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Cosmic Kitten

(3,498 posts)
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 11:10 AM Nov 2015

Hillary mimics Bernie, again: *Break Up Big Banks*



In yet another pitiful attempt
to undermine Bernie's actual conviction,
Hillary has parroted him once again.

Hillary is NOW pledging to "break up"
BIG BANKS *if necessary*!!!

IF NECESSARY

Does Hillary remember the
Wall St Crash of 2008?

What else does she need to see
to determine if too big to fail
needs to be broken up?

She can't even bring herself to
say Glass-Steagall IS necessary...
but, she'll *break em up if necessary*

STOP IT HILLARY.
This parroting and pandering
is very unflattering.

Everyone with two working brain cells
can see through your progressive charade.

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/national_world/2015/11/21/hillary-clinton-vows-shes-willing-to-break-up-big-banks.html
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Hillary mimics Bernie, again: *Break Up Big Banks* (Original Post) Cosmic Kitten Nov 2015 OP
Yes, I see she evolved again Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #1
And I hadn't even assimilated her Wall Street transaction tax yet. Hard to keep up, no? merrily Nov 2015 #3
She gets updated more than Firefox! Cosmic Kitten Nov 2015 #5
Lol Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #7
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #18
*version WINNER* nice ;~) Cosmic Kitten Nov 2015 #19
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #20
That's a little funny... MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #50
Actually there is only one version; Hillary Me , there are a wide variety of skins though Fumesucker Nov 2015 #21
yet another great retort Cosmic Kitten Nov 2015 #23
Gotta admit, I loves me a good impersonator. merrily Nov 2015 #2
Yup. Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #16
I don't think Hillary has ever had an original thought... InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2015 #30
Bernie is rising in the polls; she tanking--because of Wall Street. CoffeeCat Nov 2015 #58
You mean impersonator, don't you? Demeter Nov 2015 #44
I've seen both words used. Impersonator is probably better. No confusion with painters. merrily Nov 2015 #48
Did anyone ask her the obvious follow-up question? daleanime Nov 2015 #4
Of course not Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #6
She'll "let you know" after ... 99Forever Nov 2015 #8
2020. Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #17
It's like the TPP... Cosmic Kitten Nov 2015 #9
Yup yup...all Hillary has to do is press the reset button and do her Bernie impersonation. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2015 #32
If she is elected ... Autumn Colors Nov 2015 #10
I wouldn't bet against that! Cosmic Kitten Nov 2015 #11
Let's give "cut it out" a shot first before moving on to "if necessary"... Crystalite Nov 2015 #25
True. Hillary needs a thoughtful, measured response, to corruption. Cosmic Kitten Nov 2015 #26
Yes, I agree...no doubt Wall Street bankers are shakin in their boots over that one! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2015 #33
True....and when you wait until it is necessary, it is already too late. virtualobserver Nov 2015 #12
Camp weathervane is ever going with the prevailing winds Cosmic Kitten Nov 2015 #14
Odds are 100% that she would never consider it "necessary" to break them up. NorthCarolina Nov 2015 #27
this is where the trust issue matters alc Nov 2015 #13
Weasel words. Cosmic Kitten Nov 2015 #15
"CUT IT OUT...now, where's my check?" Indepatriot Nov 2015 #22
That about sums it up. Cosmic Kitten Nov 2015 #24
Ding ding ding!!!...we hava winna!! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2015 #36
And over in Hillary-Hillary Land Android3.14 Nov 2015 #28
And, I'm stealing THAT gif, too!!! MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #43
Thanks, and be my guest Android3.14 Nov 2015 #46
Wrong movie! Demeter Nov 2015 #45
If necessary, cut it out. n/t brentspeak Nov 2015 #29
Can There Be Any Doubt - Some Candidates Twist With The Wind cantbeserious Nov 2015 #31
^nailed it. nt nc4bo Nov 2015 #35
Stealing that gif! MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #42
We know where Hillary stands...right behind Bernie! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2015 #59
She is a mess. nc4bo Nov 2015 #34
yeah, I'm always surprised by how badly they're campaigning: when your fiercest critics are giving MisterP Nov 2015 #57
When would the need arise? When they were already in trouble? Skwmom Nov 2015 #37
CO-OPTING: The manipulative measure of taking over the messaging & voters to control & neutralize. TheBlackAdder Nov 2015 #38
Here current plan encourages them to break themselves up MaggieD Nov 2015 #39
Me, too! Me, too! Me, too! Me, too! MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #40
All she has to do is parrot Bernie Helen Borg Nov 2015 #41
"Wind Down" the Troubled Banks gordyfl Nov 2015 #47
Weasel words as usual. Like she'd ever consider it "necessary." CharlotteVale Nov 2015 #49
Sounds to me that you don't like her either way liberal N proud Nov 2015 #51
She often adds qualifiers to her positions, such as "if necessary" EndElectoral Nov 2015 #52
I recommend doing the same. Her non-answers are azmom Nov 2015 #55
Hills evolves, aspirant Nov 2015 #53
Another bedtime story from Hillary. pa28 Nov 2015 #54
bernie sanders is the only person in HUMAN history who HAS EVER had this idea. way to go B-man nt msongs Nov 2015 #56

merrily

(45,251 posts)
3. And I hadn't even assimilated her Wall Street transaction tax yet. Hard to keep up, no?
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 11:15 AM
Nov 2015

Can't imagine why she does so poorly in trustworthiness polls.

Response to Cosmic Kitten (Reply #5)

Response to Cosmic Kitten (Reply #19)

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,121 posts)
30. I don't think Hillary has ever had an original thought...
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 12:20 PM
Nov 2015

All she can do is channel her "inner Bernie."

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
58. Bernie is rising in the polls; she tanking--because of Wall Street.
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 02:48 PM
Nov 2015

Hillary defended her Wall Street besties during the debate, and doubled down on her refusal to reinstate Glass Stegall--it's hurt her.

So, she's "rebranding herself".

NOW, she wants to break up the big banks. OMG...who actually believes this. I assure you, not the big banks!

Hillary is the ultimate reflecting-pool candidate. Her act is very big and impressive at the onset, but examine a little closer--and there's very little depth and not a lot there. It just all begins to fall apart when you go beyond the surface of her "inevitability".

These forced errors are fueled by her own words, bad campaign decisions and misguided reactions as she tries to right her campaign.

Next, I'm sure we'll see ridiculous attacks from her surrogates and campaign staffers. Those are always gems. I hope we see them soon. It's when the real Hillary comes out.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
8. She'll "let you know" after ...
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 11:21 AM
Nov 2015

... the election.


Perhaps the Republican President will listen to her.

Cosmic Kitten

(3,498 posts)
9. It's like the TPP...
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 11:24 AM
Nov 2015

Hillary didn't like in on the day
she made her statement.
Tomorrow is a different day...
evolver gonna evolve!

She's against TPP

"As of today, I am not in favor of what I have learned about it," she said in an Oct. 8 2015 interview with PBS Newshour’s Judy Woodruff, adding, "I don’t believe it’s going to meet the high bar I have set."


She's for TPP
Nov. 5, 2012, remarks in Australia: "This TPP sets the gold standard in trade agreements to open free, transparent, fair trade, the kind of environment that has the rule of law and a level playing field. And when negotiated, this agreement will cover 40 percent of the world's total trade and build in strong protections for workers and the environment."

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,121 posts)
32. Yup yup...all Hillary has to do is press the reset button and do her Bernie impersonation.
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 12:23 PM
Nov 2015

Sorry, but I'd rather have the original.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

 

Autumn Colors

(2,379 posts)
10. If she is elected ...
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 11:30 AM
Nov 2015

I predict that she will determine it not to be "necessary" one day after the election.

Cosmic Kitten

(3,498 posts)
11. I wouldn't bet against that!
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 11:32 AM
Nov 2015

How's she gonna break up
the institutions that pay her
and Bill tens of millions $$$
for 30 minute speechifying?

 

Crystalite

(164 posts)
25. Let's give "cut it out" a shot first before moving on to "if necessary"...
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 12:09 PM
Nov 2015

Let's not get all mean with them all at once!

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,121 posts)
33. Yes, I agree...no doubt Wall Street bankers are shakin in their boots over that one!
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 12:25 PM
Nov 2015

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
12. True....and when you wait until it is necessary, it is already too late.
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 11:37 AM
Nov 2015

Her pollsters must have told her that Bernie's message is resonating with people who aren't Superdelegates.

Cosmic Kitten

(3,498 posts)
14. Camp weathervane is ever going with the prevailing winds
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 11:45 AM
Nov 2015

It's clearly pandering to
low information voters
in an effort to undercut
Bernie's momentum.

The HRC group admits as much


Onward to Super Tuesday.
Yet another Sanders supporters talking point gone
http://www.democraticunderground.com/110727708


It's a transparent attempt to
undercut Bernie's policies.
 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
27. Odds are 100% that she would never consider it "necessary" to break them up.
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 12:13 PM
Nov 2015

This is a prime example of how third-way neocons operate during the campaign. Make promises on popular issues, but always have an "out" for plausible deniability down the line. Same thing is happening with these numerous designer polls showing a Hillary blowout even though they don't seem to jive with observations in the real world. They are building a case for manipulated election results I bet.

alc

(1,151 posts)
13. this is where the trust issue matters
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 11:45 AM
Nov 2015

If Bernie says this people think they understand what he means.

If Hilary says it many people want to know what she means by "if necessary" and what criteria she will use for "big". I'd guess Trump would break up big banks "if necessary". His "necessary" may be that they have Chinese owners who are 10 seconds away from buying the entire country and raising the Mexican flag at the white house and enforcing Sharia law.

Cosmic Kitten

(3,498 posts)
15. Weasel words.
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 11:47 AM
Nov 2015

dishonest and untrustworthy
is how the MAJORITY of people
describe Hillary.

It is what it is.

Cosmic Kitten

(3,498 posts)
24. That about sums it up.
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 12:09 PM
Nov 2015

Another DUers posted a great response
to her finger wag, faux scolding...

*cut it out...or we're gonna get caught*

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
28. And over in Hillary-Hillary Land
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 12:16 PM
Nov 2015

They all have their eyes clenched shut and are whispering "I do believe in fairies...I do believe in fairies..."

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
57. yeah, I'm always surprised by how badly they're campaigning: when your fiercest critics are giving
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 02:32 PM
Nov 2015

better advice on how to run than the people you pay millions to, it's time to at least retool the top of the org chart

instead of saying she's the REAL chance for progressives and will never flip-flop, and then swing right to court some phantom anti-SS wing of the Democrats, I'd just chalk my shitty economic record to "lessons learned" and assuage donors that the reforms are just to make sure that Wall Street doesn't kill the geese for their golden eggs: (but that'd require seeing the Dems as a party of those that the status quo isn't working out for, instead of seeing them as a party that's 40% Al From, 25% activists, and a squishy middle)

instead of saying I'm THE ONLY Black candidate and THE ONLY women's candidate and THE ONLY gay candidate and THE ONLY blue-collar candidate and painting myself into a corner with both my record and the disagreements between the sectors I'm "representing," I'll just keep the campaign vague, high-minded, and friendly-looking: (but that'd mean giving up the online "foot soldiers" and paid follows)

instead of attacking Riyadh/Wall Street/PhRMA and then countersigning their checks, I'd just declare I'm trying to win with votes instead of dollars: (but that'd require seeing a campaign as a way to win, rather than a way to build further connections)

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
37. When would the need arise? When they were already in trouble?
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 12:31 PM
Nov 2015

Do we wait for another crisis then say we need to break them up? What would that entail? Do we break off the portion suffering huge losses and bail out that portion (boy that would be really be teaching those banks a lesson)?

Wouldn't it make more sense to break them up when they are in a healthier position?

Wouldn't it be much more difficult to monitor big banks and identify problems in a timely manner (i.e., when you could actually do something to prevent or lessen the crisis)?

The corporate media is really hammering Clinton for an explanation. Why don't they just report her comments without question. It must be because she's a woman.

TheBlackAdder

(28,167 posts)
38. CO-OPTING: The manipulative measure of taking over the messaging & voters to control & neutralize.
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 12:54 PM
Nov 2015

.


This is a tactic used for over a century to control the female and minority votes, duping people for support.

Yet, there is no intention of sincerity--it's a political ploy to garnish voter support for elections and law passage.


Is seems as though the closer Clinton presents herself, on key issues, it removes the effectiveness of Sanders.

I see this evolution on issues to be more manipulation than actual sincerity, playing to the audience.


Co-opting issues rarely results in their swift passage.


.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
39. Here current plan encourages them to break themselves up
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 01:49 PM
Nov 2015

.... Or face higher taxes associated with the risk. It's a very smart plan.

gordyfl

(598 posts)
47. "Wind Down" the Troubled Banks
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 02:03 PM
Nov 2015

I think what Hillary is referring to is Dodd-Frank. Banks that are in financial trouble would "Wind Down" in an orderly fashion, still leaving a possibility of some taxpayer help.
When I heard her defend not bringing back Glass-Steagall, she has jumped to "Dodd Frank".

liberal N proud

(60,332 posts)
51. Sounds to me that you don't like her either way
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 02:16 PM
Nov 2015

Damn her for connections to big money, damn her for calling to break them up?

Sounds like you are just against Hillary regardless of her position.

EndElectoral

(4,213 posts)
52. She often adds qualifiers to her positions, such as "if necessary"
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 02:16 PM
Nov 2015

About raising the retirement age she said no, not at the present time, not unless someone could come up with a way for a means test would she consider it.

She is always definitive, except with qualifers. People really need to "read" her speeches, and debate transcripts to see these qualifiers all over the place.

pa28

(6,145 posts)
54. Another bedtime story from Hillary.
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 02:23 PM
Nov 2015

Break up the big banks (if necessary)

Oppose the TPP (from what I know TODAY).

Like a bedtime story nobody really believes it's true. Especially the person reading it.

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