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Wed Jan 30, 2013, 08:20 PM

Two paragraphs from Man Cannot Speak for Her, Volume I, by K.K. Campbell.

Disclaimer: I typed this by hand, so mistakes or strange sentences are most likely my fault, as opposed to the author's fault.

I underlined the sentence that I personally found most interesting, and is my reason for posting.

Woman's rights agitation was in large measure a byproduct of women's efforts in other reform movements. Women seeking to end slavery, to attack the evils of alcohol abuse, and to improve the plight of prostitutes found themselves excluded from male reform organizations and attacked for involving themselves in concerns outside the home. A distinctive woman's rights movement began when women reformers recognized that they had to work for their own rights before they could be effective in other reform efforts.

Many early woman's rights advocates began as abolitionists, but because they were excluded from participation in the male anti-slavery societies, they formed female anti-slavery societies and ultimately, as chapter 2 describes, they began to press for their own rights in order to be more effective in the abolitionist struggle (Hersh 1978). Both Lucretia Coffin Mott and Elizabeth Cady Stanton dated the beginnings of the woman's rights movement from 1840, the year when five female delegates from U.S. anti-slavery societies, one of whom was Coffin Mott, were refused seating ath the World Anti-Slavery Convention in London. The outrage they felt at the debate that culminated in the denial of women's participation in the convention fueled their decision to call a woman's rights convention, a decision that eventuated in the Seneca Fall, New York, convention of 1848. Because the struggle to abolish slavery was so closely related to the earliest efforts for woman's rights, and because female abolitionists' speeches show them struggling to find ways to cope with proscriptions against speaking, the next chapter analyzes this connection. and the texts by abolitionist women are included in volume II.

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Reply Two paragraphs from Man Cannot Speak for Her, Volume I, by K.K. Campbell. (Original post)
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seabeyond Jan 2013 #1
ZombieHorde Jan 2013 #2
seabeyond Jan 2013 #3
ZombieHorde Jan 2013 #4
seabeyond Jan 2013 #11
dballance Jan 2013 #5
ZombieHorde Jan 2013 #7
dballance Jan 2013 #9
ZombieHorde Jan 2013 #10
seabeyond Jan 2013 #12
ismnotwasm Jan 2013 #6
ZombieHorde Jan 2013 #8

Response to ZombieHorde (Original post)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 08:25 PM

1. i am always so damn impressed with these women of the past.

this one, i knew.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 08:30 PM

2. I knew all the pieces, but underlined sentence really put it all together for me.

Perhaps I was just being a bit slow.

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Response to ZombieHorde (Reply #2)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 08:31 PM

3. who knows what tidbit

we knew or not. or what is going to jolt us to higher insight.

there is so much i do not know. i was thrillled i knew this.

i think though this is the experience with women and why it is a womans movement looking to promote only womens interest. this has been from the beginning. with civil rights also

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #3)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 08:39 PM

4. I am currently taking my third women's studies class this semester.

I wish you were taking it with me. I could use an enthusiastic study partner.

Move to Montana real quick and sign up for the class!

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Response to ZombieHorde (Reply #4)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 10:28 PM

11. montana is one of the states on my lists to go. lots of water for my hubby to fish.

i should do that. i should take some classes just for fun. but, i do not do well with groups of people. kinda not social.

i would have never pictured you in that state.

colo, wy, mo, wa, or oregon for me.

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Response to ZombieHorde (Original post)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 08:48 PM

5. Since Men Were so Dismissive of Women Do You Think that Allowed Them...

to maybe be able to be more effective for a period because they could do things like help run the Underground Railroad right under the men's noses? The men assuming the delicate sensitivities of women wouldn't allow them to do such things?

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Response to dballance (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 08:51 PM

7. That is a really interesting question. That very well could be the case.

Underestimating people does cause some degree of blindness.

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Response to ZombieHorde (Reply #7)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 08:56 PM

9. I'm Reminded of the Pivotal Mini-Series Roots

And how Chicken George was really a very intelligent man but played the ignorant slave around the white masters by changing his grammar and his mannerisms. I think some appropriately crafty women could have done something similar.

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Response to dballance (Reply #9)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 08:59 PM

10. Very likely, in my opinion. nt

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Response to dballance (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 10:30 PM

12. good point and i had thought that when i was young, learning this.

even when they had evidence and women being "soft hearted" men really never caught onto it. that mystique, lol.

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Response to ZombieHorde (Original post)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 08:49 PM

6. Excellent

I hate it when I type out from off- line sources, but there's much to share so sometimes i do it anyway and I thank you for the effort.

Pretty cool stand out sentence

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Response to ismnotwasm (Reply #6)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 08:52 PM

8. Thanks! nt

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