It's not about Bernie Sanders "making changes"

[Ron Green]

in our policies and laws. It's about his telling the truth clearly and often enough that THE PEOPLE make the changes, dragging their elected officials along to do this. (Or electing new officials who will.)

Please keep this in mind when posting in these threads.

[upaloopa]

1. Who are you addressing this to?

Are you telling everyone how they are to relate to a Bernie presidency?

[Ron Green]

3. To people who keep saying it.

[upaloopa]

5. Well I guess you are telling people how to

relate to a Bernie predidency. Good luck with that.

[stevenleser]

15. It's nonsense anyway. Without Bernie blowing sunshine up folks's posteriors

In effect claiming he can change things when he can't get any of his policy proposals passed, he'd lose 95% of his support.

These excuses people are making for supporting him in spite of that are some of the lamest sounding nonsense we have heard in the campaign yet and that includes from the other side of the aisle.

[Ron Green]

18. "It's nonsense anyway."

"What" is nonsense? The idea that people must demand of their government the changes Sanders is talking about? The idea that a Presidential candidate can bring a message of simple truth that resonates with large numbers of people?

???

[upaloopa]

19. Have you seen Cosmo? The Kardashians

are our first family.

[Ron Green]

24. Exactly. The big test in 2016 is whether enough Americans can

overcome their guilty pleasures (the Kardashians, sportsbiz, shopping, what have you) to the extent they exercise their roles as citizens and take some responsibility for governing.

Bernie Sanders, in my lifetime, is the first Pres. candidate that represents this opportunity.

[jkbRN]

9. No it would be to ppl like you,

Who always find criticism in ppl that are voting for Bernie. This is a valid and honest opinion from the OP, you should take the advice. Maybe, just maybe, you will be able to cease from rude comments all the time.

[magical thyme]

2. it's We the People DEMANDING change! nt

[upaloopa]

6. No, it's you SOME of the people.

A lot of people, the majority of Americans that is, are not supporting Bernie.

[Ron Green]

7. Doesn't matter. Bernie is supporting most of the people.

Understand the difference?

[beam me up scottie]

12. GOOD answer!

[Scootaloo]

8. A majority of Americans aren't supporting any given candidate.

[aidbo]

17. Majority of Americans aren't going to be thinking about it until 6 months from now. :(

[Ron Green]

26. That's true, so it's important that a real grass roots network

is in place by then. There's a neighborhood Bernie party tonight near my house, and I'm gonna be there to see what the next steps are for people in my town.

[jwirr]

4. K&R

[FlatBaroque]

10. Bernie is leading a petition against the status quo

he will do what I thought Obama was going to do.

[Ron Green]

11. Good point. "Hope and Change" was powerful back then,

and now it seems like so much branding.

[Vattel]

13. I had been meaning to post something along these lines.

People keep thinking Sanders is promising do all sorts of things that he has said over and over again that a president cannot do. He realizes that we need a "political revolution." He knows that the people have to decide to take power way from the wealthy if anything close to economic justice is to be achieved.

[stevenleser]

14. Tell him, he's the one proposing the legislation. If it's not about that

He should stop doing it.

[uponit7771]

22. +1, what Sanders has continually done is overplay the presidents authority or abilities with the

... current GOP gerrymandered congress.

I'm glad Hillary is talking about what she can do as president without congress, it's in her hands then

[AOR]

16. You're probably onto to something Ron...

there are NO saviors without movements and organization around demands. It can't be about personalities and saviors... it has to be about the demands of the working class, the oppressed, and the struggling. If nothing else Sanders has at least ignited a small spark in the narrative.

"Too long have the workers of the world waited for some Moses to lead them out of bondage. I would not lead you out if I could; for if you could be led out, you could be led back again. I would have you make up your minds there is nothing that you cannot do for yourselves."

--Eugene V. Debs

[randome]

20. Then why haven't the people already demanded those changes?

Sanders has been proposing legislation for a long time yet there has been no groundswell of support for him. Are you saying that only when he is President that the people will rise up and demand changes? Kind of a cynical way of seeing things, isn't it?
[hr][font color="blue"][center]All things in moderation, including moderation.[/center][/font][hr]

[uponit7771]

21. YES IT IS!! The "people" aren't represented due to an overly gerrymandered GOP congress...

... that could give a damn about what 2r234r trillion people want or how many times they march, call or spit

[Autumn]

23. Exactly, the American people will make the changes.

They either follow us or get the fuck out of the way.

[november3rd]

25. That's Right!

It's all up to us. We get what we are willing to demand to whatever extent necessary. They just react.