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Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:11 PM

The womans voice.

i am feeling very good about the womans voice. as a whole. united. even in groups divided, still... as a whole, as a wave across the nation and the world, i am loudly hearing the womans voice, strong, balanced, grounded, healthy.





i hadnt heard it a year ago,. not in our youth, not from most everyone else. but, along the way in the last year, i am hearing it clearly from our young women. from all women. it is very heartening.

i never thought much about it until my time on du. over the last couple years my voice inside has pushed me to speak out. always speak out. never stop, speaking out. consistently, constantly, even though it is not comfortable. even though i will be labeled, disliked, it is important to always speak out. because, though there may be the handful that continually tell me to shut up, there is going to be the one that hears me speak out, the one that needs to hear a woman speak out and gain the courage or insight to their own voice, to speak out.






the ripple that turns in to a wave.






i had never considered myself a feminist. du gave me that name. at first it was, no, no, i am not. and it was not because i disrespected the title of feminist. like limbaugh and mra create the negativity of feminism. you know, prude, anti sex, frigid and so many more. i got over that in my 20's. the reason i did not call myself, or own feminism is because i did not feel i earned it. i respected the feminist. i respected the time, and work, and education they had. i never felt, and do not today feel, that i have earned the role.

but, i accept and adopted the description of feminist. as i have with liberal. to own. (right, words do not matter, and how we define ourselves with labels have no consequence). even though in both, i do not feel entitled for different reasons. democrat, sure. i have voted democratic for decades.

but, something happened along the way a handful of months ago.

limbaugh/fluke. a young woman speaking out. and the attack of this woman.





then the male repugs attack on women

the panel of men talking to congress about the womans body






and more.....

did something to women across the nation. woke us up. i feel womens voice so strong and steady and worthy.

it feels like there is a change.

gingsberg dared to say:
“Now the perception is, yes, women are here to stay,” Ginsburg told the conference. “And when I’m sometimes asked when will there be enough and I say when there are nine, people are shocked.”

Ginsburg said that no one has “ever raised a question” when nine men were serving on the bench.

Ginsburg added that she felt “lonely” on the bench when she was the only woman on the Supreme Court after Sandra Day O’Connor retired.

“It was the wrong perception for people to see just a little woman and eight larger men,” Ginsburg told the crowd. “But now if you come to the court, we are all over the bench.”






anyway, i seem to shift to areas in the womens movement that i innately feel need stroking, attention. right now, it is honoring, accepting, speaking out for voice.... womans voice. more and more, on posts, it is the fact that a woman is speaking out. be it a public woman, a young girl, or a woman on du. it is the womans voice that has such a place in this time....

does anyone feel it. or even have a clue what i am talking about. lol. or is this one of my fuzzy posts, that people run away from.

i am into energy.... but, i do not talk about that much on du. but, this is more the place my conversation is coming from.

ah, and in the motion of energy, other energy is displaced. so whatever women are creating in energy, there will be a following reaction.

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Response to seabeyond (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:24 PM

1. No more arbitrary authority.

This is the deeper meaning of feminism and all equal-rights thinking.

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Response to seabeyond (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 09:32 PM

2. Incredible post

Thank you very much.

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Response to seabeyond (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 02:53 PM

3. 'Ginsburg said that no one has “ever raised a question” when nine men were serving on the bench.'



Maybe the swelling of women's energy is what the Mayan's were predicting.


Sometimes I wonder if rape culture is the patriarchy striking out at what it feels is a growing (& threatening) female power. Mother forbid we might go back to more egalitarian cultures where women are valued for the life givers they are, & not abused for the vulnerability that comes with that.

A good post, Sea.




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Response to CrispyQ (Reply #3)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 03:25 PM

4. Maybe the swelling of women's energy is what the Mayan's were predicting.

concept. ... lol. see, i play in this stuff. interesting speculation.

i think it absolutely is.
rape culture is the patriarchy striking out at what it feels is a growing (& threatening) female power.
i really think it is an almost definite now.

i had posted earlier somewhere.
these men fighting and struggling? they just do not know what is best for them, , and how much they will appreciate our success allowing them such freedom and the good in a woman that does not have the restrictions on her. how their life will blossom in awesome. they do not believe. i do. lol.


it really really is to their benefit.

hubby and i have such a relationship where we respect each others self. we embrace empowerment and not trying to wrestle the others power away from each other. and every year, we have more and more fun together. and marriage is so damn easy.

i want it that easy for eveyone, lol.

i am busy enough doing me. i dont have time to do my hubby. nor do i want the responsibility. and vice versa. why would a man want to exert all that effort doing another human being. instead of trusting they can do themselves so much more.

hey.... metropolitan state university of denver. know anything about it?

and i do not know why i didnt realize you were in colorado. bolder is one of my favorite places. and absolutely. i will give you a call. what, boulder an hour from denver? have dinner. sounds fun. i like to drink wine at diner. then i talk and talk. . surprise. hl can meet up with us. party time.

colorado is the state hubby and i are most focused on relocating to retire.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #4)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 11:46 AM

5. I love your whole post, Sea & I agree completely.

This right here:

i am busy enough doing me. i dont have time to do my hubby. nor do i want the responsibility. and vice versa. why would a man want to exert all that effort doing another human being.


When I was dating I could always tell the guys that wanted to control. They also could tell that I was not one they could control. It's a weird thing, that. It's too bad that when they end up with someone who they can or try to control, how much damage can be done. And if kids are involved, so sad to see the perpetuation of the authoritarian mindset.

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I don't know much about Metro except it's downtown Denver. A friend got her degree there via night classes.

I love downtown Denver, but I don't get there often. It's cool with the tall buildings & the Rockies in the background. Boulder is just awesome - about 35 minutes from downtown Denver. I am truly blessed to live in such a gorgeous area. The Flatirons provide some of the most stunning views & Long's Peak with The Sleeping Indian - I love it all! "Centennial" is one of my favorite books.

A meetup sounds fun! I like Margaritas.

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Response to CrispyQ (Reply #5)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 01:13 PM

6. the oddest thing for over a decade. i would go out with men that LOVE my independence, strength.

and it would be the first thing they would try to control. so clear and evident. i would laugh adn say, THIS is why you think i am special. and now you want me to not be.

it was that my hubby did none of that, that i figured i would try marriage.

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Response to seabeyond (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 07:31 PM

7. I love what you wrote, seabeyond, and I feel it too.

The voices are getting louder now... more and more women are speaking up and speaking out everywhere.

We are seeing it here on DU especially, and I love that it is happening.

I have felt worn down and tired lately... reading everything and not having the energy to respond. All the rape talk is hard for me and I am so very, very tired of hearing men telling women what they should think and say, and how they should think it and say it. I am so very, very tired of groups of mostly male legislators trying to push through laws to regulate my sisters' bodies. I am so very, very tired of hearing how upset men are to hear talk of rape and stopping rape.

They are tired of hearing talk about rape?

I AM TIRED OF BEING AFRAID OF BEING RAPED.

I AM TIRED OF LIVING WITH THE MEMORY OF BEING RAPED.

And they complain they are tired of hearing... talk? They are tired of thinking... they are supposed to feel "collective guilt"?

Fucking seriously???


I saw in one of these many, many recent threads someone write that the thing men are most afraid of about women is being laughed at... and the thing most women are afraid of about men is being killed.

I am so very, very tired of being afraid.

I am so very... very... tired.

From the bottom of my heart, I thank you and all the other women (and male allies) on DU who have had the energy to add their voices to the discussions lately. There have been very good discussions (even with all the attacks and attempts to derail) and I am grateful for all the beautiful voices that are speaking out and saying, "No. More."

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Response to MadrasT (Reply #7)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 07:39 PM

9. Thank you. Words fail me!

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Response to seabeyond (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 07:40 PM

8. Wow Sea, great post. nt

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