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Tue Nov 20, 2012, 09:52 AM

No more moments of silence: How do we get from ‘Take Back the Night’ to ‘Taking Down Rape Culture’?

http://www.womenundersiegeproject.org/blog/entry/no-more-moments-of-silence-how-do-we-get-from-take-back-the-night

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The era of focusing on victims needs to come to an end. It doesn’t work. We can talk all day about how the culture of rape and violence has affected our lives, we can share individual stories and we can cite statistics and while this may be informative and therapeutic it is not going to get us where we need to get. It is not strategic.

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The best way we can honor victims of these human rights abuses is to change the way we talk about perpetrators. The efforts to put a human face on the victims of crimes against women has been a success —how could it not be when so many of the fallen are connected to our own lives. But for somereason we have a hard time talking about perpetrators, their lives, where they come from, who raised them, what they learned. We know that people from all walks of life are raped. But few like to discuss how people from all walks of life are rapists. We know about the one in five who are raped or survive attempted rape, but what about the potentially one in 17 who rape?

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Let us not be fooled. It is in no way progress to be granted basic human rights. To believe so is to think from the rapist’s perspective, from the misogynist’s perspective. To be brainwashed enough to do their work for them. I think Malcolm X explained this tricky relationship to the idea of “progress” best. When asked if he thought if progress had been made in the struggle for civil rights, he said, “If you stick a knife into my back 9 inches and then you pull out 3 inches, that’s not progress.”

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I will say it again. The freedoms we foughtfor and won are not progress but corrections of massive injustice perpetrated against half the human population and still occurring across the globe. As long as there are laws and cultural practices that restrict human rights for women we are all at risk. As long as we are still fundamentally portrayed as existing for the pleasure of men we are all at risk.

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Reply No more moments of silence: How do we get from ‘Take Back the Night’ to ‘Taking Down Rape Culture’? (Original post)
redqueen Nov 2012 OP
ismnotwasm Nov 2012 #1
redqueen Nov 2012 #2
MadrasT Nov 2012 #3
ismnotwasm Nov 2012 #5
CrispyQ Nov 2012 #4
seabeyond Nov 2012 #6

Response to redqueen (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 02:21 PM

1. Get people to understand that

There IS a rape culture. Far to many People don't get it; deny it, or laugh at the idea of it.

Pointing out that women live in fear all the time albeit sometimes almost subliminal fear, doesn't seem to get through.

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Response to ismnotwasm (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 04:22 PM

2. I don't know how...

This past year there have been so many examples, and so many articles, and so many discussions.

If people are still in denial that we live in a rape culture, I have no idea how to get through to them.

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Response to redqueen (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 04:25 PM

3. Willful blindness. n/t

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Response to redqueen (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 07:35 PM

5. Women live in fear of sexual assault

All women, all ages. In may not be something they even think about much.

And people still claim not to understand it.

I don't know how either.

What I see as betrayal comes from the left. As you say, How many threads decrying the obnoxious right wing comments about rape prior to the election? Its not as if the RW doesn't include millions of people. The reason rape is such a frequent topic is because it IS a culture, and a culture that expresses itself in thousands of ways. So now it's, what, back to 'lighten up' time?

Bullshit it is.

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Response to redqueen (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 06:53 PM

4. I don't think we can back out of this.

I think we've gone too far down the rabbit hole. The culture is infused with it. The conditioning is so strong that people don't even see it. Too many women don't even see it. I think the only hope is taking down the entire patriarchy, but I don't have a clue how to do that.

I just finished two books, one non-fiction, the other fiction. Both generated thoughts of the patriarchy & how we got here. I've thought about writing more & posting, but DU is not safe for that kind of stuff. Yesterday's Playboy post with the cartoon of the non-consenting woman on one side of the chair & two consenting men on the other side & the denial of some posters to see that as promoting rape was boggling. The one poster went on how the cartoonist was a great family man. Hey, maybe he was, but can we admit that this time his work was over the top?

It's too bad forum posts land on the Latest page. That's my least favorite thing about DU3.


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Response to CrispyQ (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 08:21 PM

6. when i get back from trip, i am going to look at t thread addressing this. how i am seeing it laid

out and where we are and why. and how much it is today, and has little to do with yesterday.

you read the bestest books. is it one i want. one you want to do an op on. ????

ya ya ... hard to do, i know.

i read lots and lots. but, not what i am gonna talk about on du. but, they are fun.

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