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Sat Jun 15, 2013, 09:48 AM

"Lecturing" as a sexist trope

When I point out that referring to 95% of women as "disgusting" as hateful, I'm accused of lecturing. When another member responds with personal insults, a juror notes that my lectures are tiresome and that I even lecture the administrators by raising a point in ATA. http://www.democraticunderground.com/12592109 Countless others raise issues in ATA, and men who have raised similar concerns about pro-gun proliferation talking points are not accused of "lecturing."

How many times have feminists and women more broadly been accused of lecturing when they make a point? Men are able to say whatever they want and are confronted on the content of their posts. Women's concerns are dismissed as "lecturing" for even having the nerve to voice their views because clearly those making that charge think we have no right to express ourselves. So observers out there, the next time you accuse a woman of lecturing, be aware that we know what you really mean is "You're a woman and you need to keep your mouth shut." This will come as no surprise to those who make such comments, since they know full well what they mean. The fact that a few other women make this same charge changes nothing because there is a great deal of internalized sexism and misogyny.

Lastly, imagine what would happen if someone called "disgusting" the behavior or any group of people on the planet other than women? We all know the answer to that.

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Reply "Lecturing" as a sexist trope (Original post)
BainsBane Jun 2013 OP
Squinch Jun 2013 #1
BainsBane Jun 2013 #2
PassingFair Jun 2013 #3
Sheldon Cooper Jun 2013 #4
BainsBane Jun 2013 #5

Response to BainsBane (Original post)

Sat Jun 15, 2013, 11:37 AM

1. So let's do it, and see how it looks in print:

If the poster you were referring to said,

"95% of latino people are disgusting" or "95% of white men are disgusting" or "95% of gay people are disgusting" or "95% of southerners are disgusting" or "95% of those with physical or mental disabilities are disgusting" or just name any identifiable group!

If the poster said any of those things, it would be crystal clear to all reading it that the poster was a bigoted asshole.

It is so odd that many can't see that when the same statement is made about women.

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Response to Squinch (Reply #1)

Sat Jun 15, 2013, 11:41 AM

2. The only possible explanation

that I see is that they agree.

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Response to BainsBane (Original post)

Sat Jun 15, 2013, 12:27 PM

3. It must be your "shrillness".

Just kidding....

Most humans CANNOT overcome their own points of view.

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Response to BainsBane (Original post)

Sat Jun 15, 2013, 01:15 PM

4. Yep. It's meant to silence uppity women.

I will always think that those who accuse women of lecturing, along with many other things, have unresolved mommy issues.

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Response to Sheldon Cooper (Reply #4)

Sat Jun 15, 2013, 01:20 PM

5. Yep, and I plan on staying uppity

That must be why he called me "egocentric": I fail to acknowledge that as a woman I am inherently inferior and worthy of any and all scorn.

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