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boston bean

(36,220 posts)
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 07:54 PM Dec 2012

How feminism caused Sandy Hook, according to the right

Those on the right who would blame the tragedy on anything but guns see women as the problem -- not the heroes

The dogged wish of many on the right to make the tragic Sandy Hook shooting about anything but guns means that it has to be about other things — ideally, things they already do not like. Things like feminism, abortion or anything else that contributes to the oppression of white men, of which, you’ll note, murderous rampager Adam Lanza was one. And when it came to the last point, solipsism was not limited to the right. Here, a guide to the lowlights.

Blame Obamacare and abortion. We heard, early out of the gate, from Mike Huckabee, who didn’t wait for the funerals to start blaming the liberal banishment of God from schools and government, including “tax-funded abortion pills,” by which the Personhood proponent meant birth control. “We dismiss the notion of natural law and the notion that there are moral absolutes and seemed amazed when some kids make it their own morality to kill innocent children. We diminish and even hold in contempt the natural family of a father and mother creating and then responsibly raising the next generation and then express dismay that kids feel no real connection to their families or even the concept of a family.”

If you missed it, that second sentence is a coded reference to gay marriage and abortion.

Blame our feminized culture. Despite the widely reported heroism of the all female teachers and principals at Sandy Hook elementary, it’s always a good opportunity to call out how women aren’t up to the task, according to professional self-hater Charlotte Allen. “A feminized setting is a setting in which helpless passivity is the norm,” she wrote in the lead article in a National Review package on making sense of the tragedy. “Male aggression can be a good thing, as in protecting the weak — but it has been forced out of the culture of elementary schools and the education schools that train their personnel.”


http://www.salon.com/2012/12/20/how_feminism_caused_sandy_hook_according_to_the_right/singleton/
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How feminism caused Sandy Hook, according to the right (Original Post) boston bean Dec 2012 OP
Irritatingly, the lack of male teachers is something worth talking about Recursion Dec 2012 #1
Do you have a comment on the article? boston bean Dec 2012 #2
I just made one (nt) Recursion Dec 2012 #4
Was your response meant to be similar to the quoted text in reply #5? nt boston bean Dec 2012 #6
It didn't even have to be a deflection from guns. JoeyT Dec 2012 #3
Great response... boston bean Dec 2012 #5
to charlotte allen and other clueless twits--if feminism were, in fact, as powerful as you seem niyad Dec 2012 #7
I've seen a lot of framing, and not just in regards to this, boston bean Dec 2012 #8
that, and the fact that some are secretly (and not so) worried that, if women reach equality, niyad Dec 2012 #9
ah yes! boston bean Dec 2012 #10
Blame feminism? ismnotwasm Dec 2012 #11
Pardon my candor and incredulity but... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2012 #12

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
1. Irritatingly, the lack of male teachers is something worth talking about
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 07:56 PM
Dec 2012

And, now, that discussion is closed by their idiocy for some time now...

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
3. It didn't even have to be a deflection from guns.
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 08:04 PM
Dec 2012

The right blames feminism for EVERYTHING. Feminism and secularism are their go-to bugaboos of choice.

This incident had more male aggression than it needed: The shooter.

Amanda Marcotte has an amusing take on the blaming of feminism in schools: That people insisting that feminism is to blame are demanding a matriarchy. http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/12/20/charlotte-allen-demands-matriarchy/

boston bean

(36,220 posts)
5. Great response...
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 08:07 PM
Dec 2012

thanks for linking...

Well folks, patriarchy was nice while it lasted,* but the price of shifting women into caregiving positions while letting men control the reins of power is simply too high. It means that the people who need the protection of caregivers are left vulnerable to madmen with assault weapons, instead of under the protection of those who have bulletproof powers granted by the Y chromosome. The only clear solution here is matriarchy. I’m sure gun lovers, given this new choice between their interpretation of the Second Amendment and the termination of male power and privilege, will choose the former. After all, they swear up and down their love of guns has nothing to do with a cult of masculinity, which means they’ll be eager to accept this new female-led world where men spend their days wiping asses and leading kindergartners in song. So let’s get busy and get this done before the next asshole with a gun decides to shoot up a classroom.

niyad

(113,231 posts)
7. to charlotte allen and other clueless twits--if feminism were, in fact, as powerful as you seem
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 08:16 PM
Dec 2012

to think (or fear) we wouldn't have you reichwing nutjobs interfering in our reproductive rights, we would not STILL be making 77 cents for every dollar made by men, and we wouldn't have this insane climate of woman-hating that seems to be getting uglier every single day. oh, and we would not have some idiot bishop chastising nuns for mentioning the divine feminine.

boston bean

(36,220 posts)
8. I've seen a lot of framing, and not just in regards to this,
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 08:25 PM
Dec 2012

where men are becoming impotent, ie losing their masculinity, and the closer we get to equality, the more I see this.

I hear a lot of men saying they can't be men anymore. It's code for having to give up some privilege and they don't like it.

niyad

(113,231 posts)
9. that, and the fact that some are secretly (and not so) worried that, if women reach equality,
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 08:31 PM
Dec 2012

it will somehow mean superiority, and they will end up getting treated the way they have been treating women all these centuries.

boston bean

(36,220 posts)
10. ah yes!
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 08:34 PM
Dec 2012

the matriarchy canard.

Feminists do not want to be superior. We just want equal footing... equal pay... equal rights...

ismnotwasm

(41,975 posts)
11. Blame feminism?
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 09:06 PM
Dec 2012

The most cursory look at the history of war and senseless violence shows how strange and ironic that line of thought is.


So it was all roses when women couldn't vote? Or go to school? Or died in childbirth in droves? Or could be beaten or raped legally by husbands? (For a small sample of examples)


Charlotte Allen is a creepy asshole. "Male aggression" has to be balanced against male cowardice. I'm not saying males are, but what do you measure aggression against in this context?

Males who don't 'measure up' on the aggression scale are what?









discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,479 posts)
12. Pardon my candor and incredulity but...
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:59 AM
Dec 2012

...I'd have to huff glue for a month to think that feminism had any role in causing the Sandy Hook shooting.

I'd be scratching my head til it was stump between my shoulders trying figure out the bizarre reasoning it would take to even think of that as a possibility. Einstein did say (paraphrasing) that the only two things that are truly infinite are the universe and human stupidity and that he's not quite sure about the universe.

I'm just going to assume that thought was discovered as graffiti actually written by alien lifeforms and found by someone really crazy. Now I'm just speechless.

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