2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forum"Special ops group attacks Obama over bin Laden bragging, leaks" at Reuters
Special ops group attacks Obama over bin Laden bragging, leaksBy Mark Hosenball at Reuters
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/15/us-usa-campaign-binladen-ad-idUSBRE87E01F20120815
"SNIP...........................................
Leaders of the group, the Special Operations OPSEC Education Fund Inc, say it is nonpartisan and unconnected to any political party or presidential campaign. It is registered as a so-called social welfare group, which means its primary purpose is to further the common good and its political activities should be secondary.
In the past, military exploits have been turned against presidential candidates by outside groups, most famously the Swift Boat ads in 2004 that questioned Democratic nominee John Kerry's Vietnam War service.
The OPSEC group says it is not political and aims to save American lives. Its first public salvo is a 22-minute film that includes criticism of Obama and his administration. The film, to be released on Wednesday, was seen in advance by Reuters.
"Mr. President, you did not kill Osama bin Laden, America did. The work that the American military has done killed Osama bin Laden. You did not," Ben Smith, identified as a Navy SEAL, says in the film.
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applegrove
(118,622 posts)When will we actually know who leaked the stuff the GOP is complaining about? Probably not until way after the election.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,406 posts)Its a little hard to get outraged about leaks when I cant even figure out what Im supposed to be getting upset about.
applegrove
(118,622 posts)or Situation Room. I don't buy it.
ellenfl
(8,660 posts)re the partisan issue . . . methinks they doth protest too much.
ellen fl
applegrove
(118,622 posts)who leaked to set Obama up in the election. Do you know when we will find out, if we find out, who leaked the details of the bin Laden raid?
progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)ellenfl
(8,660 posts)Cha
(297,154 posts)said they were hacks or something to that effect?!
ellenfl
(8,660 posts)of course, we have subsequently learned who they are and that they are, in fact, very partisan. i have to think that they will be excoriated by their contemporaries for their partisan attack. surely we learned SOMETHING from the original swift boaters.
ellen fl
Cha
(297,154 posts)if the "media" said they appeared to be partisan then they called them "liars".
I felt more confident about dealing with the swiftboat wannabes when I read this about Bill McRaven..
"Bill McRaven, leader of Seal Team 6, was interviewed on Fox News
and the Fox guy (I forget which one), congratulated McRaven for getting Bin Ladin (and implying that Obama had nothing to do with it) but McRaven immediately said that he wasn't the one to congratulate, the President was the man in charge, and the president made the call all by himself. Fox tried several times to get McRaven to take credit, and McRaven kept saying he only followed orders given to him by the President. And McRaven pointed out that if the mission had failed, everyone would've blamed Obama fast enough. McRaven was very convincing.
I'm sure they can get McRaven, leader of the team that took out Bin Ladin, to do an ad, and I think that'd make the pub puppets like the jerks they are.
They swiftboated Kerry and succeeded, at least partially because the Viet Nam war was a long time ago. History is fuzzy and you can fudge it, especially since Kerry responded all wrong. The killing of Bin Ladin happened yesterday and is still fresh in everyone's mind, and Obama's team will hit back fast and hard. I think this attempt at swiftboating won't work, and might even backfire big time."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/125171138#post17
cspanlovr
(1,470 posts)unblock
(52,196 posts)or perhaps a soon-to-be former navy seal?
in any event, the quote above is overtly political (and partisan).
on the other hand, thanks, guys, for reminding america about the whole nailing bin laden thing.
no matter what you say about it, that story helps obama.
Cooley Hurd
(26,877 posts)...so this "non-partisan" group hasn't a fucking clue what they're talking about.
Thrill
(19,178 posts)And Democrats did some shit like this. The media would be outraged.
gkhouston
(21,642 posts)Proud Liberal Dem
(24,406 posts)unless they're suggesting that this was a rogue operation, which I doubt, President Obama took ultimate responsibility for the mission. Would they have blamed the Seal team if the mission had failed???!
Amonester
(11,541 posts)Seriously???
Many in there need to grow up ASAP and it's not the President.
progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)they have to win this way. Typical losers. I don't care if they're Navy Seals.. whatever.
"America" did not kill OBL. The President and the military did NOT consult me. The credit goes to the CiC, the General, and the people involved in the raid.
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Ben Smith should be booted from the Navy, if he's even still in it.
Zoeisright
(8,339 posts)kiss my ass. And then fuck off.
jenmito
(37,326 posts)swift-boated since HE was the little-known challenger.
mzmolly
(50,985 posts)the leader of the US military.
Jessy169
(602 posts)The president of Special Operations OPSEC Education Fund Inc, Scott Taylor, is a former Navy SEAL who in 2010 ran unsuccessfully for the Republican nomination for a congressional seat in Virginia.
gkhouston
(21,642 posts)LiberalFighter
(50,888 posts)They are not professional their opinion is no better than bin Laden's.
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)A Senate report and a CIA operative say Bush & military leaders let bin Laden escape:
http://www.infowars.com/articles/iraq/let_laden_escape.htm
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2009/11/senate_report_b.php
Truth: It was President Obama that got the job done and there's not a damn thing these sniveling assclowns can do about it. They will look small and petty and oh so Republican.
CabCurious
(954 posts)Monk06
(7,675 posts)Yes he's a bagger.
By Benjamin Smith
The sun shone bright and a nation asleep
No eye to the skies, no S.O.P.s
Ignorance inbound on American flights
Now everything is different, were gonna have to fight
You never see it coming, thats the only way
What the hell just happened! It was a beautiful day.
BOOM
Planes crahing
Buildings falling
People dying
American death .. Islamic Jihad
I Have to love to kill to get to my god.
72 virgins and some boys to boot
Paradise i say its just a reason to loot
Dar al islam is the end of my game
If I let you live you must live in your shame
I am your master and you must behave
You just have to accept, you will be my slave
BOOM
Planes crahing
Buildings falling
People dying
American death .. Islamic Jihad
3000 dead in a blink of an eye
When evil attacks .. Im gonna get mine
Pipe hitters everywhere beating the bush
Spec Ops goin in there jumpin the kush
Afghanistan, Iraq, the world on hook
How could it be extreme when its in your book?
Plain as day, turning to night
The commands in your book is the reason we fight.
Strapped with bombs you try to take me with you
Alla Akbar you say before I kill you
NEVER FORGET we say with somber rage in our heart
Read the Koran! Learn why you do your part
Were not the ones who make you meet your maker
Were just the ones who arrange the meetin!
BOOM
Planes crahing
Buildings falling
People dying
American death .. Islamic Jihad
Its funny in time, the farther we get
If we dont remember, we seem to forget
Remember, in their peaceful view of the world well all be dead
If we dont heed our past, It will happen again
10 years, 10 years . Whats the score?
Remember the fallen and fight for them more
Forget at your peril .
Were still a nation at war!
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)And Bush didn't.
The end.
Every time they make this argument, people will be reminded, Obama killed OBL. The rest will be noise because its obviously a lame argument for them to make.
Kerry could be swift boated because most people had no idea what happened to him in Vietnam ... and they certainly didn't have personal knowledge of what happened there. So it was easy to tell a lie and get it to stick.
Not true in this case. Almost everyone in the US wanted OBL captured or killed. And we all remember EXACTLY how we felt when we learned that Obama killed him. We have personal knowledge of the events. There is no lie that can change what we already know to be true.
And their attempts to distort events, or to challenge what we all already know to be true will appear sad and desperate.
GallopingGhost
(2,404 posts)These attacks are going to make the GOP look very desperate.