Former VA Governor Doug Wilder:Hillary is going to have to change using the gender card

[bigdarryl]

He said this in an interview with Joe Madison his thinking is QUOTE:can you imagine me saying before I was elected Governor I keep saying I will be the first black Governor over and over again or Obama saying the same thing.Anyone agree with his statement?

[JRLeft]

1. She was pandering and it was weak.

[bigdarryl]

2. Because she says she will be the first woman elected President she's pandering?

Well the majority of primary voters are women as she's said before if anyone want to accuse me of pandering to woman QUOTE eal me in I'm pretty sure her campaign has done extensive polling on this and that's why she keeps saying it.That's my observation

[artislife]

9. So would Carly if she won.

Republican women have a woman to vote for, too

Jill Stein for the Greens.


Being a woman candidate for president isn't singular anymore.

[roguevalley]

34. as a woman, it makes me puke that she said that. Honestly, it does.

[haikugal]

3. As a woman it made me cringe.

[bigdarryl]

4. Not surprising woman are very hard on female candidates

[haikugal]

5. Nothing like being dismissed, well done.

[demmiblue]

16. That is a gender stereotype.

Nice going!

[JaneyVee]

6. As a woman it made me proud.

Women are oppressed no matter what socio-economic class we're in and I think it serves society well to have equal representation.

[haikugal]

7. Being equal isn't the problem, it's her pandering that the fact that she's female

is a reason to vote for her. I don't vote that way and hearing her do it made me cringe.

[boston bean]

8. The facts are this. She is a woman, there have been NO women presidents of the US.

Pointing that out, is nothing that should make you cringe.

It ought to make you proud she is out there achieving.

[artislife]

17. Carly has a shot!

You know this is special because there are 3 female candidates representing three parties.

And the minority candidates are all Republicans.


We have the only nonChristian, though!

Pretty interesting make up of the candidates.

[boston bean]

18. Carly can also say the same thing, doesn't mean people will vote for her.

But she has every right to say it.

Me, I don't think Hillary and Carly are even on the same playing field, but your mileage may vary.

[artislife]

22. I am just saying that gender alone

is not the way to go.

I like HP products, I think Carly and H have similar view points on the little guys who are getting squished by this economic set up.

[haikugal]

21. Pointing that out is insulting voters.

I don't need to be told that, or reminded. I don't think that being a woman has much to do with anything other than a first and as such doesn't need to be brought into a debate.

No 'should' required. If she is elected president then I'll be glad we finally elected a woman, as an aside.

[boston bean]

24. You feel insulted? Ok. Guess it must not take much then.

Me, I find it truthful, and I do think it is important a woman achieve the highest office. Not any woman, mind you. But Hillary, yes.

I think the first black president meant something very significant, as well as I think the first woman president would too.

People were very proud of that. What?? women can't be proud of other women, it's insulting when they are?

okay.......

[haikugal]

29. I said it's insulting to voters...guess you missed it.

It doesn't belong in a debate but you go girl!

[JaneyVee]

11. She didn't say vote for her because she's a woman...

She said being a woman is an asset.

[demwing]

20. Lol, you were being completely accusatory

and you knew it, which is why you tried to walk it back

[JaneyVee]

23. Walked it back? There are no edits to my post, and...

I could have left it at just the question but expanded to make sure it wasn't being accusatory.

[irisblue]

27. alert results

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No, that is pretty much an accusation. Who does she think she is fooling? Vile stuff, to call another woman an anti-feminist.

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[JaneyVee]

28. Wow. I'll take the high road on this ridiculous alert and edit it.

Thanks for info.

[Tarheel_Dem]

32. Oops! Looks like iris beat me to it. It was an unwarranted alert. n/t

[artislife]

12. Go Carly then.

Would she be second choice for you?

Actually, on this board there is a lot of Jill Stein for second choice.

[JaneyVee]

15. Carly's policies are anti-women.

[artislife]

19. To your point of view

She has a lot of women who think she represents them just fine.

[JaneyVee]

25. She's polling at 2%.

"A lot of women".

[artislife]

31. She's polling higher than O'Malley

As Mediaite notes, Fiorina’s lead has all but evaporated. She’s at six percent right now, according to a CBS poll, sitting in slumped over crinkled business-suited misery next to Jeb Bush.

I guess her being for a woman's right to not choose isn't helping her.




My argument isn't for Carly, it is that there are 3 women and the fact they are women isn't novel. There are 3 of them.

Hillary needs to convince the nonh supporters with policy instead of gender.

Those who are going to vote for any of the three women because they are the type of woman they admire are already in their columns.

The rest of us who care about other things don't really want to hear that refrain, it reminds us of the sad back stories on Idol or SYTYCD and we start to cringe every time it is brought up. We want to vote on a candidate on merit.

[demmiblue]

13. Me, too. n/t

[MichMan]

10. Pretty obvious

Everyone knows she is a woman. What is the point of constantly bringing it up if it isn't pandering?

[NCTraveler]

14. As a woman I fully disagree. It is of great importance to me.

We are so far from equal representation it is unreal. How are women's right currently doing under control of the good ole boys club? Sexist comments left and right hurled at Clinton. Still questions if a woman can do the job. Speak it as often as possible Clinton. As often as possible.

What would the republican and democratic debate stages look like if all men were removed?

[corkhead]

26. I think it is just a gentle nudge to all women to not forget to do their duty and vote for her

based solely on her gender.

[bigtree]

30. he's certainly not downplaying his historic governorship

...this is a dirt-dumb criticism. More than that, it's sophistry. Where does Wilder get off reducing her presidential bid to playing the 'gender card' (whatever that means)? This is exactly the same criticism Wilder and other black leaders receive from the right when they speak out or act on issues of race.

Hillary's a woman and she'll be representing issues important to women from an experienced perspective. Wilder and others who find that objectionable will just have to deal with it.

[Doctor_J]

33. Or Sanders saying, "I will be the first Jewish president", over and over. Good god.

OTOH, her campaign is pretty weak on the issues, so that horse will be beaten to death and then some.

Here's my take on it

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251675258