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Sat Dec 21, 2013, 12:45 AM

Ladies, listen up

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No more posts from Jezebel making fun of MRA types. No more making fun of "misandry," the word that even spell check doesn't know. You "in your face feminists" are a royal pain because you make some men feel bad. The most important lesson for being a feminist is that you must never under any circumstances make a man feel bad. So if you post about far right-wing MRA ideas, and some random DUer can't be bothered to read the article or figure out the context and therefore takes it as a condemnation of all men, that's just your fault. Don't recommend threads because if they end up on the home page or greatest page and someone can't be bothered to read the OP or see which group its in, that's all your fault.

So here are the lessons for proper "feminist" etiquette:

Don't broad brush. Now one might think broad brushing means leaping to conclusions about all men are this or that. However, as has been pointed out to we slow learners of HOF, broad brushing also includes any discussion of sexism or patriarchy or any critique of MRA Groups. What is not broadbrushing, however, is when a man uses an example of his ex-girlfriend as evidence of what is wrong with all women. That's okay because he's a guy and you're just a woman.

Stick to the ERA.
Acceptable feminist "tactics" involve limiting your speech to what men find acceptable. So rather than talking about social norms, sexism, and misogyny, keep it simple, focus on the ERA. We were told that at least three times in a recent thread, so we must learn.

Don't talk about rape: Rape is a big bummer, unless of course it's the subject of porn, then it's totally cool. Discussion of real rape bums some guys out. Remember that rape really isn't that big of a deal because it's numbers are in decline. So no "haranging" men about how to prevent rape. The only acceptable rape prevention campaigns are those that lecture women on their behavior. Men have absolutely nothing to do with rape. Rapists have absolutely nothing to do with rape. Rape is entirely a function of how much a woman drinks, what she wears, and where she goes.

Don't talk about violence against women. If you aren't talking about violence against men, you have no right to mention violence period.

If a man claims to be a Democrat, he is your ally. What he says or does is inconsequential. That he claims to be a Democrat is enough. You have no right under any circumstances to suggest anything about him is anything other than perfect.

So final lesson: Focus on the ERA. Be nice. Smile. Don't be overly forceful in stating your opinions. Don't talk about stuff that bums guys out. Work only for those rights men agree are necessary or acceptable. Remember ladies. This isn't the Congo or Saudi Arabia. They let us drive and wear clothing that shows our legs. Remember how lucky you are. Above all, stay in your place.

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Reply Ladies, listen up (Original post)
BainsBane Dec 2013 OP
niyad Dec 2013 #1
BainsBane Dec 2013 #3
seabeyond Dec 2013 #16
seabeyond Dec 2013 #2
Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #4
BainsBane Dec 2013 #5
Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #7
NuclearDem Dec 2013 #10
Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #11
ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #6
Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #9
NuclearDem Dec 2013 #8
DonCoquixote Dec 2013 #12
BainsBane Dec 2013 #13
DonCoquixote Dec 2013 #14
BainsBane Dec 2013 #15
seabeyond Dec 2013 #17
yuiyoshida Dec 2013 #18
Squinch Dec 2013 #19
BainsBane Dec 2013 #21
Sheldon Cooper Dec 2013 #20
redqueen Dec 2013 #22
xulamaude Dec 2013 #23
smirkymonkey Dec 2013 #24
seabeyond Dec 2013 #25
BainsBane Dec 2013 #26
seabeyond Dec 2013 #27
BainsBane Dec 2013 #28
seabeyond Dec 2013 #29
Name removed Dec 2013 #30
arcane1 Dec 2013 #31
xulamaude Dec 2013 #32
LineLineReply .
redqueen Dec 2013 #33
seabeyond Dec 2013 #34
boston bean Dec 2013 #35
seabeyond Dec 2013 #36
BainsBane Dec 2013 #39
ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #37
BainsBane Dec 2013 #38
geek tragedy Dec 2013 #40
BainsBane Dec 2013 #41
xulamaude Dec 2013 #42
redqueen Dec 2013 #43
xulamaude Dec 2013 #44
MuseRider Dec 2013 #45
Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #46
MuseRider Dec 2013 #47
Squinch Dec 2013 #48

Response to BainsBane (Original post)

Sat Dec 21, 2013, 12:52 AM

1. oh, dear. . .I never have been able to do what I am told.

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Response to niyad (Reply #1)

Sat Dec 21, 2013, 12:56 AM

3. That's because

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #3)

Sat Dec 21, 2013, 01:52 AM

16. and we do not...

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Response to BainsBane (Original post)

Sat Dec 21, 2013, 12:52 AM

2. very good. i read there is no need for feminism. we are beating a dead horse. aspirin between the

knees now.

it is always nice when the men lecture the women that we only do this cause we need something to mouth off about.

thucythucy pretty damn smart

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Response to BainsBane (Original post)

Sat Dec 21, 2013, 01:11 AM

4. you forgot flirting.

They like that.


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Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Reply #4)

Sat Dec 21, 2013, 01:12 AM

5. Not too much

and don't show your cleavage unless you're prepared to put out.

Edited to add in case anyone's irony meter is on the fritz.

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #5)

Sat Dec 21, 2013, 01:19 AM

7. boobage is a sure sign of forthcoming fuckage.

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Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Reply #7)

Sat Dec 21, 2013, 01:22 AM

10. --Shakespeare

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Response to NuclearDem (Reply #10)

Sat Dec 21, 2013, 01:24 AM

11. oh my --George Takei

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Response to BainsBane (Original post)

Sat Dec 21, 2013, 01:18 AM

6. Bwahahahahaha ( wipes tears of laughter)



*snort* *sniffle*



Oh god now my stomach hurts.

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Response to ismnotwasm (Reply #6)

Sat Dec 21, 2013, 01:21 AM

9. IKR

really excellent. Bains and MrScorpio have been knocking it out of the park last two nights.

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Response to BainsBane (Original post)

Sat Dec 21, 2013, 01:21 AM

8. Well I personally feel liberated and justified now.

I had a bad experience with a now-ex girlfriend a few years back. Now I know it's not only logical but acceptable to broad brush all women based on that, and what's better, NEENER NEENER NEENER, you FEMINISTS can't call me on it lest you become the dreaded INYOURFACE feminists.

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Response to BainsBane (Original post)

Sat Dec 21, 2013, 01:29 AM

12. er, I assume

this is sarcasm ala Third Way Manny?

Now that can be a title, instead of third way manny, be non feminist feminist

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Response to DonCoquixote (Reply #12)

Sat Dec 21, 2013, 01:40 AM

13. Wow. I didn't expect that comparison

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #13)

Sat Dec 21, 2013, 01:42 AM

14. it was meant as a compliment

from a fan of third way manny No need to make the puppy sad

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Response to DonCoquixote (Reply #14)

Sat Dec 21, 2013, 01:43 AM

15. Okay, then I shall take it that way

Thank you.

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #13)

Sat Dec 21, 2013, 01:55 AM

17. that is to two too cute. nt

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Response to BainsBane (Original post)

Sat Dec 21, 2013, 03:34 AM

18. Has a

for all these replies. Yay.

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Response to BainsBane (Original post)

Sat Dec 21, 2013, 08:11 AM

19. Yes, but what if they have an interest in psychology? Do we just sit at their feet, or should

we actually kiss their feet then?

I have so much to learn!

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Response to Squinch (Reply #19)

Sat Dec 21, 2013, 09:04 AM

21. and an ex girlfriend

which means he knows everything about all women and exactly what we need to do. Not that he would broad brush.

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Response to BainsBane (Original post)

Sat Dec 21, 2013, 08:18 AM

20. Bravo!!

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Response to BainsBane (Original post)

Sat Dec 21, 2013, 10:07 AM

22. LOL!



Men telling women how to do feminism...never gets old.

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Response to BainsBane (Original post)

Sat Dec 21, 2013, 10:44 AM

23. A+ :)

 

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Response to BainsBane (Original post)

Sat Dec 21, 2013, 11:20 AM

24. Oh, and don't forget...

flash your tits.

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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #24)

Sat Dec 21, 2013, 11:23 AM

25. yes. women that flash the boobs are the true feminists... lol. that is right. we forgot. nt

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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #24)

Sat Dec 21, 2013, 11:24 AM

26. That's only acceptable if they are A cup

and attached to 115 lb bodies. You know, Femen style. No chubby chicks allowed, and large breasts make you look stupid. I learned that last one on DU.

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Response to BainsBane (Original post)

Sat Dec 21, 2013, 11:41 AM

27. and btw baines. i am no lady. i am all woman.

my little pet peeve.

lady


woman







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Response to seabeyond (Reply #27)

Sat Dec 21, 2013, 11:46 AM

28. Oh, I know. The word choice was deliberate.

Meant to invoke the dainty tea drinker they think we should all be.

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #28)

Sat Dec 21, 2013, 11:50 AM

29. thank you. after posting.... and i truly LOVE what i posted and that woman, i thought

that might have been deliberate.

thank you

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Sat Dec 21, 2013, 12:50 PM

31. You have to have some kind of bargain or reward just to act respectful to people..?

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Response to Name removed (Reply #30)

Sat Dec 21, 2013, 12:54 PM

32. LOL! *snort*

 

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Response to Name removed (Reply #30)

Sat Dec 21, 2013, 12:57 PM

33. .


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Response to redqueen (Reply #33)

Sat Dec 21, 2013, 01:03 PM

34. i wanna know.... nt

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #34)

Sat Dec 21, 2013, 01:04 PM

35. here is what was posted by name removed...

Look...here's the thing...

You need us, we don't you. I could quite happily live my life without feminism. I don't need feminists, and I'm not asking anything from them. You, on the other hand, have a big list of demands, and things men should or shouldn't do or say, but you're offering me nothing in return. You have nothing to negotiate with, so you rely purely on my goodwill. YOU need to convince ME, and you're not going to do it by being rude, aggressive, sarcastic or dismissive. It's as simple as that. You don't care about men's feelings or problems? Fine...makes no difference to me....but in that case, why would I care about yours?

Therefore, if you want me to listen to anything you have to say, you *WILL* conduct yourself appropriately and kiss my ass. If you don't, I'll simply ignore you.

Now, I'm sure your finger is already reflexively reaching for the alert button...but be aware that all you're doing is proving the stereotypes about feminists to be true and further eroding your credibility. If you can't defend your claims and views when questioned, or you think anyone who disagrees with you is a "misoygnist" or an "MRA", you probably shouldn't be posting messages on a public forum.

DU isn't your personal bully pulpit.

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Response to boston bean (Reply #35)

Sat Dec 21, 2013, 01:16 PM

36. which duer was this, i wonder, having to create a fake name to face the feminists on du. coward.

second... fuck human decency, got it.

third, how is the "not needing us" working for you, grasseaters and angry men cause you do not get any

third.... i will OBEY you? fuck that shit too. coward.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #36)

Sat Dec 21, 2013, 05:17 PM

39. Who was that masked sock man?

Evidently he thinks DU is his personal bully pulpit, yet he lacks the courage of his convictions to make his claims under his regular name.

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Response to boston bean (Reply #35)

Sat Dec 21, 2013, 03:15 PM

37. Who is this "us" of whom he speaks?

We'll never know.

A few psychological problems there.

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Response to boston bean (Reply #35)

Sat Dec 21, 2013, 04:28 PM

38. Actually no, I don't need him

and never will.

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Response to boston bean (Reply #35)

Sat Dec 21, 2013, 05:58 PM

40. he chose the wrong forum to post in

must not know about safe havens for that kind of attitude here

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #40)

Sat Dec 21, 2013, 06:08 PM

41. He knew

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #41)

Sat Dec 21, 2013, 06:19 PM

42. Yeah, Mr. First Post.

 

He knew all right.

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Response to xulamaude (Reply #42)

Sat Dec 21, 2013, 08:54 PM

43. Not their first post, just the only one using that sock.

Like others said, it's either someone too cowardly to use their usual du account, or a zombie with a fixation on this group.

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Response to redqueen (Reply #43)

Sat Dec 21, 2013, 09:59 PM

44. Perhaps I should have said

 

'Mr. One Post'


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Response to boston bean (Reply #35)

Sun Dec 22, 2013, 12:17 AM

45. I'm sorry

but that has to be the funniest thing I have read in a long time.

What was it I heard a couple of days ago? Talking to this one would be like trying to discuss physics with a grapefruit. I can't remember if it was one of you or somewhere else but it was something like that.

That was pure, unadulterated trolling from someone with the emotional state of a 2 year old. I am guessing this person does not even merit qualifications for an MRA, too stupid to be productive even there where actual thinking is not exactly treasured.

Ahhh well, an amusement on a snowy night.

I was actually looking for something to stir me up, make me warm a bit. I know there are other threads I just happened on this one.

*clap clap* LADIES, Oh LADIES ankles crossed, knees together, skirt down over your knees. Chest out, neatly bound by a wired contraption that hurts but provides the appropriate lifting for visual pleasantness and support. Hair nicely styled in a fashion most pleasurable to the opposite sex, makeup carefully applied. Now, on with the show. Who wants to talk about the best way to prepare lamb?

Anyone who remembers those days will fight against them as if their very lives depend on it, and they do. If that is not serious enough for some men to understand then we leave them behind and stop listening to it.

Love you all. You make life a learning experience, an experience of love and caring, fun and silliness all bound up with the strength and intelligence needed to keep our heads above water. When I am down I come here to read your responses. They always help. Thanks.

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Response to MuseRider (Reply #45)

Sun Dec 22, 2013, 12:48 AM

46. my opinion, if the sock was banned for that one post then the DUer that created that sock

should also be banned.

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Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Reply #46)

Sun Dec 22, 2013, 12:58 AM

47. I agree. n/t

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Response to boston bean (Reply #35)

Sun Dec 22, 2013, 04:14 PM

48. That, right there, is one of those furious formerly-privileged guys who is fully aware of his own

obsolescence.

One could almost feel sorry for him.

Almost.

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