing body parts, grown women posing with dolls, twin imaging, duality - yuck. It all adds up to 'step out of yourself and be a good little girl'.


The more I dig into an article I'm writing for an esoteric publication - the sicker and sicker and I'm getting.


redqueen - forgive me if I took this too far off base. Propaganda as a means of mind and BEHAVIOR control can only occur with a complicit media - and consumers of media whose eyes are wide open - yet closed. The brutality and violence depicted are the tip of the iceberg.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 04:13 PM

3. Please don't apologize for that...

it is an extremely important tangent, and one that imo needs to be explored much more fully.

Thanks for your insightful post, and I hope you'll share at least the high points of your paper somewhere on DU.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 04:40 PM

5. The more I dig into an article I'm writing for an esoteric publication

???

is it something you would want to share. i am curious what this is about.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #5)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 06:02 PM

6. Hmmm

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Im a Unitarian Universalist who takes deep dives into the faith/belief system. I'm a humanist and Magdalener. So I started out researching the recent blogosphere of Illuminati Conspiracy Theories . . . From a point of "disprove". I married that with the tapes of my father discussing the brain washing he went through when he was becoming a Green Beret. We recorded these in summer of 2004 - those tapes have so much detail and his written records of his experiences both doing "boy scout duty" and Delta "duties" in areas of interest in the 70s and 60s.

The last week of his life (August of last year) he kept having me take down notes and he kept saying "I'm Shattering". Going over and over about things in "pop culture" and how he didn't let them get to his kids. So I started from there. Nine months in - I don't know if it's true or if there are people in the media who BELIEVE it so propagate it. Their cult so to speak.

But lately I'm feeling very much as I'm sure Margaret Starbird did. But instead of finding the divine energy - I'm finding the subjugation of divine energy and total dehumanization of women.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #6)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 06:14 PM

7. totally, totally...

fuckin fascinating.

Magdalener. i goggled for define and i didnt find anything. i want to hear your fathers experience.

" instead of finding the divine energy - I'm finding the subjugation of divine energy and total dehumanization of women." and i am very much interested in this.

thank you

aything you want to throw up in this forum for us to think about, i would really appreciate.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #7)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 08:56 PM

9. Magdalener

I believe she was the one who walked with him, he was human, they had male/female divine energy. Occult sometimes means the "hidden". The occult side of the narrative that I feel was deliberately hidden. I'm very quiet about the spiritual circles I run in at DU - and in general as you will find most who adhere to the Unitarian from a Judeo Christian basis do not believe in evangelical behavior of those who are Christians. Aside from the denial of the trinity - those who document and explore the belief system from a scholarly perspective can never agree on anything! except for secular things like the Leauge ofWomen Voters, te ACLU, and potluck suppers!

Also - note my dad's military experience was in the 60's and 70's. I corrected the last post.

This isn't holy blood holy grail stuff. Starbird thought that was a hoax and set out to disprove it. instead - she disproved it to some degree but found something much more beautiful. Her first book was The Woman With The Alabaster Jar. Fascinating material. She doesn't re- write the gospels - but she does use human common sense and history to understand the time and place where the narrative took place.

And when we understand that time and place. Long before the Sun Gods' narratives were woven over the drama of one man with a lot of chutzpah, his wealthy wife/lover/comrade and how they triggered a revolution from within people (alchemy) - there was just love. I almost wonder and hope in my life I can unravel for myself if those two were driven by Canticles/Song of Solomon . . . Which "sings" of woman (en) being the wonderful creatures we are - the object of the spirit's love.

I'll get into te other stuff in another post. And I apologize to anyone who I might ave offended by preaching. It wasn't my intent. Just trying to explain that the pop culture books/movies triggered by The Davinci Code are just that. There are people that have held these beliefs in Arius' honor for more than 1700 years.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #9)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 09:30 PM

10. well...

i thank you. i appreciate what you posted. i dont know a lot about what you are talking about, but it is interesting. and your manner of wrapping things together, really interesting. i like to learn about all religions and i see my own stuff in it, have my own way of interpreting, lol. i have had my own experience that i dont share a lot on the board, either. but, it is valid to me. and works for me. i am open.

will enjoy anything else you bring. and may even be able to participate, or just appreciate the learning.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #9)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 11:50 PM

17. Thanks for your discussion here.

*Really* interesting to think about and investigate further.

Scary... but interesting.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #6)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 06:15 PM

8. with all of this subject you have been research and learning about

do you find it take over, in a way, your life? does it effect you? or are you able to put it aside.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #8)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 09:32 PM

11. Yes

It affects me. I see it everywhere.

I worry for President Obama because I truly don't believe he was supposed to be where he is.

I worry for my father's friend - good friend - Jeff Macdonald. My father went to his grave believing he was sent a sharp message. Either Jeffrey Macdonald was put into sleeper mode and "slept" through the murder of his wife and children - or he was sleeping. The same kind of sleep Deltas do to get through their orders. Either way - they were all told to keep quiet or else.

I spoke with a woman who wrote a book about this that he had spoken to in the 90s. He believed her. He was also clear she could havehad memories implanted in her to make her think her childhood was that horrific - for the sole purpose of disinformation.


I'm not a loose change 9/11 Truther. But I understand why people feel the NEED to believe that. Klein's Shock Doctrine is just on the surface. I think these people have been "shocked". I think it was an opening but because they went the way they did - any questioning - example - why those Green Berets were killed so early in the Iraq so-called War leaves the questioner painted as a nut.

I will never - at my father's request allow my children to watch Disney movies. No way - no how.

And how it all ties back to the original post? Those dang Disney Princesses. It starts so young. What happened to Bambi's mother again when she didn't follow the rules? What happens to women who can harness the elements(scientists today - witches back then), and try to obtain and hold onto a kingdom (personal power and leadership)? Well she doesn't get to be the fairest one of all. Or she dies - or both.

It's not everywhere - but there is enough out there to make one pause and think. Why do "they" find women posed as mannequins so sexy? Why is a woman dressed up like a kitty cat so appealing? Why is a bruised and beaten woman in lingerie such a commercial draw? It's not even recent. The Guess brand had Anna Nicole Smith posed in a field in a hunters scope/lens - in the 1990's

Add it all up - and these women hating images are prevalent. And I think it's much darker than we ever think to delve into here. There is but one woman who I think could effectively pull it all together. Naomi Wolf needs to re- open the subject matter of The Beauty myth and marry it to Letter To A Young Patriot. Maybe then we will all wake up.

Sorry - heavy dark stuff. I promise I'm not crazy - just curious and a skeptic about any and all authority right now. Read up on MK Ultra. What was found through those experiments post WW II (and from Project Paper clip) was used in the 1960's on a few good men. . . Who were told nothing was off limits when serving you country? Leaders? Masters?

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #11)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 09:58 PM

13. wow. lol

i had to google Jeffrey Macdonald.

after this afternoon and what i saw with four young kids (teens) and then reading the couple of threads redqueen put up, i had a very long conversation with my two boys today. i am just hitting the surface. and it goes so beyond the whole disney princess thing. but, i have my own issue with those. i am gonna google and read mk ultra later. thanks for what you posted. may even have to check out the beauty myth....

wow.

thanks for taking the time to post this. a lot to think about.

as far as what you talk about with what your father experienced and how much we do not know, i hear ya.

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Response to redqueen (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 04:06 PM

2. yes... our entertainment today as we are constantly told that this does not effect us

and we should not be bothered by this. and where are the people yelling.... enough.

oh, i know, they are too busy being entertained by it.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #2)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 04:15 PM

4. Yep!

It's so hip and cool!

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #2)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 09:43 PM

12. Or entranced

By it.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #12)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 10:03 PM

14. Or entranced

i dont know if it is because of your posts i just read, but absolutely. that makes so much more sense. thank you for the little kick to better understanding what you were saying. even more interesting. i am so glad you shared.

it connects onto a thread i did a couple days ago. going thru the stories at cnn. the face eating... new video of face eating, eating brain, porn dude killing on tape, finding body parts.

just what is this that they are putting out for us to watch. what is it with people watching this garbage.

accidently going into a porn site when i was looking for articles and a picture i saw. i could not believe what they were doing with a females body to get people off. the total all around disrespect of it. still cant get that picture out of my brain and people spend massive time looking at this shit.

i have seen it as entertainment.

entrance. entrance is a much better feel and fit.

thanks.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #14)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 11:25 PM

15. somehow

I just know this is going to end up in yet another bizarre spinoff thread in another group that seems to be freakishly preoccupied with the conversations in this one.

Snork.

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Response to MadrasT (Reply #15)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 11:40 PM

16. snorkin' right there with ya. lol.

I am sure having a rope around a woman's neck dragged by a man or in a trunk with a man digging a hole can easily be dismissed. Lighten up Francis.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #16)

Wed Jun 13, 2012, 12:18 AM

18. Tangentially related...

 

I'm really surprised "Lighten up Francis" hasn't turned into "Lighten up Francine" for when we discuss sexism and misogyny.

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Response to laconicsax (Reply #18)

Wed Jun 13, 2012, 08:40 AM

19. "Lighten up Francine"

ha... i have thought that myself.

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Response to laconicsax (Reply #18)

Wed Jun 13, 2012, 01:34 PM

20. They can't be bothered to acknowledge the female gender even in their insults.

It's an insult within an insult.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #20)

Wed Jun 13, 2012, 02:45 PM

25. Francis is strictly a male name???

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My mother-in-law (as well as a once famous actress) would probably find that shocking news.

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Response to opiate69 (Reply #25)

Wed Jun 13, 2012, 03:10 PM

26. That's a good point. lol! But the reference is to a male character in a film.

See Stripes. It's a funny line. Clearly directed at a male character. That entire film is very sexist, btw. Not that I didn't laugh.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #26)

Wed Jun 13, 2012, 03:17 PM

29. oh I know... Love that movie and often use that quote on my 14 year old lol

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Response to opiate69 (Reply #29)

Wed Jun 13, 2012, 03:18 PM

31. It's truly a classic line.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #31)

Wed Jun 13, 2012, 03:22 PM

32. so many in that movie! But I wont derail any further!

we now return you to your regularly scheduled thread

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Response to redqueen (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2012, 01:39 PM

21. This is appalling but a logical continuation of the fashion industry's long-time behavior.

In the 1970s I remember writing a school essay on how Brooke Shields was being objectified by Vogue and other fashion magazines in ways that implied child pornography. She played the role of a child forced into prostitution in the film Pretty Baby, and the fashion magazines ran with it, featuring her on their covers caked with makeup and half-naked. Then came "heroin chic" in which models like Kate Moss were portrayed as waiflike children, romanticizing anorexia nervosa. Now we've got ultra-thin childlike models made up to look like victims of torture and murder.

It's a reflection of society's sick treatment of women and children.

Edited to add - Leonard Cohen noticed this a long time ago. Check out the lyrics to First We Take Manhattan.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #21)

Wed Jun 13, 2012, 01:57 PM

22. First We Take Manhattan





They sentenced me to twenty years of boredom
For trying to change the system from within
I'm coming now, I'm coming to reward them
First we take Manhattan, then we take Berlin

I'm guided by a signal in the heavens
I'm guided by this birthmark on my skin
I'm guided by the beauty of our weapons
First we take Manhattan, then we take Berlin

I'd really like to live beside you, baby
I love your body and your spirit and your clothes
But you see that line there moving through the station?
I told you, I told you, told you, I was one of those

Ah you loved me as a loser, but now you're worried that I just might win
You know the way to stop me, but you don't have the discipline
How many nights I prayed for this, to let my work begin
First we take Manhattan, then we take Berlin

I don't like your fashion business mister
And I don't like these drugs that keep you thin
I don't like what happened to my sister
First we take Manhattan, then we take Berlin

I'd really like to live beside you, baby

And I thank you for those items that you sent me
The monkey and the plywood violin
I practiced every night, now I'm ready
First we take Manhattan, then we take Berlin

I am guided

Ah remember me, I used to live for music
Remember me, I brought your groceries in
Well it's Father's Day and everybody's wounded
First we take Manhattan, then we take Berlin
---
Read more at http://www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/71607/#tYfxvsh6GBWMMKze.99

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #22)

Wed Jun 13, 2012, 03:17 PM

30. Most people focus on the terrorism angle, but they overlook the references to the fashion industry.

The words can't be ignored - the direct references to the fashion industry, drugs that keep you thin, I don't like what happened to my sister. Yes, the song is from the point of view of a creepy terrorist plotting an attack, but it's also got lots of references to the fashion industry.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #30)

Wed Jun 13, 2012, 03:58 PM

33. i saw that.... actually...

i kinda liked the song. was fun watching the video, thanks.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #33)

Wed Jun 13, 2012, 04:50 PM

34. Jennifer Warnes did a recording of Leonard Cohen songs. I love it. Look for Famous Blue Raincoat.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #21)

Wed Jun 13, 2012, 01:59 PM

23. i was reading about brooke shields the other day

she said that period was totally ok. yet then she went on to say how she waited until 24 to have sex. that she was so uncomfortable in her body, and worth and it manifested in sex. she wishes she had not waited so long and made the deal out of it. so... who knows.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #23)

Wed Jun 13, 2012, 02:44 PM

24. “reveal the femininity of prepubescent girls by comparing them to adult women”

At the age of TEN she was photographed by Gary Gross (via Playboy Press) in a series meant to “reveal the femininity of prepubescent girls by comparing them to adult women”.

http://feminainvicta.com/tag/brooke-shields/

______________________

someone sent this blog on shields. not gonna put up the bathtub picutre that goes with the quote, but.... fuckin wow.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #24)

Wed Jun 13, 2012, 03:13 PM

27. and Hugh Hefner and Flynt are celebrated here on DU.

Like I keep saying, BROgressive.

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Response to redqueen (Reply #27)

Wed Jun 13, 2012, 03:14 PM

28. yes they are, little... i mean very little, gutter dwellers that they are. nt

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Response to redqueen (Reply #27)

Thu Jun 14, 2012, 02:46 AM

35. Of course they are. They're only interested in preserving free speech rights.

 

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Response to redqueen (Original post)

Sat Jun 16, 2012, 04:36 PM

36. the high heeled shoe should be a giveaway

that fashion designers HATE women.

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