2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary mimics Bernie, again: *Break Up Big Banks*
In yet another pitiful attempt
to undermine Bernie's actual conviction,
Hillary has parroted him once again.
Hillary is NOW pledging to "break up"
BIG BANKS *if necessary*!!!
IF NECESSARY
Does Hillary remember the
Wall St Crash of 2008?
What else does she need to see
to determine if too big to fail
needs to be broken up?
She can't even bring herself to
say Glass-Steagall IS necessary...
but, she'll *break em up if necessary*
STOP IT HILLARY.
This parroting and pandering
is very unflattering.
Everyone with two working brain cells
can see through your progressive charade.
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/national_world/2015/11/21/hillary-clinton-vows-shes-willing-to-break-up-big-banks.html
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Don not believe her at all
merrily
(45,251 posts)Can't imagine why she does so poorly in trustworthiness polls.
Cosmic Kitten
(3,498 posts)What version is she up to?
v20.16?
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Response to Cosmic Kitten (Reply #5)
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Cosmic Kitten
(3,498 posts)Response to Cosmic Kitten (Reply #19)
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MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)and a perfect blend of church and state, too.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Cosmic Kitten
(3,498 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Last edited Sun Nov 22, 2015, 02:19 PM - Edit history (1)
http://www.pastemagazine.com/blogs/lists/2013/11/the-10-best-celebrity-impressions-on-television-of-all-time.htmlDemeter
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,121 posts)All she can do is channel her "inner Bernie."
Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)Hillary defended her Wall Street besties during the debate, and doubled down on her refusal to reinstate Glass Stegall--it's hurt her.
So, she's "rebranding herself".
NOW, she wants to break up the big banks. OMG...who actually believes this. I assure you, not the big banks!
Hillary is the ultimate reflecting-pool candidate. Her act is very big and impressive at the onset, but examine a little closer--and there's very little depth and not a lot there. It just all begins to fall apart when you go beyond the surface of her "inevitability".
These forced errors are fueled by her own words, bad campaign decisions and misguided reactions as she tries to right her campaign.
Next, I'm sure we'll see ridiculous attacks from her surrogates and campaign staffers. Those are always gems. I hope we see them soon. It's when the real Hillary comes out.
Demeter
(85,373 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)daleanime
(17,796 posts)How bad will it need to get before it's 'necessary'?
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)... the election.
Perhaps the Republican President will listen to her.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)Cosmic Kitten
(3,498 posts)Hillary didn't like in on the day
she made her statement.
Tomorrow is a different day...
evolver gonna evolve!
She's against TPP
She's for TPP
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,121 posts)Sorry, but I'd rather have the original.
Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!
Autumn Colors
(2,379 posts)I predict that she will determine it not to be "necessary" one day after the election.
Cosmic Kitten
(3,498 posts)How's she gonna break up
the institutions that pay her
and Bill tens of millions $$$
for 30 minute speechifying?
Crystalite
(164 posts)Let's not get all mean with them all at once!
Cosmic Kitten
(3,498 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,121 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!
virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)Her pollsters must have told her that Bernie's message is resonating with people who aren't Superdelegates.
Cosmic Kitten
(3,498 posts)It's clearly pandering to
low information voters
in an effort to undercut
Bernie's momentum.
The HRC group admits as much
Onward to Super Tuesday.
Yet another Sanders supporters talking point gone
http://www.democraticunderground.com/110727708
It's a transparent attempt to
undercut Bernie's policies.
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)This is a prime example of how third-way neocons operate during the campaign. Make promises on popular issues, but always have an "out" for plausible deniability down the line. Same thing is happening with these numerous designer polls showing a Hillary blowout even though they don't seem to jive with observations in the real world. They are building a case for manipulated election results I bet.
alc
(1,151 posts)If Bernie says this people think they understand what he means.
If Hilary says it many people want to know what she means by "if necessary" and what criteria she will use for "big". I'd guess Trump would break up big banks "if necessary". His "necessary" may be that they have Chinese owners who are 10 seconds away from buying the entire country and raising the Mexican flag at the white house and enforcing Sharia law.
Cosmic Kitten
(3,498 posts)dishonest and untrustworthy
is how the MAJORITY of people
describe Hillary.
It is what it is.
Indepatriot
(1,253 posts)Cosmic Kitten
(3,498 posts)Another DUers posted a great response
to her finger wag, faux scolding...
*cut it out...or we're gonna get caught*
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,121 posts)Android3.14
(5,402 posts)They all have their eyes clenched shut and are whispering "I do believe in fairies...I do believe in fairies..."
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)I bow to your gif in solidarity.
Android3.14
(5,402 posts)Demeter
(85,373 posts)brentspeak
(18,290 posts)cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)nc4bo
(17,651 posts)MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Too good to pass up in this thread!
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,121 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)Dear God.
Ever changing on the surface but inside.......SSDD.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)better advice on how to run than the people you pay millions to, it's time to at least retool the top of the org chart
instead of saying she's the REAL chance for progressives and will never flip-flop, and then swing right to court some phantom anti-SS wing of the Democrats, I'd just chalk my shitty economic record to "lessons learned" and assuage donors that the reforms are just to make sure that Wall Street doesn't kill the geese for their golden eggs: (but that'd require seeing the Dems as a party of those that the status quo isn't working out for, instead of seeing them as a party that's 40% Al From, 25% activists, and a squishy middle)
instead of saying I'm THE ONLY Black candidate and THE ONLY women's candidate and THE ONLY gay candidate and THE ONLY blue-collar candidate and painting myself into a corner with both my record and the disagreements between the sectors I'm "representing," I'll just keep the campaign vague, high-minded, and friendly-looking: (but that'd mean giving up the online "foot soldiers" and paid follows)
instead of attacking Riyadh/Wall Street/PhRMA and then countersigning their checks, I'd just declare I'm trying to win with votes instead of dollars: (but that'd require seeing a campaign as a way to win, rather than a way to build further connections)
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)Do we wait for another crisis then say we need to break them up? What would that entail? Do we break off the portion suffering huge losses and bail out that portion (boy that would be really be teaching those banks a lesson)?
Wouldn't it make more sense to break them up when they are in a healthier position?
Wouldn't it be much more difficult to monitor big banks and identify problems in a timely manner (i.e., when you could actually do something to prevent or lessen the crisis)?
The corporate media is really hammering Clinton for an explanation. Why don't they just report her comments without question. It must be because she's a woman.
TheBlackAdder
(28,167 posts).
This is a tactic used for over a century to control the female and minority votes, duping people for support.
Yet, there is no intention of sincerity--it's a political ploy to garnish voter support for elections and law passage.
Is seems as though the closer Clinton presents herself, on key issues, it removes the effectiveness of Sanders.
I see this evolution on issues to be more manipulation than actual sincerity, playing to the audience.
Co-opting issues rarely results in their swift passage.
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MaggieD
(7,393 posts).... Or face higher taxes associated with the risk. It's a very smart plan.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)and add an if clause at the end!
gordyfl
(598 posts)I think what Hillary is referring to is Dodd-Frank. Banks that are in financial trouble would "Wind Down" in an orderly fashion, still leaving a possibility of some taxpayer help.
When I heard her defend not bringing back Glass-Steagall, she has jumped to "Dodd Frank".
CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)liberal N proud
(60,332 posts)Damn her for connections to big money, damn her for calling to break them up?
Sounds like you are just against Hillary regardless of her position.
EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)About raising the retirement age she said no, not at the present time, not unless someone could come up with a way for a means test would she consider it.
She is always definitive, except with qualifers. People really need to "read" her speeches, and debate transcripts to see these qualifiers all over the place.
azmom
(5,208 posts)So obvious when you read the text.
aspirant
(3,533 posts)Bernie's Revolution revolves, turning America back into a People's Democracy.
pa28
(6,145 posts)Break up the big banks (if necessary)
Oppose the TPP (from what I know TODAY).
Like a bedtime story nobody really believes it's true. Especially the person reading it.