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Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:49 PM

A Horrifying Thing Happened In Ohio. Not Being Creepy Could Prevent It From Happening Again.

http://www.upworthy.com/a-horrifying-thing-happened-in-ohio-not-being-creepy-could-prevent-it-from-happe?c=ufb1

TRIGGER WARNING: Rape. Last August, at least two members of the acclaimed Steubenville, Ohio, high school football team raped a 16-year-old classmate who had passed out drunk at a party. Fed up with the community of Steubenville, particularly the football community, for closing ranks around the girl's rapists to insist that the boys and their friends did nothing wrong and that the victim was the one to blame, an anonymous group recently released an incredibly disturbing video taken after the night of the party, in which her rapists call themselves "the rape crew" and laugh about what they did that night while referring to the girl as "dead" and "so raped." Don't worry, that's not the video I've embedded below, although, fair warning, clips from it do appear.

This video is one of the most comprehensive and thorough responses I've seen to what happened in Steubenville. I just wish we lived in a world where it didn't need to exist. This is not the first time something like this has happened, but if you jump to 2:00, the blame is placed exactly where it needs to be, and at 4:30, you'll find out why teaching boys how not to be creepy could help prevent things like this from happening again. There's something important you definitely don't want to forget at 6:58, and make sure you watch from 7:26 onward before leaving comments.

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Reply A Horrifying Thing Happened In Ohio. Not Being Creepy Could Prevent It From Happening Again. (Original post)
redqueen Jan 2013 OP
1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #1
seabeyond Jan 2013 #3
seabeyond Jan 2013 #2
dballance Jan 2013 #4
CrispyQ Jan 2013 #5
bench scientist Jan 2013 #6
ismnotwasm Jan 2013 #7
Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #8
ismnotwasm Jan 2013 #9
Whisp Jan 2013 #10

Response to redqueen (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:52 PM

1. posted to for later viewing.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #1)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:07 PM

3. you gotta watch later. so good. nt

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Response to redqueen (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:07 PM

2. i fell in love with this man. fuckin fell in love.

wow. good for him. now

i will get on the reading and check out the various sights ect...

thanks redq. this was just fuckin awesome. every bit.

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Response to redqueen (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:33 PM

4. The Whole Culture of Football in this Country Is Out of Control

We saw it with Penn State and how coaches and administrators up to the President of the university covered up wrong doing to protect the football program. The football players at most schools are elevated to the level of gods. I know that was certainly true in my high school. And in a college that I attended where the football team was the most losing team in the conference they were still treated as gods. They had the audacity to actually win the home coming game my senior year and rob themselves of the title of most losing team EVER in the conference. After four years of consistently losing every game.

How many other Sanduskys and Stubenvilles are out there we don't about? They get covered up every day. The war on women is not just a political meme. It is a fact. For as long as our country has been a society women have been treated as less worthy than men. As property, as chattel. Unfortunately we still seem to do that today. When a woman is that drunk you don't drag her from party to party. You care for her. That is a basic human thing to do. You worry about if she is in medical trouble and perhaps call 911. How we have devolved to the point people don't do that scares me. I was in a fraternity. We would NEVER NEVER done such a thing to a women. We would have cared for her, try to make sure she hydrated and if needed called 911 even if it would get us in deep trouble with the university. A person's life is too important.

Her clothes were too sexy or she acted provocatively. That would never be said of males and yes males do get raped. Unless you are a priest in the Roman Catholic church and of course you'd say it about those alter boys you abused it would be out of the ordinary.

We cannot and should not eliminate football programs. But in addition to making them gods we should make them expect that as those gods we have a higher level of behavior standard for them. Something people could look up to.

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Response to redqueen (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2013, 12:56 PM

5. Worth the 8 minutes.

kick.

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Response to redqueen (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2013, 02:37 PM

6. that was excellent

everyone should watch it.

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Response to redqueen (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2013, 05:23 PM

7. Incredible

Thank you

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Response to redqueen (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2013, 06:31 PM

8. Good Piece.

Anyone who isn't familiar with John Scalzi's work- should check him out. I crossed paths with him before he was famous, even- cutting teeth in Southern California. He's quite the accomplished writer and unapologetically outspoken progressive, along with fellow Alum Josh Marshall.

One small piece of unintended irony; the guy in the video mentions that "a Priest would never try to say that victims of child molestation somehow asked for it"- Oy, Vey. The lesson here is, never underestimate the Brain Trusts coming out of the Vatican:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/31/nyregion/in-interview-the-rev-benedict-groeschel-says-abuse-victims-can-be-seducers.html

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Response to Warren DeMontague (Reply #8)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 12:25 AM

9. I haven't read him yet

Although he's been on my radar. I was planning on starting with 'Old Mans War' which sound pretty good.

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Response to redqueen (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 09:43 PM

10. Thanks for posting this.

What an incredible young man. He is very good at getting the message out clearly.

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