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Sun Feb 5, 2012, 08:25 PM

That Clint Eastwood Chrysler ad was essentially a reelect Obama commercial...

Without overtly saying it.

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Reply That Clint Eastwood Chrysler ad was essentially a reelect Obama commercial... (Original post)
Drunken Irishman Feb 2012 OP
seabeyond Feb 2012 #1
dhill926 Feb 2012 #2
JI7 Feb 2012 #3
Tx4obama Feb 2012 #4
Bennyboy Feb 2012 #5
Lint Head Feb 2012 #6
Alexander Feb 2012 #7
SteveG Feb 2012 #9
FarPoint Feb 2012 #8
Pisces Feb 2012 #10
Bombtrack Feb 2012 #11
JoePhilly Feb 2012 #12
Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2012 #13
gateley Feb 2012 #14
Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2012 #16
xfundy Feb 2012 #15
madrchsod Feb 2012 #17
Orangepeel Feb 2012 #18
renie408 Feb 2012 #27
Orangepeel Feb 2012 #31
MineralMan Feb 2012 #19
Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2012 #21
Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2012 #20
Robbins Feb 2012 #22
Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2012 #23
MADem Feb 2012 #24
DCBob Feb 2012 #25
uponit7771 Feb 2012 #28
yellowcanine Feb 2012 #26
Major Hogwash Feb 2012 #29
The Chris Feb 2012 #30
marlakay Feb 2012 #32
Showrunner Feb 2012 #33

Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 08:26 PM

1. i liked it. nt

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 08:30 PM

2. I almost thought that was how he was going to end it......

What was Biden's quote again? Bin Laden is dead while GE is alive...........

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 08:31 PM

3. i haven't seen it but sounds good and that it's Clint Eastwood seems like it

makes it even stronger than if it was someone else.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #3)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 08:45 PM

4. Here it is ...




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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 08:51 PM

5. If I was Obama.....

 

I would run a clip of Romney saying "Let them fail" every single time that commercial ran. EVERY TIME.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 08:55 PM

6. I thought so too. Clint has supported Republicans in the past but he is more of a left wing

conservative. I think Clint has become more progressive recently.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 09:14 PM

7. He is a Republican but as I understand it, he's fairly moderate in his views.

Eastwood was against the Iraq War, he has occasionally supported Democrats in the past, he's pretty liberal when it comes to social issues like gay rights and abortion and he was an environmental advocate back when he was mayor of Carmel-by-the-Sea.

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Response to Alexander (Reply #7)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 09:20 PM

9. Gran Torino

Was a fantastic statement on stereotyping and racism.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 09:14 PM

8. That was my take when I watched.

I liked it.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 09:31 PM

10. I thought so too. Posted on another thread that he a Republican, but how could you miss the 2nd half

euphemism and the bailout worked meme? I loved it.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 10:20 PM

11. There's so much online right-wing desperation to claim celebrity support based on flimsy evidence

that I don't want to do the same. Especially since it highlights their hypocrisy/double standard about celebrity political opining so well.

But I have gathered that Eastwood is the kind of guy who's Republican loyalty would likely end with someone like McCain and not extend to a doofus like Romney, learning his lesson from a disaster like Bush.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 10:43 PM

12. We saw it that way too.

All he did was promote the US auto industry. And talk about how important it was.

But it seemed there was an underlying message.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 11:21 PM

13. Do you have a link to the commercial? I went to the restroom and missed it.

Someone seemed to think that it was anti-union.

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Response to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Reply #13)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 11:34 PM

14. tx4obama posted it upthread. nt

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Response to gateley (Reply #14)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 11:42 PM

16. Thanks for this!! :)

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 11:39 PM

15. I didn't take it that way AT ALL.

I thought it was simply a script on the reality of today's America, the fact that the economy's been screwed up and that GM is back and even though Detroit still lies in ruins there are improvements.

Realizing Eastwood has been a pub in the past, I think he was, at the time, thinking they were still the way they used to be: somewhat rational. Give him a break, he's getting older.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Mon Feb 6, 2012, 12:06 AM

17. who put his ass on the line to bail out Chrysler?

now Chrysler is bailing out it`s owner fiat. the the most productive plant and workers in the usa are employed at Chrysler `s belvidre plant in illinois.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Mon Feb 6, 2012, 08:00 AM

18. It was an excellent commercial because you saw it that way. I bet republicans didn't see it that way

Factually, objectively, the auto industry bailout is a success story because of our administration. President Obama's likely opponent is on record saying let it die. The spot ought to be a strong argument to vote for Obama again.

But, the brilliance of the writing of the ad (IMO) is that people who oppose/lean against the President will interpret it the opposite way. It's "halftime in America" now and we've been punched and we're losing. What's it going to take to be "morning in America" again? A viewer's answer to that question (and I do think it was trying to evoke Reagen) is going to depend on how they want to answer it. Facts be damned (the first comment I read on a story about the ad was "Clint Eastwood for President.").

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Response to Orangepeel (Reply #18)

Mon Feb 6, 2012, 09:16 PM

27. Apparently Karl Rove saw it that way. I read on another thread..

that he gave an interview in which he said he was outraged over the commercial.

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Response to renie408 (Reply #27)

Tue Feb 7, 2012, 03:07 PM

31. True

But Rove is a nasty bastard.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Mon Feb 6, 2012, 09:36 AM

19. After watching that ad, I remember thinking that both sides

would think it favored them. For those who want the President re-elected, it was about that. For those who want to see Obama gone, it was about that. I found it terribly ineffective as an ad for anything. It was more of a pep talk for the concept of America.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #19)

Mon Feb 6, 2012, 11:47 AM

21. Pardon my ignorance, but how would Republicans view this commercial as anything other than a slam?

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Mon Feb 6, 2012, 11:44 AM

20. Yep, and Clint was the best man for the job. He is a lifelong Republican with

Libertarian roots. He, unlike his Republican cohort charlatans--Bruce Williams, Kelsey Grammer, and Sly Stallone--is not over the top partisan or full of hate.

I really enjoyed the commercial and happy to see Clint finally wake up.

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Response to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Reply #20)

Mon Feb 6, 2012, 01:25 PM

22. Clint

Look at his wiki page and you will discover he Is republican you can agree on some things with.

He has gaven money to a democrat In the past.He admitted when Unforgiven was up for oscars he voted for Perot.

He also went on record as being against the recall In California.He has never been Impressed with the Bushes.He wasn't wild
about Bush In 2000,and he wasn't a supporter of the Iraq war although he didn't want to attack Bush publicly.

The last time he actully publicly campagined for a republican was Nixon.While he admited he donated money and voted for Mccain
he called Obama his president too.Unlike Norris or Stallone he has never supported Birther movements.And has never been gungho
about Military action like Willis.

Look at some of his films.They aren't always beloved by right wingers.Some on far right didn't like Sudden Impact since he had
a rape victim hunt down her rapists.He also directed a film showing japanese point of view during world War II.He directed a film
with Morgan freeman as Nelson mandela as major character.His film on Hoover does show negative side of Hoover while some might
say it doesn't go far enough but considering he Is technical a republican It Is amazing.

If you are going to watch a Republican action star In past films you should watch Eastwood.

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Response to Robbins (Reply #22)

Mon Feb 6, 2012, 03:32 PM

23. I agree, and I'm old enough to have watched his movies growing up.

I will always love his "Every Which Way But Loose" and all of those sequels.

I think Eastwood is also a supporter of marriage equality. He's much more of an old-style Libertarian Republican than the clan we got here.

How he voted for McCain is a mystery, but o.k. Given this commercial, I can't see how he could support Mitt Romney who opposed everything that the commercial stands for.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Mon Feb 6, 2012, 08:08 PM

24. Ha! Drunken Irishman, you are famous!

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Mon Feb 6, 2012, 08:14 PM

25. The only thing missing was the Romney op-ed "Let Detroit Go Bankrupt"

published in 2008 in the NYTimes..

"IF General Motors, Ford and Chrysler get the bailout that their chief executives asked for yesterday, you can kiss the American automotive industry goodbye. It won’t go overnight, but its demise will be virtually guaranteed."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/19/opinion/19romney.html


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Response to DCBob (Reply #25)

Mon Feb 6, 2012, 09:33 PM

28. +1

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Mon Feb 6, 2012, 08:51 PM

26. Clint Eastwood says not.....

http://www.politico.com/blogs/click/2012/02/clint-eastwood-im-not-affiliated-with-obama-113651.html


“It was meant to be a message ... just about job growth and the spirit of America. I think all politicians will agree with it.”

Eastwood reiterated that he’s “not supporting any politician at this time” and added that if "Obama or any other politician wants to run with the spirit of that ad, go for it.”

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Mon Feb 6, 2012, 09:56 PM

29. Yeah, I agree.

It was odd because his voice is almost gone.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Tue Feb 7, 2012, 02:53 PM

30. The Lost Romney Superbowl Ad

I think you guys will love this! Mitt's vision of America.

[link:&feature=colike|

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Tue Feb 7, 2012, 03:59 PM

32. It was my fav commercial

I didn't see a problem with it at all. Maybe he will go for Obama this time, I heard he is a moderate repub and doesn't like their social values and everyone running is either religious or against gays, so he just might want Obama again.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Tue Feb 7, 2012, 05:07 PM

33. Knowing that it was Clint...

 

I almost expected it to end with an overt republican pitch. Something almost Koch Brothers. The music was the dead giveaway that it was a Message°c Spot. Hurry, Hurry, Hurry...This 3-Ringer Ain't Done Yet! Thoughts at 3 A.M. http://thoughtsatthreeam.blogspot.com/?spref=tw

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