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Thu Nov 1, 2012, 12:16 AM

 

Canadian government make it illegal to wear masks while protesting

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Facial recognition worries, anybody?

Anon GovernmentWatch ‏@Anon_GovWatchCA

"@sarilys13: guess what harper did!!! http://www.radio-canada.ca/nouvelles/National/2012/10/31/001-masque-loi-vote.shtml it's illegal to wear a mask in a illigal protest now 5~10 yrs jail" #cdnpoli


Edit: Factor in the recent victory of the Quebec student movement with their casseroles pots and pans demonstrations and it becomes a bit clearer. Quebec passed Bill 78 which made protesting illegal. This caused more people to join the students, who were at it for well over 100 days. When the new government came in, they eliminated Bill 78 as well as the 80% tuition increase (over five years) against which the students had protested. Satisfied, they have now turned their attention upon Harper, the despot who is ruining Canada.

They want to jail the organizers and leaders.

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RT ‏@RT_com

Mask avengers: Canadian protesters to show faces or get 10 years in jail

http://on.rt.com/p1n87m

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fr0g5 ‏@frogsarelovely

@anonhive @net_anon In a protest few weeks back. They give $494.00 tickets for everything. It's hell. They are trying to squash.
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7m fr0g5 fr0g5 ‏@frogsarelovely

@anonhive @net_anon Most of our protests are declared illegal before they start. Cops do what they want. 2 woman were arrested for singing
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fr0g5 ‏@frogsarelovely

@Net_Anon @anonhive It just gives cops total discretion. We know what that means. Abuse, abuse and more abuse.
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Reply Canadian government make it illegal to wear masks while protesting (Original post)
Fire Walk With Me Nov 2012 OP
TheMastersNemesis Nov 2012 #1
MADem Nov 2012 #2
Kalidurga Nov 2012 #3
Scootaloo Nov 2012 #4
Fire Walk With Me Nov 2012 #6
Scootaloo Nov 2012 #9
Fire Walk With Me Nov 2012 #10
applegrove Nov 2012 #5
Fire Walk With Me Nov 2012 #7
Joe Shlabotnik Nov 2012 #8

Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)

Thu Nov 1, 2012, 12:17 AM

1. The Right Wing Seems To Be Infecting Canada As Well.

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)

Thu Nov 1, 2012, 12:23 AM

2. Well, you don't have to have an interest in theater to learn how to apply whiteface.

I never understood why more people didn't do that little Guy Fawkes representation they like so much with theater make-up. It would be more comfortable than a sweaty mask and, if applied correctly, it can fool that facial recognition software.

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)

Thu Nov 1, 2012, 01:21 AM

3. Wear your mask on the back of your head...

It drives the local PDs nuts.

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)

Thu Nov 1, 2012, 01:35 AM

4. I'm going to play the other side here...

Anonymity is counter-productive to public speech. The whole idea has always been, "I am me, and I stand behind this cause, and will stand in public to proclaim it." Disguising yourself prevents your audience from verifying your credibility and person; maybe it's really you. Maybe it's someone else entirely wearing the same disguise, who can tell?

Now, perhaps if there's a real chance that you wpuld lose your life over being identified - such as hte colonial-era pamphleteers, or dissenters in a violent dictatorship - then sure, protecting your personal identity is prudent. But despite the polemics, we're very far from that, and Canda certainly is.

The trouble is, the concept of "protest" has been infected by this leftover "counter-culture" horse-shit from the 60's and 70's, where waving puppets around and dressing up in funny hats has taken over the concept of exercising speech for a cause. That yippy dumbassery has made street theater and "turnout" more important than actual content and action, and is a major reason why protest is largely pointless in this day and age - a bunch of dumbfucks show up and start a "free Tibet" drum circle while wearing uncle sam outfits and it just clogs the whole thing down.

Of course, the idea of jail sentences for shooting yourself in the foot by wearing a dumb fucking mask while showing off (no, you're not protesting, you're posing) is pretty damn ludicrous as well. Two stupids don't make a smart.

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Response to Scootaloo (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 1, 2012, 02:04 AM

6. My comment regarding facial recognition was serious.

 

When Anonymous hacked the intelligence agency Stratfor, it was learned that corporations etc. keep files on activists, and more, beyond simple police worries and DHS fusion center fears.

In Los Angeles, there is a Special Order 1 which makes LAPD a tentacle for the DHS. They even have pamphlets and cards featuring the phrase, "See something, say something". Any records cops have of activists, and because of DHS following Occupy from day 1, you can bet they have them, are loaded up into Federal levels. One person in NYC IIRC while being brought into jail after an Occupy arrest, saw briefly a board in the police station with pics of Occupiers, cross-referencing, etc. Doubtless this exists electronically. \\

http://stoplapdspying.org/

Lt. Paulson, who has been present at or organizing some LAPD assaults upon Occupy LA, is responsible for Special Order 1 as well. Things begin to tie together...

Add in facial recognition and you'll know that if you've been active in activism over the last year, you're in a system on a list, or several. The FBI have broken into apartments searching for "literature", etc. The FBI is after Occupy, among other organizations. Same old tricks they've pulled against civil and social movements for years.

When some SoCal Occupations, Code Pink, and Veterans marched against Raytheon and a few other military-industrial complex war profiteers, there were even at least one watcher on a building rooftop, and -several- who took video from both a distance and while driving right up on the group. They are collecting data and it would be a damn good idea to keep yourself anonymous while protesting. Video (by 5 minutes you'll have the idea)

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Reply #6)

Thu Nov 1, 2012, 03:34 AM

9. Then it's something to confront, not hide from. n/t

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Response to Scootaloo (Reply #9)

Thu Nov 1, 2012, 01:47 PM

10. I'll compromise with you at "confront safely" :)

 

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)

Thu Nov 1, 2012, 01:54 AM

5. I thought it said 'cannot wear a mask when involved in a riot' on the news.

I'm not partial to black blocs anyhow.

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Response to applegrove (Reply #5)

Thu Nov 1, 2012, 02:10 AM

7. Police and media call anything they don't like, a "riot".

 

This is an extremely slippery slope, and although anonymity is a black bloc tactic, it is not an "if/then" for violence. Anonymity is a tactic, and considering the ugliness of our enemies, a very good one.

Everyone knows about section 1021 in the NDAA, correct? Indefinite detention without trial or lawyer if you are suspected of being a terrorist or aiding them or even being connected...and I believe a DOJ report classified protesting as low-level terrorism. These are the days of 64 drone bases on US soil, of militarized police, of Federal-level spying upon citizens.

And if someone is an undercover cop, acting weirdly or being violent, step away from them immediately. Call them out. Fuck police agents provacateurs.

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)

Thu Nov 1, 2012, 03:24 AM

8. It will be found to be unconstituional in no time.

It's basically the same law as bill 78, that Quebec legal experts and Charest's own legal council warned him was not worth the paper it was written on. Just like Harper's mandatory minimum sentencing laws which are already getting shredded as cruel and unusual punishment, this law will be killed eventually too.

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