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WillyT

(72,631 posts)
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 09:58 PM Nov 2015

True Or False: Bernie Sanders Is The Closest We Will Come To An FDR Democrat In Our Lifetimes ???

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Fundamnetal change, fundamental re-writing of the rules.

I say yes.


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True Or False: Bernie Sanders Is The Closest We Will Come To An FDR Democrat In Our Lifetimes ??? (Original Post) WillyT Nov 2015 OP
Unanswerable question. mahina Nov 2015 #1
Depends on how long you expect to live, I guess. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2015 #3
Me too, I am only 67 and feel like I am slipping away pretty fast. Mental going fast, Herman Cain LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #5
Only? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2015 #9
Well I have a 2 year old lab that I worry about. He freaked out one day when I hit the floor from a LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #14
My problem is I'm unhealthy and could pop at any time demwing Nov 2015 #11
In the time you have lived. Kokonoe Nov 2015 #27
I hope not... Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2015 #2
Don't forget refusing to ban lynchings and leaving domestics out of the new deal. Bernie is not bravenak Nov 2015 #7
That's The Best Part... It's FDR Without The Baggage !!! WillyT Nov 2015 #10
So, you're basically saying... Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2015 #15
Well I Know This... FDR Had 4 Terms, And The Dems Held The Congress For About 40 Years... WillyT Nov 2015 #16
I am with you. I wouldn't associate with FDR for that very reason. Kalidurga Nov 2015 #28
FDR had something Bernie may not have yeoman6987 Nov 2015 #4
Bernie would never leave domestics out of the new deal or refuse to ban lynching. He would NOT!! bravenak Nov 2015 #6
FDR was a millionaire (back when the word meant something) who shepherded the nation MADem Nov 2015 #8
Pretty hard for me to see Bernie achieving BootinUp Nov 2015 #12
FDR's Conservative 100 Days BlueStateLib Nov 2015 #13
OMG. You clearly know nothing about FDR. nt onehandle Nov 2015 #17
This. Agschmid Nov 2015 #22
Most Ironic Post On A Democratic Website EVER !!! WillyT Nov 2015 #24
Your argument isn't very convincing, but I bet it's all you've got. nm rhett o rick Nov 2015 #32
I took History 101 so the answer is NO leftofcool Nov 2015 #18
So which politician is closer? nm rhett o rick Nov 2015 #33
Since the Socialists DESPISED FDR, your premise is false. eom MohRokTah Nov 2015 #19
Your post makes no sense. I don't think socialists like Sen Sanders either. He isn't a socialist rhett o rick Nov 2015 #30
I voted yes... malokvale77 Nov 2015 #20
Yes!!! Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #21
The future is unknown. PowerToThePeople Nov 2015 #23
Doesn't matter BKH70041 Nov 2015 #25
Lighten up a little demwing Nov 2015 #34
Jerry Brown is closer LuvLoogie Nov 2015 #26
True in spirit, but I'm an optimist and think change for the better will be escalating (nt) Babel_17 Nov 2015 #29
Ridiculous comparison Hekate Nov 2015 #31

mahina

(17,505 posts)
1. Unanswerable question.
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 10:00 PM
Nov 2015

So far? Answerable. In the future? How could I possibly know that?

Seriously?

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
3. Depends on how long you expect to live, I guess.
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 10:04 PM
Nov 2015

Me, I don't expect to make it too much longer, so I voted true.

LiberalArkie

(15,686 posts)
5. Me too, I am only 67 and feel like I am slipping away pretty fast. Mental going fast, Herman Cain
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 10:11 PM
Nov 2015

seems to be a reasonable candidate for the Republicans. I must be slipping away fast.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
9. Only?
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 10:16 PM
Nov 2015

I don't expect to make it anywhere near that far. I just want stick around long enough that my other beagle can pass with my arms around her like her companion did when his time came. None of us should go out alone.

LiberalArkie

(15,686 posts)
14. Well I have a 2 year old lab that I worry about. He freaked out one day when I hit the floor from a
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 10:29 PM
Nov 2015

vertigo attack. Scared both of us. I did not expect to make this far and the docs scare me. They keep saying I am as healthy as any normal 50 year old man. God I don't want to live to the point of being old and drooling. ;>

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
11. My problem is I'm unhealthy and could pop at any time
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 10:23 PM
Nov 2015

I'm counting in Bernie to usher in the millennial revolution, but who knows what's right around the corner?

Kokonoe

(2,485 posts)
27. In the time you have lived.
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 12:22 AM
Nov 2015

The question requires an interaction with your future, but only to vote for or against yourself.


 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
2. I hope not...
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 10:04 PM
Nov 2015

I mean, the New Deal was great, and his economic policies were pretty spot on. However, internment of Japanese-Americans is pretty fucking unforgivable. I wouldn't expect Bernie to pull that kind of shit.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
7. Don't forget refusing to ban lynchings and leaving domestics out of the new deal. Bernie is not
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 10:13 PM
Nov 2015

perfect, but he would not make those kinds of compromises ever.

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
10. That's The Best Part... It's FDR Without The Baggage !!!
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 10:20 PM
Nov 2015
Wouldn't You Like A Democratic Nominee Without Any "Baggage" ?

I know I would.


 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
15. So, you're basically saying...
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 10:33 PM
Nov 2015

it's not FDR?

I think Bernie is great. I think Hillary is great. However Bernie and Hillary have more in common than Bernie and FDR. I think trying to equate any modern presidential candidate with FDR is an exercise in futility. It was a vastly different time and place, and Sanders and FDR are VASTLY different candidates because of such.

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
16. Well I Know This... FDR Had 4 Terms, And The Dems Held The Congress For About 40 Years...
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 10:46 PM
Nov 2015

Until we fucked it up.


Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
28. I am with you. I wouldn't associate with FDR for that very reason.
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 01:35 AM
Nov 2015

He was dictator lite, in that he didn't kill near as many people as the other guy. But, rounding up people just because of their countries of origin is plain wrong and it's disgusting. He also had some Germans (mostly single men) and Italians (not sure the demographic make up of this group) rounded up and they were put in different camps separated from their families, but the camps were somewhat nicer than the Japanese camps.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
4. FDR had something Bernie may not have
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 10:10 PM
Nov 2015

Majorities in both chambers. But even if he does, FDR didn't have to deal with today's GOP at all. Not even close.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
6. Bernie would never leave domestics out of the new deal or refuse to ban lynching. He would NOT!!
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 10:12 PM
Nov 2015

He has too much integrity to ever stand for that as President. I would vote Bernie over FDR.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
8. FDR was a millionaire (back when the word meant something) who shepherded the nation
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 10:13 PM
Nov 2015

through a very challenging economic period and the worst war known to modern humankind. He was not "universally beloved" particularly before the war. People who hated him, hated him rather enthusiastically. Many found him autocratic (Court packing...? Imagine Bush trying to pull that stunt! Imagine SANDERS trying to sell it...!).

He directed the creation of the atomic bomb, he incarcerated Japanese people for the crime of their ethnicity without any due process, did the same (albeit on a much smaller scale) to some German and Italian Americans, and he kicked the can down the road when it came to starting to address issues of equality and desegregation with the black community. Ironically, his 'raised racist' VP was the one who started the ball rolling with the desegregation of the Armed Forces.

FDR's term was shaped by grave challenges. Not sure if anyone would have liked him at all if he'd exhibited those same "My way or the highway" prerogatives in a mellow, peacetime environment with a more robust economy.

BootinUp

(46,924 posts)
12. Pretty hard for me to see Bernie achieving
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 10:24 PM
Nov 2015

similar things as FDR. I think it takes more political skill and smarts than Bernie has demonstrated at this point.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
30. Your post makes no sense. I don't think socialists like Sen Sanders either. He isn't a socialist
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:05 PM
Nov 2015

and Clinton trying to smear him as such is childish, and I think most Americans will see thru the subterfuge.

FDR helped the 99% get back on their feet and that's what Sanders does. It is a stark contrast to Clinton that believes that a healthy Wall Street is more important than helping the 16,000,000 children living in poverty. No one will mistake her for a FDR Democrat.

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
20. I voted yes...
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 11:07 PM
Nov 2015

But I think Bernie is better. he has a natural empathy that comes through in his policy stances.

Unlike a poster above, I think he is plenty smart enough.

BKH70041

(961 posts)
25. Doesn't matter
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 12:11 AM
Nov 2015

I hear this crap all the time.

The D's say "Oh, we need another president like an FDR." The R's say "Oh, we need another president like Reagan." What's the point in this? Nothing, absolutely nothing.

FDR is dead. He was a man of his time; nothing more. There will never be another close. He isn't going to rise from the dead anytime soon. Bernie is Bernie. Hillary is Hillary. Take it or leave it.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
29. True in spirit, but I'm an optimist and think change for the better will be escalating (nt)
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 02:04 AM
Nov 2015

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