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Hillary Clinton has abandoned the Democratic Partys foreign policy for her own. Shes left behind the notion that the Middle Eastern conflict could be contained to that region and joined Republicans in their calls to expand our warfare. It cannot be contained; it must be defeated, she recently said. On November 19, she told The American Council on Foreign Relations, (t)he United States has been conducting this fight for more than a year; its time to begin a new phase and intensify and broaden our efforts
if we press forward on both sides of the border, in the air, on the ground, and as well as diplomatically, I do believe we can crush ISISs enclave of terror. According to that story in The Guardian, she called for American troops to be embedded with Iraqi troops on front lines of the battles she envisions, and a notoriously difficult no-fly zone to be imposed over Syria. She said, We have lots of work to do to really decimate ISIL in Iraq, using ISISs alternative name.
This escalation of her rhetoric defies recent commentary from foreign policy professionals pointing out that the defeat several days ago of ISIS fighters whod taken the northern Iraq city of Sinjar and similar battlefield victories in Syria has been partly responsible for a major shift in ISIS thinking; they have adapted to the loss of territory to a policy of world-wide terrorism, something that led to the downfall of Al Qaeda. So, while President Obama and his Secretary of State John Kerry are predicting a cease-fire agreement with forces on the ground in Syria (NYT, November 17, among many others, like PBS) Hillary Clinton is joining the Republican candidates and calling for the insertion of American ground troops.
As with all things Clintonian, she left herself an exit, reportedly insisting during post-speech questioning at the Council on Foreign Relations that her hawkish flight away from Obamas policy was simply an intensification and acceleration of it (The Guardian, Nov. 19). But, as The Guardian points out, the president deliberately sought to pre-empt some of Clintons suggestionssuch as a no-fly zone in Syriaduring (earlier) remarks at the G20 this week, in which he said US experts had examined such options and decided they would be counterproductive.
So Clintons address comes at a very delicate time for the Democrats. Both the President and his present Secretary of State, have not only predicted a cease-fire for the area, they also have signaled a willingness to join forces with Russia to aid local tribes and other anti-ISIS forces in Syria. Instead, Hillary Clinton is pushing for a go-it-alone American expansion of the war. This is not a subtle difference. Its the difference between unilateral warfare and multi-lateral cooperation against terrorism. This is not a well-thought-out policy. It seems more like a political campaign move, a bit of macho in hopes of attracting some presidential votes away from the Republicans.
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http://sandiegofreepress.org/2015/11/hillary-the-hawk/
This escalation of her rhetoric defies recent commentary from foreign policy professionals pointing out that the defeat several days ago of ISIS fighters whod taken the northern Iraq city of Sinjar and similar battlefield victories in Syria has been partly responsible for a major shift in ISIS thinking; they have adapted to the loss of territory to a policy of world-wide terrorism, something that led to the downfall of Al Qaeda. So, while President Obama and his Secretary of State John Kerry are predicting a cease-fire agreement with forces on the ground in Syria (NYT, November 17, among many others, like PBS) Hillary Clinton is joining the Republican candidates and calling for the insertion of American ground troops.
As with all things Clintonian, she left herself an exit, reportedly insisting during post-speech questioning at the Council on Foreign Relations that her hawkish flight away from Obamas policy was simply an intensification and acceleration of it (The Guardian, Nov. 19). But, as The Guardian points out, the president deliberately sought to pre-empt some of Clintons suggestionssuch as a no-fly zone in Syriaduring (earlier) remarks at the G20 this week, in which he said US experts had examined such options and decided they would be counterproductive.
So Clintons address comes at a very delicate time for the Democrats. Both the President and his present Secretary of State, have not only predicted a cease-fire for the area, they also have signaled a willingness to join forces with Russia to aid local tribes and other anti-ISIS forces in Syria. Instead, Hillary Clinton is pushing for a go-it-alone American expansion of the war. This is not a subtle difference. Its the difference between unilateral warfare and multi-lateral cooperation against terrorism. This is not a well-thought-out policy. It seems more like a political campaign move, a bit of macho in hopes of attracting some presidential votes away from the Republicans.
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http://sandiegofreepress.org/2015/11/hillary-the-hawk/
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Hillary The HAWK (Original Post)
Segami
Nov 2015
OP
Hillary is #4(!) among recipients from the defense industry (i.e., war profiteers) ...
Scuba
Nov 2015
#7
the original article contains no bold text. odd how the text became bold in copy/paste nt
msongs
Nov 2015
#2
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)1. But...this time it will be different. K&R
Segami
(14,923 posts)4. Has anything really changed since 2007?
Last edited Fri Nov 20, 2015, 08:34 PM - Edit history (1)
The Weapons industry really love Hillary.......MORE than republicans!
Meanwhile, a couple of flashback headlines from 2007:
Weapons Industry Dumps Republicans, Backs Hillary
The U.S. arms industry has all but abandoned its traditional allies in the Republican party and is putting their money on Hillary Clinton.
The U.S. arms industry is backing Hillary Clinton for President and has all but abandoned its traditional allies in the Republican party. Mrs Clinton has also emerged as Wall Street's favourite. Investment bankers have opened their wallets in unprecedented numbers for the New York senator over the past three months and, in the process, dumped their earlier favourite, Barack Obama.
Mrs. Clinton's wooing of the defence industry is all the more remarkable given the frosty relations between Bill Clinton and the military during his presidency. An analysis of campaign contributions shows senior defence industry employees are pouring money into her war chest in the belief that their generosity will be repaid many times over with future defence contracts.
Employees of the top five U.S. arms manufacturers -- Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Northrop-Grumman, General Dynamics and Raytheon -- gave Democratic presidential candidates $103,900, with only $86,800 going to the Republicans. "The contributions clearly suggest the arms industry has reached the conclusion that Democratic prospects for 2008 are very good indeed," said Thomas Edsall, an academic at Columbia University in New York.
Republican administrations are by tradition much stronger supporters of U.S. armaments programmes and Pentagon spending plans than Democratic governments. Relations between the arms industry and Bill Clinton soured when he slimmed down the military after the end of the Cold War. His wife, however, has been careful not to make the same mistake.
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http://www.alternet.org/story/65869/weapons_industry_dumps_republicans,_backs_hillary
The U.S. arms industry has all but abandoned its traditional allies in the Republican party and is putting their money on Hillary Clinton.
The U.S. arms industry is backing Hillary Clinton for President and has all but abandoned its traditional allies in the Republican party. Mrs Clinton has also emerged as Wall Street's favourite. Investment bankers have opened their wallets in unprecedented numbers for the New York senator over the past three months and, in the process, dumped their earlier favourite, Barack Obama.
Mrs. Clinton's wooing of the defence industry is all the more remarkable given the frosty relations between Bill Clinton and the military during his presidency. An analysis of campaign contributions shows senior defence industry employees are pouring money into her war chest in the belief that their generosity will be repaid many times over with future defence contracts.
Employees of the top five U.S. arms manufacturers -- Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Northrop-Grumman, General Dynamics and Raytheon -- gave Democratic presidential candidates $103,900, with only $86,800 going to the Republicans. "The contributions clearly suggest the arms industry has reached the conclusion that Democratic prospects for 2008 are very good indeed," said Thomas Edsall, an academic at Columbia University in New York.
Republican administrations are by tradition much stronger supporters of U.S. armaments programmes and Pentagon spending plans than Democratic governments. Relations between the arms industry and Bill Clinton soured when he slimmed down the military after the end of the Cold War. His wife, however, has been careful not to make the same mistake.
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http://www.alternet.org/story/65869/weapons_industry_dumps_republicans,_backs_hillary
Defense Industry Embraces Democrats, Hillary By Far The Favorite
- The defense industry this year abandoned its decade-long commitment to the Republican Party, funneling the lion share of its contributions to Democratic presidential candidates, especially to Hillary Clinton who far out-paced all her competitors.
- Senator Clinton took in $52,600, more than half of the total going to all Democrats, and a figure equaling 60 percent of the sum going to the entire GOP field. Her closest competitor for defense industry money is former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney (R.), who raised $32,000.
- No other Democrat came near Clinton's totals. Running second to her in the competition for Pentagon contractors' cash was Senator Chris Dodd (D-Conn), who raised $13,200, almost all from executives of General Dynamics which has a major submarine building facility in Groton, Conn.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/10/17/defense-industry-embraces_n_68927.html
This is from 2014:
Hillary Inc. The Military-Industrial Candidate
Analysts were right to say that the Republican takeover of Congress bodes well for the war machine: already we see the levers of power slowly shifting in reverse, eager to get back to salad days of post-9/11 wartime spending.
But waiting in the wings, Hillary Clinton just may prove to be what the defense establishment has been waiting for, and more. Superior to all in money, name recognition, and influence, she is poised to compete aggressively for the Democratic nomination for president. She might just win the Oval Office. And by most measures she would be the most formidable hawk this country has seen in a generation.
It is clear that she is behind the use of force in anything that has gone on in this cabinet. She is a Democratic hawk and that is her track record. Thats the flag shes planted, said Gordon Adams, a national security budget expert who was an associate director in President Bill Clintons Office of Management and Budget.
Karen Kwiatkowski, a retired Air Force lieutenant colonel who has spent her post-service days protesting the war policies in Iraq and Afghanistan, is more blunt. Interventionism is a business and it has a constituency and she is tapping into it, she tells TAC. She is for the military industrial complex, and she is for the neoconservatives.
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http://www.globalresearch.ca/hillary-inc-the-military-industrial-candidate/5415651
Analysts were right to say that the Republican takeover of Congress bodes well for the war machine: already we see the levers of power slowly shifting in reverse, eager to get back to salad days of post-9/11 wartime spending.
But waiting in the wings, Hillary Clinton just may prove to be what the defense establishment has been waiting for, and more. Superior to all in money, name recognition, and influence, she is poised to compete aggressively for the Democratic nomination for president. She might just win the Oval Office. And by most measures she would be the most formidable hawk this country has seen in a generation.
It is clear that she is behind the use of force in anything that has gone on in this cabinet. She is a Democratic hawk and that is her track record. Thats the flag shes planted, said Gordon Adams, a national security budget expert who was an associate director in President Bill Clintons Office of Management and Budget.
Karen Kwiatkowski, a retired Air Force lieutenant colonel who has spent her post-service days protesting the war policies in Iraq and Afghanistan, is more blunt. Interventionism is a business and it has a constituency and she is tapping into it, she tells TAC. She is for the military industrial complex, and she is for the neoconservatives.
cont'
http://www.globalresearch.ca/hillary-inc-the-military-industrial-candidate/5415651
Scuba
(53,475 posts)7. Hillary is #4(!) among recipients from the defense industry (i.e., war profiteers) ...
According to opensecrets.org, Hillary is #4(!) among recipients from the defense industry (i.e., war profiteers), and is the sole Democrat among the top 14 of the list.
https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/3swcpz/sanders_i_have_never_heard_a_candidateneverwhos/cx15ahp
http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/recips.php?cycle=2016&ind=D
msongs
(67,393 posts)2. the original article contains no bold text. odd how the text became bold in copy/paste nt
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)3. Yes - how does that happen? It's as if it was bolded for emphasis, like nearly every OP on DU.[n/t]
Segami
(14,923 posts)5. Grow up and move on if...
you have nothing more to add but distractions.......your tactics are really getting old.
Really,.....take some advice and grow up!
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)6. Why does she hate Obama?
AzDar
(14,023 posts)8. Her mask is slipping...