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riversedge

(70,063 posts)
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 08:16 AM Nov 2015

Be Afraid Republicans As Hillary Clinton Looks Like A President At Democratic Forum

And I agree



Be Afraid Republicans As Hillary Clinton Looks Like A President At Democratic Forum


http://www.politicususa.com/2015/11/06/hillary-clinton-south-carolina-forum.html
By: Jason Easley


Friday, November 6th, 2015, 9:43 pm



hillary clinton rachel maddow

Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton experienced another campaign highlight by delivering a strong, intelligent, and presidential performance at the South Carolina Democratic forum.

Rachel Maddow asked Clinton what she would say to African-American voters who are wondering if their opportunity for meaningful change had passed. Clinton discussed her record and said that President Obama doesn’t get the credit for the great job that he has done. Clinton said that wanted to build on Obama’s success and go further. Hillary Clinton said, “I want to be the president for the struggling, the striving, and the successful.”
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Hillary Clinton looked and sounded like a president during the forum. Her wide range of experience showed as she addressed questions from a federal, state, and even local perspective.

Clinton delivered a strong performance. She was able to speak passionately about issues from criminal justice to the violence in our society. There is no candidate on the Republican side that is as talented as Hillary Clinton. With each national appearance, Clinton is getting stronger.


She is showing exactly why Republicans are so afraid to face her next November. The Republican who will face Clinton next fall is going to begin at a major disadvantage. The difference between 2008 Hillary Clinton and 2016 Hillary Clinton is night and day.


Be Afraid Republicans As Hillary Clinton Looks Like A President At Democratic Forum was written by Jason Easley for PoliticusUSA.

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Be Afraid Republicans As Hillary Clinton Looks Like A President At Democratic Forum (Original Post) riversedge Nov 2015 OP
Hi river - is there a link? eom BlueMTexpat Nov 2015 #1
Added. Thanks. riversedge Nov 2015 #13
Yeah it was good. JaneyVee Nov 2015 #2
What impressed me was how the Democratic candidates are clearly more suitable than any Repuk. olegramps Nov 2015 #44
All the pomp and grandeur necessary for a coronation OakCliffDem Nov 2015 #3
Interesting statement ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #33
We are looking for the best president for America. Nt hack89 Nov 2015 #35
Ugh! Dawgs Nov 2015 #54
Clinton reminds me so much of Obama. He must have really influenced her, as he has so many. Fred Sanders Nov 2015 #4
And I do think she has learned a lot from Pres Obama... riversedge Nov 2015 #15
Yes, Hillary has changed a lot of hearts and minds since 2008. Thank you, Fred. Cha Nov 2015 #61
She looks and sounds presidential. leftofcool Nov 2015 #5
For equal time: The same writer said "Bernie shined" at the debate Armstead Nov 2015 #6
She came on and I turned it off...n/t monmouth4 Nov 2015 #7
Of course. Just like the JJ dinner: a mass exodus of Bernie fans. JaneyVee Nov 2015 #9
They must be afraid she is the right candidate and a grand exit to support Hillary. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #11
Not at all, I find her boring, plastic and phoney...n/t monmouth4 Nov 2015 #18
You prefer hand waving, shouting and grumpy on only one subject endlessly? No problem! Some do! Fred Sanders Nov 2015 #20
That's all you have? Try harder...n/t monmouth4 Nov 2015 #21
Just trying to respond in kind. Fred Sanders Nov 2015 #23
Try harder than boring? That is how I hear from Sanders, speeches requiring shouting. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #24
Closing your mind is not a good sign of a progressive. Just saying. riversedge Nov 2015 #16
My mind is quite open, I've heard her schtick many times before. Nothing new unless someone else monmouth4 Nov 2015 #19
Sanders is a good follower, he only had a few issues when he first started running and now he has Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #26
Clinton was talking about lots of issues. AlbertCat Nov 2015 #38
I have now turned YOU off - BlueMTexpat Nov 2015 #58
Be afraid citizens of the world, as well. eomer Nov 2015 #8
Same as when military action is taken by anyone. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #12
Yes, war is always a horror. eomer Nov 2015 #17
And the hawkish president applies to Sanders who has voted several times for military action and Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #22
Pretty clearly less so, from their records and rhetoric. eomer Nov 2015 #25
He has voted more time for military action than Clinton, so if we are running on records then Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #27
You mean when he voted to support President Bill Clinton's Kosovo War? eomer Nov 2015 #31
One example, it is his record and he has said he would take military action and use drones. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #36
I'm to the left of all the candidates I can choose among, for every position. eomer Nov 2015 #50
And he is far to the right on the gun issue. Are you with him on his stand? Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #51
He's in favor of reasonable regulations on guns. eomer Nov 2015 #52
His voting record shows differently, he has danced on this several times, he knows he has voted Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #59
His no votes were safe votes that he uses to burnish his creds. nt Fla Dem Nov 2015 #45
Senator Sanders giving his reasons for voting against the Iraq War authorization: eomer Nov 2015 #49
She is more qualified than any of the presidential candidates, this makes an easy Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #10
She is more qualified than any of the presidential candidates, AlbertCat Nov 2015 #39
In for the fact the link you provided either does not know what Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #48
So is Dick Cheney. Dawgs Nov 2015 #56
I agree Progressive dog Nov 2015 #14
K&R mcar Nov 2015 #28
this is reminiscent of the medias obsession with biden retrowire Nov 2015 #29
You need to take your advice--> just report the facts riversedge Nov 2015 #47
The Worst Candidate For The People That We Could Ever Hope For cantbeserious Nov 2015 #30
K&R Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #32
That's right.. be very afraid republicons. Cha Nov 2015 #34
The establishment likes Hillary much more than they like Bernie fasttense Nov 2015 #37
Hillary, they know, AlbertCat Nov 2015 #42
Sounded like the same ol' same ol'...again. AlbertCat Nov 2015 #40
Its a conspiracy I tell yah! riversedge Nov 2015 #46
They saved the best for last. riversedge Nov 2015 #57
K&R. lunamagica Nov 2015 #41
Guy in suit talks with "don't trust liberal media" sign holder, mahannah Nov 2015 #43
Hold on a sec. randome Nov 2015 #53
"I want to be the president for the struggling, the striving, and the successful." God.. EndElectoral Nov 2015 #55
Hillary was Presidential. Cha Nov 2015 #60

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
44. What impressed me was how the Democratic candidates are clearly more suitable than any Repuk.
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 10:26 AM
Nov 2015

They are were well informed and could address the issues with constructive ideas for the well being of the nation. Contrast this to the crap that the Republican candidates spew that borders on the ridiculous. I can only hope that the average working class citizen wakes up and stops voting against their own interest.

OakCliffDem

(1,274 posts)
3. All the pomp and grandeur necessary for a coronation
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 08:25 AM
Nov 2015

Or we could LISTEN to Bernie Sanders and find the best President for progressives.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
4. Clinton reminds me so much of Obama. He must have really influenced her, as he has so many.
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 08:35 AM
Nov 2015

She has changed, become more liberal and she seems to feel quite comfortable moving politically to the left...Clinton is a progression and extension and continuation of the remarkable work in remarkable and difficult times of Obama, who still has a yesr to go to help the change along....folks are so fukcing impatient for change...it is coming....patience.

Evolution over revolution is my motto.

riversedge

(70,063 posts)
15. And I do think she has learned a lot from Pres Obama...
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 09:11 AM
Nov 2015

Esp. when it comes to diplomacy in foreign matters.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
6. For equal time: The same writer said "Bernie shined" at the debate
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 08:55 AM
Nov 2015
http://www.politicususa.com/2015/11/06/rachel-maddow-bernie-sanders-democratic-forum.html

Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) shined at the South Carolina Democratic forum where he sat down with Rachel Maddow and delivered a stinging criticism of the media.....


...Unlike Martin O’Malley, who came before him at this event, Sanders is not dodging the questions. Sen. Sanders called out the media for begging him to attack Hillary Clinton. Sanders said that unlike Republicans who attack each other in stupid and destructive ways, he and Clinton are having a substantive debate.

......The South Carolina Democratic forum is one of the best events of the year, and Bernie Sanders is shining in this format.

monmouth4

(9,686 posts)
19. My mind is quite open, I've heard her schtick many times before. Nothing new unless someone else
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 09:21 AM
Nov 2015

says it first...

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
26. Sanders is a good follower, he only had a few issues when he first started running and now he has
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 09:29 AM
Nov 2015

added others. Like the Everyready Bunny, keeps repeating the same thing over and over until he realized Clinton was talking about lots of issues.

eomer

(3,845 posts)
17. Yes, war is always a horror.
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 09:18 AM
Nov 2015

That's why a hawkish President who sees war as often the answer would be a continuation of the US as a serious threat to lives around the world.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
22. And the hawkish president applies to Sanders who has voted several times for military action and
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 09:24 AM
Nov 2015

says he will use military action and drones.

eomer

(3,845 posts)
25. Pretty clearly less so, from their records and rhetoric.
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 09:29 AM
Nov 2015

And I see at least a chance of Bernie bucking the system, pushing back on it, when he's in a better position to do so. With Hillary I don't see that being a possibility.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
27. He has voted more time for military action than Clinton, so if we are running on records then
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 09:31 AM
Nov 2015

he is running on his record. Clinton is running very well with her record.

eomer

(3,845 posts)
31. You mean when he voted to support President Bill Clinton's Kosovo War?
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 09:47 AM
Nov 2015

Hillary didn't get to cast a public vote at that time, of course, being First Lady and adviser to the President.

What's the count for those times when they both had the opportunity to cast a public vote?

eomer

(3,845 posts)
50. I'm to the left of all the candidates I can choose among, for every position.
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 11:27 AM
Nov 2015

I'm definitely to the left of Bernie on the questions of war. But it's very clear to me based on all the available information that Bernie is to the left of Hillary on this and probably everything else. He's closer to my position than she is. (I discount, of course, Hillary's sliding to the left during primary season as I think any reasonable person would.)

eomer

(3,845 posts)
52. He's in favor of reasonable regulations on guns.
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 11:40 AM
Nov 2015

Which isn't the "far to the right" position on the issue.

I'm in favor of reasonable regulations too. Details need to be worked out but I think Bernie's got it about right in the proposals I hear him making.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
59. His voting record shows differently, he has danced on this several times, he knows he has voted
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 05:24 PM
Nov 2015

against the Brady Bill more than once, yes, he is in the far right group on this issue.

eomer

(3,845 posts)
49. Senator Sanders giving his reasons for voting against the Iraq War authorization:
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 11:22 AM
Nov 2015
Mr. Speaker, in the brief time I have, let me give five reasons why I am opposed to giving the President a blank check to launch a unilateral invasion and occupation of Iraq and why I will vote against this resolution. One, I have not heard any estimates of how many young American men and women might die in such a war or how many tens of thousands of women and children in Iraq might also be killed. As a caring Nation, we should do everything we can to prevent the horrible suffering that a war will cause. War must be the last recourse in international relations, not the first. Second, I am deeply concerned about the precedent that a unilateral invasion of Iraq could establish in terms of international law and the role of the United Nations. If President Bush believes that the U.S. can go to war at any time against any nation, what moral or legal objection could our government raise if another country chose to do the same thing?

Third, the United States is now involved in a very difficult war against international terrorism as we learned tragically on September 11. We are opposed by Osama bin Laden and religious fanatics who are prepared to engage in a kind of warfare that we have never experienced before. I agree with Brent Scowcroft, Republican former National Security Advisor for President George Bush, Sr., who stated, ``An attack on Iraq at this time would seriously jeopardize, if not destroy, the global counterterrorist campaign we have undertaken.''

Fourth, at a time when this country has a $6 trillion national debt and a growing deficit, we should be clear that a war and a long-term American occupation ofIraq could be extremely expensive.

Fifth, I am concerned about the problems of so-called unintended consequences. Who will govern Iraq when Saddam Hussein is removed and what role will the U.S. play in ensuing a civil war that could develop in that country? Will moderate governments in the region who have large Islamic fundamentalist populations be overthrown and replaced by extremists? Will the bloody conflict between Israel and the Palestinian Authority be exacerbated? And these are just a few of the questions that remain unanswered.

http://www.sanders.senate.gov/video/flashback-rep-bernie-sanders-opposes-iraq-war


Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
10. She is more qualified than any of the presidential candidates, this makes an easy
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 09:05 AM
Nov 2015

Choice for me. She has foreign experience and we live in a global world, she remained calm in eleven hours of Benghazi testimony.
She has been in a position to be in on big decision making. She has issues important to Americans.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
48. In for the fact the link you provided either does not know what
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 11:18 AM
Nov 2015

Accomplishments are it did a very poor job of researching, I am discounting their report. Allow me to redirect your interest to a site which does research and develops a report which doesn't report "failed", hopefully the site is being run by someone who has kept their day job.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
29. this is reminiscent of the medias obsession with biden
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 09:34 AM
Nov 2015

be wary when the media tries picking a favorite for you.

*Biden farts* media: Wow, what a PRESIDENTIAL fart!
*Hillary sneezes* media: that's a PRESIDENTIAL sneeze dontcha think?!

media, please... just report the facts, your opinion is unnecessary.

Cha

(296,789 posts)
34. That's right.. be very afraid republicons.
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 09:55 AM
Nov 2015
Hillary Clinton looked and sounded like a president during the forum. Her wide range of experience showed as she addressed questions from a federal, state, and even local perspective.

Clinton delivered a strong performance. She was able to speak passionately about issues from criminal justice to the violence in our society. There is no candidate on the Republican side that is as talented as Hillary Clinton. With each national appearance, Clinton is getting stronger.


http://www.politicususa.com/2015/11/06/hillary-clinton-south-carolina-forum.html

By: Jason Easley

Mahalo rivers~
 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
37. The establishment likes Hillary much more than they like Bernie
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 10:10 AM
Nov 2015

Hillary, they know, will be very similar to Obama and all his TPP loving, Social Security cutting inclinations.

Bernie on the other hand makes the oligarchs afraid, very afraid.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
40. Sounded like the same ol' same ol'...again.
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 10:19 AM
Nov 2015

Does she go last now so she'll know what progressive issues the others are talking about?

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
53. Hold on a sec.
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 11:40 AM
Nov 2015

What are her thoughts on pyramids?
[hr][font color="blue"][center]"If you're bored then you're boring." -Harvey Danger[/center][/font][hr]

EndElectoral

(4,213 posts)
55. "I want to be the president for the struggling, the striving, and the successful." God..
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 12:39 PM
Nov 2015

She speaks in such generalities. What a canned response with lovely alliteration.

And I think the successful will definitely welcome her presidency.

Actually, I prefer a President who challenges the successful to make America a better place for the struggling and the striving.

I just don't see how so many are buffaloed by this kind of non-specific general doublespeak.

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