now that we have videos of girls raped and being put on the net for SOME mens

[seabeyond]

entertainment to get off on, i was thinking.

what if the name is connected to the video. she has kids. the video is on the net forever. and all a kid has to do is google moms name to watch her rape.

this thread got me thinking.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022191976

here this girl has been brutally raped. the sick fuck video taped her. the court allows even the public to watch at least a half hour of her terror.

do victims get NO protection what so ever?

i am truly appalled by this. and i think, if a name is connected, no fault of the victim, the kids will be able to share in the horror that mom went thru.

what a sick fuckin' world that would make.

i do not know a lot about the internet or how/if this could even be done. tell me not.

[gollygee]

1. She gets to know that's out in the world forever

for people to watch, and like you said, there are those who will be aroused by it.

It is horrible. There is some weird blind spot people have about rape. If those Steubenville kids had dragged someone around beating her over the head at various locations, and a coach had seen, would the coach have called 911? Would people in Steubenville have blamed her for it? People treat rape differently than other assaults. Would they keep a video of someone being stabbed up for people to watch forever?

[BainsBane]

2. The article says the video was payed as evidence before the court

That was essential to the prosecution and his being convicted. What you refer to as the public was the court proceeding. There is no question this was a horrific crime, but failing to play that recording could gave resulted in acquittal. You can be sure the iPad video was the best evidence prosecutors had.

[Travis_0004]

3. I kind of agree with this.

It wasn't put on the internet for everybody to see, it was shown to a jury. I would hope that the prosecution asks the vicitim first how she feels about the video being shown, but if showing the video ensures a guilty verdict, then I don't think its all bad. The biggest problem I have is the sentence being so short.

[seabeyond]

5. i wasnt referring to this OP as being on internet, but that it had me thinking.

if this got out on the net, and the girls name is on the video, then isnt it there for good. or since it seems as if this is becoming a new fad for the guys, they can do this with rapes in the future and if the name is on there then it is there forever.

my problem here, was it was not just for the jurers. it was seen by the public gallery. that sounds like people not even part of the system. i would think they would protect her more.

[BainsBane]

6. That is true, but the other aspect is

The videos end up putting them in jail. Without the videos of Steubenville, there would be no attention or effort to stop the regime of rape that thrives there. The videos definitely are a double edged sword. It's certainly understandable that you and other rape survivors are outraged at the public display of assaults. The rape survivors did nothing to be ashamed of. It us the perpetrators who deserve public scorn.

We really don't know much about the circumstances surrounding playing the tape in the British court case. We don't know if there were motions to show the video only to the jury or if that is permissible under British law.

[seabeyond]

7. yes. verbally it is really really easy to say a girl raped has nothing to be ashamed of

as the video is there for all to see.

not really gonna cut it even kinda, ever.... for any reason.

and i would think that would be forefront in addressing the issue. having a modicum of sensitivity to the victim that is on tape in her time of terror.

[BainsBane]

8. I would hope so too

But the fact a video was played in court does not make it available for all to see. We don't know the detail of the British case, given the sparse information in the article and the fact the Mail is a tabloid. If someone uploads a video online, however, that is another matter, as is the case with Steubenville. Do you really think the rape victims of Steubenville would be better off if these assaults had never come to public attention via the boys' Facebook posts? There seems to have been generations of rape there. Without disclosure, generations more would continue to be raped.

I don't have any technical expertise, but I do hope someone can remove most of the copies of the videos online.

[seabeyond]

4. sure. but this was public gallery.

it doesnt seem as if the public gallery showed be a part of something so horrific, watching the girl be raped. surely something like this could be for only the participants in their court system and not the public sitting in the gallery

[One_Life_To_Give]

9. Once it's on the web

no way to be sure it's been removed/all copies have been erased. There are some trans women who have tried to get their images off the web. No such luck. You could spend a fortune trying to get court orders in all the different potential countries the files might be transmitted and stored within.