Cops are raping black women and killing unarmed black men and women, yet...

[JaneyVee]

Last edited Fri Dec 11, 2015, 03:03 AM - Edit history (1)

you're threatening to not vote if your preferred candidate isn't on the ballot?

How....privileged.

By the way, f**k you Daniel Holtzclaw.

ETA - the inspiration:
https://mobile.twitter.com/repjohnlewis/status/646362466583191552

[mwrguy]

1. +1000

[Sheepshank]

214. Agreed....say it and rec it!!! n/t

[Kalidurga]

2. Well that's how this thing works

Candidates must earn the vote. Unless you just want to go straight to the crowning.

[JaneyVee]

8. What are you even talking about?

[Kalidurga]

37. What do you think we should do about ISIL?

[JaneyVee]

57. Please, no questions about ISIL.

[Kalidurga]

128. Unless we are talking to the AA community amirightoramiright

[HerbChestnut]

3. What on earth??

[ibegurpard]

5. this poster

Likes to lecture about privilege while she wanders around rhe most expensive piece of real estate on earth...posting to DU on her smartphone and speculating about her post-retirement political career.

[JaneyVee]

7. And you follow me around. So what does that say about you?

How about a rec, or do you disagree with my post? You know nothing about me. You couldn't have lasted a day in my shoes growing up.

[ibegurpard]

18. it says I want to be sure people know

Who it is they might be considering listening to. Do you enjoy tromping around Manhattan where the people you claim to care about were forced out to make room for armies of yuppies? And then deign to lecture the rest of us about privilege?

[JaneyVee]

21. Tromping?

And by the way, I was forced out of my Brooklyn neighborhood because trust fund socialists took over and caused our rents to skyrocket. Again, I grew up soul crushingly poor and you wouldn't have lasted a day in my shoes.

[ibegurpard]

28. Well it appears you traded up

[JaneyVee]

35. My rent is lower in Manhattan. That's the irony.

Socialists turned my blue collar middle class neighborhood into a fucking art gallery. And don't get me wrong, I love art gallery's, but I'm not paying $4300 a month in rent to live in one. The trust fund socialists destroyed my neighborhood through gentrification.

[ibegurpard]

53. Go buy some new shoes at Bergdorf Goodman's

You'll feel better.

[JaneyVee]

55. You mad bro?

[AlbertCat]

58. a fucking art gallery.

Who needs those things?!

Quality in life is so overrated.....

[JaneyVee]

88. I get into nearly all the one's in Manhattan for free as a resident.

And my rent is nearly 1/3rd less here.

[AlbertCat]

116. I get into nearly all the one's in Manhattan for free as a resident.

Do you make a contribution? Even the Met asks for one....

!/3 less than they suggest?

[Scootaloo]

130. "Socialists turned my blue-collar neighborhood into an art gallery!"

Oh, I just gotta hear the story on this one

Already a great title for a 1962 pulp thriller.

[beam me up scottie]

139. Oh come on, this is a serious CONCERN thread. It's all about the VICTIMS.

Like Janey, who's obviously been traumatized by socialists!

[Scootaloo]

140. And their... art galleries

[beam me up scottie]

142. Performance art. Or a poe. Can't tell for sure yet.

But it sure is entertaining once they let the mask slip.

It's all about MEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

[JackBeck]

146. I hope none of these socialists were feminists for Hillary:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=891263

[Armstead]

204. It isn't socialist who gentrify -- It's capitalists

[HerbChestnut]

216. Trust fund socialists...

Bit of an oxymoron there don't you think?

[Scootaloo]

103. GD:P ain't a big neighborhood, you know

So you're gonna see a lot of the same people replying to you. And your post is execrable, you are exploiting the rape of women, and the murder of men, women and children, to make a grandstanding point about people you argue with on the internet.

Wanna compare hard-knock lives, JaneyVee? Really? nah, you don't, don't try.

[JaneyVee]

111. Actually, this was my entire point right here:

https://mobile.twitter.com/repjohnlewis/status/646362466583191552

And I have no idea what you mean by "compare hard knock lives".

[Scootaloo]

114. Your entire point is well-contained in the OP

You are using the rape of these women to "score points" against people you disagree with on the internet. That's pretty gross, JaneyVee.

[JaneyVee]

117. No, that is completely in your own head. Own it.

Because I sure as hell am not.

[Scootaloo]

120. Yeah. You are. Re-read your OP.

Use those two degrees in accounting you've got to put two and two together. You are using raped women as props for your argument against people you disagree with on the internet.

And as we see downthread, you are FURTHER exploiting them to shield yourself from criticism.

You need to stop. Seriously, shut off the computer, unplug it, step back, and read a damn book or watch a movie. Get some sleep. Something, cause you're just over the top here.

[beam me up scottie]

122. "You are using raped women as props"

[cherokeeprogressive]

220. Is unhinged.

[ibegurpard]

4. you just told me yesterday yourself

That people of color say this is the best era for them to be alive.

[JaneyVee]

6. You are so tone deaf that it is cringe-worthy.

You can't even stay on topic and you just distort what people say. Whatever point you are trying to make following me around and adding nothing to the conversation I can assure you not only is not working, it's making you look bad.

[ibegurpard]

10. what looks bad

Is your disgusting day-to-day selective outrage.

[JaneyVee]

12. Mmm hmm.

Whatever you say.

[Sheepshank]

215. do you have any idea how your responses on this thread are coming across?

are you really *that* upset, that petty and even envious that someone has an opinion, and that someone is a Democrat and that same someone lives in Manhattan and can afford nice shoes? OMFG!!!!

[beam me up scottie]

141. You're exploiting raped victims and you're telling someone else they "look bad"?

[JaneyVee]

144. You don't have to keep kicking it, I'll give it a kick later.

[beam me up scottie]

147. Rape victims who you are using to bash liberals, like Fox News does when they need ratings.

[JaneyVee]

151. Bash liberals?

You really turned this into liberals being victims?

[beam me up scottie]

155. The women who were raped are the victims, you are using them to bash liberals.

Just like the right wing exploits minority victims whenever they need to up their ratings.

You're not the first one to come up with this idea you know.

[JaneyVee]

159. Bash liberals?

I am a liberal. Where are you getting these thoughts from?

[beam me up scottie]

164. "I am a liberal." Reminder: That's your opinion

Anyone who would exploit black women who were raped by a cop while also complaining about how her neighborhood was "destroyed" by "trust fund socialists" isn't a liberal.

Imo.

[Ken Burch]

9. You assume YOUR preferred candidate will do something about that-

-after years of running as the "Support Your Local Police" candidate.

[JaneyVee]

11. Did I mention a candidate? Do you disagree with my post?

And "support the police"? She supports the FDNY/first responders. The police haven't liked her since she called the cops who killed Amadou Diallo "murderers".

[morningfog]

14. You didn't mention a candidate and I can't figure out why you posted this in GDP.

[JaneyVee]

19. Where should posts about voting go, creative speculation?

[morningfog]

25. If it is not about the Democratic Primary it goes in GD. The rule is simple.

[artislife]

65. GD--not primary. surprised this isn't locked

[JaneyVee]

92. But HA Goodman's list of 10 reasons his rightwinger ass isn't voting for Hillary....

You welcome with open arms in GDP? What next, Daily Paul articles?

[beam me up scottie]

112. You have the nerve to complain about sources after you linked to Stormfront?

Another despicable post you made to score points, associating a Jewish candidate with a neo-Nazi hate group:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=486255

[JaneyVee]

123. This again?

Your favorite thread derailment tactic. Carry on.

[beam me up scottie]

125. When you complain about HA Goodman and call him a right wing source?

Hell yeah I'm going to point out the staggering hypocrisy.

Especially when you're exploiting rape victims.

[Ken Burch]

20. She helped build the DLC.

They pushed the Democratic Party to become indistinguishable on "law and order&quot i.e., to be cool with whatever the hell the cops wanted to do, especially with PoC). Her comments on the killing of Amadou Diallo, while appropriate, were way late in the game.

Agree with you on Holtzclaw...as does everybody here, I assume.

[JaneyVee]

24. Yeah ok.

Now you're way off topic. This may be an inconvenient truth for you, but guess who was pushing the hardest for more policing? The congressional black caucus. No one wanted to live in high crime areas. Mayors and community leaders said "enough".

[Ken Burch]

33. More policing didn't HAVE to be "broken windows" and "zero tolerance", though.

It's not as though the ONLY possible way to fight crime was to bust people in poor neighborhoods and neighborhoods of color for trivial offenses like loitering, or to rough up EVERYBODY at the crime scenes, even the witnesses and at times the victims(as was happening in cities like Baltimore).

Or to use "kill first, ask questions later" engagement policies like the won used to justify the murder of a twelve year old in Cleveland.

You can fight crime and respect people's rights, can still give everybody the presumption of innocence.

The fight for drug legalization comes, at least in part, out of the realization that much of the crime, and much of the criminal response to those crimes, came out of the "drug war" that our party aided and abetter out of cowardice. If we had done what we should have done and treated drugs as a social issue, rather than a domestic military intervention, BLM would probably not have to exist(and, among other things, Gore would have carried not only Florida but his own home state.

This happens over and over...some sort of "law and order" fever takes place, everybody in politics is too gutless to stand up to it, a lot of people who did nothing really all that wrong get harassed, beaten, falsely arrested, or killed...and then, twenty years later, a few lame apologies are made when it's too late to matter. Embalm, bury, repeat.

[JaneyVee]

36. It creeped up to that.

It was in response to the remarkably high violent crime rates of the 90s. And now we find ourselves today desperately needing criminal justice reform. Which won't happen under a President Trump. This op is not about the primaries, it is about the privileged ones who threaten not to vote if their preferred nominee is not on the ballot. I am not one of them. Are you?

[Ken Burch]

51. No I'm not. And I've said I'm not over and over again. n/t.

[artislife]

66. You aren't even in the right forum.

[JaneyVee]

71. You came into a thread about racial injustice to...

Complain that I may have inconveniently posted it in the wrong forum?

[artislife]

78. Yes.

As a Latina, I will note your concern...in this OP on this day...in the wrong forum. It should be locked.

[JaneyVee]

83. This is too important to be locked and discarded.

As a half latina myself.

[artislife]

118. BS.

[JaneyVee]

119. BS what?

What are you calling BS on?

[artislife]

126. The importance of your OP.

If it were really important and not flame bait, it would be in the proper forum and there would have been a thoughtful piece written.


Just because you wrote it, doesn't make it magical.

[JaneyVee]

133. Oh ok. Thanks for the important advice for next time.

[artislife]

134. I have never alerted

But maybe a host should know that this doesn't follow the guidelines for this forum and with your thousands of posts, you know this. Will you be the one to break my streak?


Quite possibly.

Here are the rules..

Are you posting something about the Democratic presidential primaries?
New discussion threads about the Democratic primaries must be posted in the General Discussion: Primaries forum. All other threads may be posted in the General Discussion forum (please be aware that there are certain other restrictions on what can be posted in the General Discussion forum).

[JaneyVee]

137. The concept of voting seems very much within the guidelines...

Of GDP. Vote. Because the crazy people on the right definitely are. And they sure as hell don't care about criminal justice reform.

[Scootaloo]

131. Moving on up to victim-blaming, I see.

[artislife]

136. 131 replies and still only 5 recs. nt

[artislife]

138. One of the recs is hers!! lol

[beam me up scottie]

143. Janey rec'd her own thread? Can you say Desperate?

[artislife]

148. Yes, and I will prove it

Desperate.

[beam me up scottie]

152. Lol! This thread needs more videos, less sleaze: Desperate - Cyanide & Happiness Shorts

[artislife]

156. My favorite Hugh Laurie Christmas greeting

[beam me up scottie]

163. LOL! Here's a little something by Tim Minchin:

You should stop by the A&A group and chat.

[artislife]

171. Hee...it's midnight..gotta get up in the morning!

[beam me up scottie]

173. "guess who was pushing the hardest for more policing? The congressional black caucus."

Jesus Christ, now it's their fault?

Explotation of rape victims, blaming the victims of racist cops and whinging about your upscale neighborhood - all in the same thread.

It's a right wing trifecta!

[morningfog]

13. And Hillary still supports the Mayor of Chicago, where much of this is has come to a head.

Talk about tone dead and not caring.

[JaneyVee]

16. Did I mention a candidate? Do you disagree with my post?

Bernie voted for the 1994 crime bill, Hillary did not.

[Ken Burch]

22. Not a valid distinction. She wasn't Congress to vote on it at the time. n/t.

[morningfog]

26. You didn't mention a candidate and I don't understand your post.

What is the point you are trying to make? And how does it relate to the Democratic primary?

[JaneyVee]

32. You didn't understand it, yet...

You decided to just start bashing a candidate?

Do you agree with my post?

[morningfog]

38. I don't understand it.

I assume this has something to do with the dem candidates, since you posted in GDP.

Only one dem candidate has stood behind Rahm Emmanuel. The AA activist are putting every effort into ousting him. She's on the wrong side. That is not a bash, it is truth. Bernie has called for him to go. Hillary has given her confidence and support.

You brought this issue to GDP. You must have wanted to discuss the candidates' positions.

[JaneyVee]

41. Hillary has been talking about BLM before Bernie even thought about running.

She has been building coalitions in the black community since before Bernie ever set foot outside Vermont. Again, this op isn't about any candidates. I'm sure you can find a hundred other threads to talk trash on. Do you disagree with anything in my op?

[AlbertCat]

64. Hillary has been talking about BLM before Bernie even thought about running.

So?

Sanders was championing civil rights when Hillary was a Young Repug.

But what's this time line thing anyway? It just means she hasn't done anything but talk about it longer. Is she still waiting for "them" to tell her what to do? Is she still evolving?

[kath]

70. Bullshit. It took her WEEKS to say a word about Michael Brown's killing and the aftermath in

Ferguson.

[Live and Learn]

160. +1000 nt

[morningfog]

180. I disagree with this post. Hillary talking about BLM is meaningless.

She needs to listsen to BLM, not support the overseer and protector of cops who murder black men and women.

[TM99]

183. Hillary supported her husband's agreement with that bill

which by the way was voted on by Sanders because as odious as aspects were it also included the Violence Against Women Act and several other very important pieces of legislation.

It was an omnibus bill which can include both good and bad, and a Senator must way them against it each other.

So stop with this fucking lie because had he voted against it you would be railing that he was not good enough for women because he voted against the VAWA.

[daleanime]

15. What's the matter?

Afraid that there might be a bridge or two that haven't been burned down yet? Go get some sleep, you can try to juice up more hate tomorrow. Have a lovely night.

[JaneyVee]

17. Mature.

Did I strike a nerve?

[daleanime]

43. Why?

Upset because you didn't? Try again later, I slowly learning that there doesn't seem to be a bottom for you. No sense in holding it against you, I'll just remember how little value your words have. But please continue the projection, I can always use a good laugh when I get up. Sleep tight, don't let the scary, evil, socialist bugs bit.

[JaneyVee]

44. You make no sense.

Nothing you have posted even remotely resembles anything this op is about. You sure like telling people what to do and posting emoji's though, so there's that.

[WillyT]

23. And You Think HILLARY Is Gonna Fix That ???

You might want to get in touch with others...

[JaneyVee]

30. Criminal justice reform? Absolutely.

President Trump sure as hell wouldn't.

[WillyT]

34. Janey... Seriously... I Know Trump Wouldn't... But Bernie Has Been There For YEARS !!!

[JaneyVee]

39. He voted for the 1994 crime bill, and against gun control...

And guess what? I still like Bernie. I don't hold politicians up on a pedestal. I believe my candidate is better equipped to lead our nation, you believe your candidate is. But this op is actually not about any specific candidate.

[AlbertCat]

74. He voted for the 1994 crime bill, and against gun control...

It's not 1994.

And he voted against a lousy gun control bill.

"But this op is actually not about any specific candidate."

No.... It's just trying to shame people into voting for someone they might not want to vote for.

[JaneyVee]

77. No. It's about privilege.

Something apparently some here just do not want to acknowledge.

[AlbertCat]

79. No. It's about privilege.

Then maybe you should rewrite it so it actually looks like what you apparently say it's about.

[jeff47]

209. Why should Sanders have voted against the Violence Against Women Act?

You do realize that 1994 bill had more than one thing in it, right?

So why should Sanders have voted against the Violence Against Women Act? It was also in that bill.

[WillyT]

40. Care To Comment On This...

DUlink: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251892231

[JaneyVee]

42. Sure.

That's awful and austerity sucks for Greece.

Do you disagree with my op? Care to comment on that?

[WillyT]

45. Wow... Your Concern For Other Country's Women... I Underwhelming...

G'Night... Feminism at it's best, I guess.

[JaneyVee]

46. Says the guy who has yet to comment on this op.

But I'm supposed to give you a thesis at 1 am?

[ibegurpard]

47. Oh she'll have an OP about it tomorrow

If she can find a way to try to score political points with it.

[JaneyVee]

49. There you go again.

[joshcryer]

27. You need to relax about the throwaway voters.

The Libertarian get more throwaways every year than the Greens.

Unless the Greens run a credible candidate (other than Jill Stein) you can relax.

I agree though that people who feel it is OK to just go the purist route are privileged.

[cui bono]

29. What kind of fucked up post is this?

.

[JaneyVee]

31. A post of hope and unity.

Which is why no candidates were named. Which part do you disagree with?

[beam me up scottie]

61. Well isn't it obvious? Bernie supporters don't care about rape victims.

Oh but this isn't meta or anything, it's genuine concern for those poor women.

Who are now being exploited by a Hillary supporter.

And we're the bad guys.

[artislife]

129. 5 recs and over 100 responses...half of them by the OP writer...

She seems to be trying to make "fetch" happen.

[JaneyVee]

149. Yeah because the amount of recs is what's really important.

[artislife]

150. So important that you rec'd it yourself

and now have two people who cannot post adding their recs.

This is still in the wrong forum.

[JaneyVee]

154. Yeah I went through all that trouble of clicking a button.

[artislife]

158. Silly...

[Skwmom]

48. Using those atrocities to push people to vote for a candidate is disgusting.

But considering the silence about Chicago I am not surprised.

[JaneyVee]

50. Voting rights are also under attack.

And I didn't name a candidate.

[Dawson Leery]

52. kick.

Trumpfuhrer wants to further empower cops.

[beam me up scottie]

54. Now you're exploiting rape victims to score points in GDP?

Well I wish I could say I was surprised but I'm not.

Disgusted but not surprised.

Congratulations, just when I thought you couldn't sink any lower.




And of course the hosts won't lock this meta bullshit because it's from a Hillary supporter.

If a Bernie supporter posted this garbage the alert swarms would be all over it.

[JaneyVee]

60. It's weird that you would even think that.

Voting rights are under attack as well.

[beam me up scottie]

62. Your op makes me sick to my stomach.

You're not fooling anyone.

[JaneyVee]

67. It should, it's disgusting what is going on, but...

We may be able to change course on these problems and make a real difference. Criminal justice reform is desperately needed.

[beam me up scottie]

72. No, what's disgusting is exploiting rape victims to score points.

The link to Stormfront was bad enough but this is truly vile.

[JaneyVee]

75. No, what's disgusting is that your own mind went there.

"Exploiting rape victims to score points"

WTF.

How do you even know you aren't responding to a rape victim right now? You can't just go around making things up about people that only exists in your head.

[beam me up scottie]

76. Because this is a forum for discussion about primaries - not divisive meta about supporters.

You don't get to imply people don't care about rape victims because they disagree with your candidate of choice.

That is exploitation.

[JaneyVee]

82. I. Didn't. Mention. Any. Candidate.

This op is about privilege, not politics. And certainly not about exploitation.

[LostOne4Ever]

84. Are you saying this OP is not about the Primary candidates? nt

[beam me up scottie]

85. Then. Why. Is. This. In. GDP.

If this was about your obvious distress and concern that others vote you would have put it in GD.

You're. Not. Fooling. Anyone.

[JaneyVee]

86. Reminder: That's your opinion.

[beam me up scottie]

87. Are you really claiming this isn't about Bernie?

[JaneyVee]

89. ...

[beam me up scottie]

91. "A forum for general discussion of the Democratic presidential primaries."

A forum for general discussion of the Democratic presidential primaries. Disruptive meta-discussion is forbidden.

JaneyVee (14,903 posts)

82. I. Didn't. Mention. Any. Candidate.

This op is about privilege, not politics. And certainly not about exploitation.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=892760

[JaneyVee]

93. And this makes you mad?

Why?

[beam me up scottie]

96. Because people who exploit victims to score points on DU are the worst kind of opportunists.

[JaneyVee]

100. Reminder: That's your opinion.

By the way, how many times have you tossed around the words "dead Iraqi's" to smear Hillary?

[beam me up scottie]

102. When discussing the Iraq war vote the victims are relevant.

You're abusing those women to score points against Bernie's supporters.

What happened to them has nothing to do with GDP.

[artislife]

68. I have to agree with you on this.

[beam me up scottie]

73. Nothing this one does surprises me anymore.

Shame on the hosts for not locking this, it has nothing to do with the primaries.

[artislife]

80. I think she has OP Privilege.

Lolz

[beam me up scottie]

81. She has some kind of privilege.

[JaneyVee]

97. No one has yet commented on the op.

Do you disagree with any of it?

[artislife]

106. This isn't the correct forum. nt

[Juicy_Bellows]

95. Absolutely.

I think a passive ignore may be the best move. I can't tell you how many times I get two paragraphs out and then just decide not to post.

[beam me up scottie]

99. Reminds me of Fox News shows where they whip out token victims whenever they need to bash liberals.

You know, for being too soft on crime, because only THEY care about the poor wimmen/children/minorities.

So transparent.

[Juicy_Bellows]

104. Who has that many token victims on the ready?

After awhile they just lose all credibility. It's insane. We got some folks with quite a bit of cash advocating conservative economics and at the same time espousing that 250k a year ain't that much in their villa.

I apologize, this probably doesn't belong here but I just wanted to slap the keys for a moment.

[beam me up scottie]

107. Yep, they're third way and to the right on every issue including social justice.

Which is obvious by the way they post about victims of both crimes and the economy, like they're chattel.

Excellent rant, not O/T at all.

[Juicy_Bellows]

127. Well thanks for replying. Chattel indeed.

I can't wait until IA and NH results are in and we can join Lionel on the ceiling.

[beam me up scottie]

132. Blast from the past! Good idea, might as well post something to make this thread less sleazy:

[AlbertCat]

56. Sorry....

...... I don't get how voting for whom I think will do the best job is antithetical to this notion.

[cosmicone]

59. If you won't let me play, I'm taking the ball home

That is the mentality we are encountering.

Fortunately, a vast majority of Bernie supporters are not like that and will support the eventual nominee. I have no quarrel with those who are passionately supporting Bernie, a good man and qualified candidate but are not trying to cut Hillary down with right-wing smears.

It is just a small minority amongst the Bernie supporters who are not nice and are probably not even democrats.

[JaneyVee]

63. JUST FOR YOU:

https://mobile.twitter.com/repjohnlewis/status/646362466583191552

You get it.

[cosmicone]

69. Thank you! n/t

[jfern]

90. Turnout will be lower if the nominee doesn't give people a reason to vote

[Truprogressive85]

94. How dare you

Daniel Holtzclaw is serial rapist who will rot in jail and the countless other pigs are not elected official , they are of terrorist organization know as the law enforcement.


You wanna know privilege When a corrupt mayor who hide a video for 400 days , and the so called front runner gives her confidence in that mayor
You wanna know privilege When a Governor who endorsed the so called front runner, yet was the same Governor that called the national guard on protesters

[JaneyVee]

105. "terrorist organization known as the law enforcement"

Do you even listen to yourself? Jeez, my cousin is a cop. He's the nicest guy in the world. He spent all last weekend feeding the homeless with his Kiwanis organization. Of course there are horrible awful cops, and of course we need criminal justice reform, but we don't need over the top hyperbole. We need serious policy.

[Truprogressive85]

113. That great for your cousin but guess what

as a black man who never felt safe around cops sorry to tell you I do not view cops in a favorable light

Because those so called good cops never step up when the bad cops do harm.

[JaneyVee]

115. I agree. Policing and criminal justice reform need serious change.

I am with you that point 100%. Police forces across America have a lot of work to do to earn back trust.

[Truprogressive85]

121. Do you ?

Until cops are held accountable for their actions present and past there will never be trust

not just indictments, not just jail time but total revamps for the law enforcement department throughout America

[JaneyVee]

124. I do.

[artislife]

108. ^^ this nt

[Warren DeMontague]

98. "the war on drugs has been a failure"

surely any candidate worth voting for... worth preferring.. should be able to say those words, especially given the reality that many of the abuses you mention take place under the cover of that misguided social policy.

Wouldn't you agree?

[Scootaloo]

101. Can you say "exploitation," boys and girls?

[artislife]

110. It is pretty slimy....nt

[Truprogressive85]

109. This is the shit that allows killer cops off the hook

400 days !!!

Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton says she still has confidence in Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel, amid controversy surrounding the delayed release of a video that showed Chicago police shooting a black teenager last year.

Clinton responded “I do” when asked whether she stood by Emanuel, who is a veteran of both the Obama and Clinton administrations.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/262207-clinton-expresses-confidence-in-chicago-mayor

Do not tell me anyone cops killing black people & privilege when this what you support

[JaneyVee]

135. This op isn't about candidates.

Apparently I posted it in the wrong forum, according to "concerned" posters.

[akbacchus_BC]

145. JaneyVee, apart from cops shooting young unarmed black youths for no reason,

when are the cops raping black women? Just asking as I have not seen it in the news!

[JRLeft]

153. I'm black don't try to use my people's plight to justify Hillary.

You're not helping your cause.

[JaneyVee]

157. This op isn't about candidates.

[JRLeft]

161. Yes, it was.

You're one of the biggest Hillary supporters on the site.

[JaneyVee]

169. No, it wasn't. But....

Thanks for swinging by to tell me all about myself.

[zigby]

162. Umm..

"you're threatening to not vote if your preferred candidate isn't on the ballot? " is right in your OP. I'm on your team, you should delete. Maybe put the wine glass down? lol I've been there for sure =)

[JaneyVee]

166. Yes, and I didn't name a candidate.

Because this op isn't about candidates, it's about privilege, it's about voting, it's about racial injustice.

[zigby]

168. If that's true, your wording is sloppy

And you should edit to take out references to candidates or don't get surprised when you get the reaction you do.

[JaneyVee]

172. But voting rights are under attack...

And voting is how we can begin to tackle the issues.

[JRLeft]

170. Everyone even you know, this is about getting people to vote for Hillary.

[JaneyVee]

175. I have my own thoughts. Thanks for sharing yours.

[akbacchus_BC]

165. Just asking, what is your OP about then, if it is not about the candidates?

Still want to know where cops are raping black women?

[JaneyVee]

167. See post 166.

[akbacchus_BC]

174. Post 166 does not clarify anything. I am really lost as to what message

you are trying to convey!

[Betty Karlson]

176. Wow, now resusal to vote for Clinton is equalled with extrajudicial murder.

Janey, you need to take a chill pill. Right Now.

Stop cursing.

Stop crying murder over a primary vote. Those innocents who died at the hands of the police deserve much better than to be turned into a primary campaign prop.

We'll discuss voting in the GE once we have an actual nominee.

In the meantime: calm down.

I mean it.

[pansypoo53219]

177. it ALL comes down to the SUPREME COURT & i do NOT need a GWB 2!

GROW UP.

[akbacchus_BC]

178. It is counter productive when people make up lies on here!

When did cops rape women? When you make a statement on a public website, you need to have facts to back up your claim. Your claim on here is so disruptive that I have to ask you why you made those allegations!

[1StrongBlackMan]

202. Google the name: Holtzclaw ...

The case was discussed in both the AA Group and the HoF Group, because it spoke to a larger problem, than even BLM ...the wholesale exploitation for vulnerable populations by police.

The most heart-wrenching testimony of the victims was where they didn't come forward because they didn't believe they would be believed because they were Black women accusing a white cop.

And your lack of awareness, and steadfast refusal to inform yourself, suggests they may have been correct ... not because (I would hope) you are unfeeling; but rather, because your concerns are different.

[1StrongBlackMan]

179. Wow ... DU is becoming/has become ...

A really unhealthy space, when this OP can be seen as "point scoring" and "using rape victims (and Black folks) as props" ... by folks threatening not to vote if their preferred candidate does not earn/win the Democratic nomination.

WOW!

[akbacchus_BC]

181. No, DU is not becoming nothing. When did cops rape women according to the

Op? Come on!

[1StrongBlackMan]

185. You haven't been following the news, huh? ...

Google: cop convicted of raping black women , then do a DU search of the same.

[workinclasszero]

200. Former Oklahoma police officer found guilty of multiple rapes

A former Oklahoma City police officer has been convicted of sexually assaulting women he preyed upon in a low-income neighborhood he patrolled.

A jury convicted Daniel Holtzclaw of four charges of first-degree rape and 14 other counts.

Holtzclaw was charged with 36 counts for incidents from December 2013 to June 2014, and he was fired in January 2015. He was convicted of 18 counts connected to eight women, all of whom were black and who testified against him.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/12/11/former-oklahoma-police-officer-found-guilty-serial-rape/77138186/

[m-lekktor]

182. no. DUers are smart enough to put this post in the context of all the other

posts made by this person that we have read, so spare us the 'wow" please and stop insulting peoples' intelligence. THANKS!

[akbacchus_BC]

184. Thank you for your comment! I have no idea why some

DUers have to be so mean when it is not necessary!

[1StrongBlackMan]

187. Did you post this to the wrong post? n/t

[1StrongBlackMan]

186. Okay ...

Someone posts stuff you don't like/agree with, so "context" dictates ...

Nevermind.

[MeNMyVolt]

221. +1 Lot's of masks coming off.

[1StrongBlackMan]

223. Yes. Indeed n/t

[AgingAmerican]

188. You are the ones backing the 'more of the same' candidate

If you want that to stop, support the candidate that would put a stop to it.

[RiverLover]

191. Exactly. Having a Third Way president, who is black even, isn't stopping police brutality.

Strange OP.

[AgingAmerican]

193. The author of the op said she would vote for Trump if Sanders wins the nominee

Which makes it even more absurd.

[kath]

211. This.

[AgingAmerican]

189. The other day you said you would vote for Trump if Sanders was the nominee

And today you post this?

Mmmm Hmm...

[SidDithers]

190. DU rec...nt

Sid

[NCTraveler]

192. Sadly, not all of us have the same levle of concern over these issues.

It is based in privilege itself.

[ibegurpard]

194. "some of us"

Just turn that concern off and on to fit whatever political narrative they're trying to push.

[NCTraveler]

195. Exactly. They just turn their concern on and off.

They are a group willing to embolden republicans in elections. They are simply fools. Thankfully the posters here will overwhelmingly vote for our nominee. We at DU are better than the LIV's that will end up supporting republicans in the general with a vote or by sitting it out.

[ibegurpard]

196. I was talking about the OP...

[NCTraveler]

197. The op isn't bragging about helping conservatives. Just the opposite.

They are simply pointing out the ignorance of others. I personally respect the fact that the op doesn't cater to the conservative agenda.

[Warren Stupidity]

198. You've won the internets non sequitur award.

If you could have worked baby killing and kitten slaughter into your predicate the internets might have retired the award in your honor.


Bows.

[workinclasszero]

199. I have the utmost contempt and revulsion

for anyone that calls him or herself a democrat, progressive, leftist, or independent and would sit by and allow a fascist republican to take the reins of power over this country for the next eight years.

People that would do this are worse than the republicans they claim to be against. At least the fucking republicans lay out exactly who and what they are so you know they are evil bastards.

The progressive that claims to care about social justice, PoC, out of control police, a living wage, women's rights, etc and sits at home and helps republicans get elected is the lowest POS on the face of the earth to me.

I will gladly vote for Bernie Sanders should he win the nomination and I would even contribute what little money I could spare to his campaign, and I would urge everyone I know to vote for him.

Anyone on this board that promises to never vote for the democratic nominee for president should be insta banned outta here for life IMO!

They are de facto fascist fucking REPUBLICANS and should be treated as such!

[NurseJackie]

201. Agreed ...

(And kick!)

[1StrongBlackMan]

206. +1,000 and then some. n/t

[ibegurpard]

208. I just love the way

You folks drop your social justice concerns for whatever political attacks are expedient and then pick them right back up again in earnest. I would think that would be exhausting.

[MeNMyVolt]

222. Recommend this reply. Well said WCZ.

[Bluenorthwest]

203. Is this about MaggieD's posts raving about her refusal to vote for the nominee?

Here is an example, a thread in which she says she won't vote for the nominee unless it is her choice of nominees over and over gain and you, Janey, are right there with her, not at all critical of her anti nominee stance:
"Bernie supporters are a big reason I will never support Bernie."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251878490#post4

She's already on a time out, and that really should be enough for you, no reason to attack her endlessly like this.

Plus, the verbiage you use is exploitative of crime victims. Not really worth it just to take a swipe at posters like MaggieD.

[kath]

212. +10

[workinclasszero]

213. Anyone who refuses to vote for the democrat

In the 2016 general.

It doesn't matter who they support in the primaries.

If they sit out, they are de facto republicans.

[Bluenorthwest]

217. And yet the OP has cheered for MaggieD in threads where she's said this.

I'm not into this double standard bit. If you mean what you say, then let your actions demonstrate that in the future in a consistent and honestly brokered fashion.

[workinclasszero]

218. When have I ever said anything different?

It's a must to keep republicans out of the white house.

We fight each other now in the primaries but in the general....get behind the candidate 100% or get the hell out of here and join freakrepublic IMO.

[jeff47]

207. Hey, you make a big deal about your candidates detailed proposals....

Where's her racial justice proposal? You know, the one BLM activists keep asking for and not getting?

[UglyGreed]

210. .

Clinton: "We do have the best law enforcement in the world, the best military, the best intelligence services."

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

219. Plenty of not-so-privileged people will not vote ...

... if they're not excited by any of the candidates.

I'd expect most DUers to get off their butts and vote, even if it's for the lesser of two evils. Because we care enough to register at DU.

Ignoring the vote is not just for the privileged.

[beam me up scottie]

224. Kicking so I can see who rec'd this meta thread but is complaining about the Canadian one.

Interesting double standard there.