2016 Postmortem
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Scuba
(53,475 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)There's many more troubling issues for me.
TM99
(8,352 posts)shit happens. Even the most punctual of persons can on occasion run late due to unforeseen circumstances.
But, no, this appears to be a pattern. Why? I don't know. I could speculate but it would just piss off the Clinton supporters.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)You think maybe Hillary could have been on time once or do you have it on good sources that she has never been on time in her life?
99Forever
(14,524 posts)...other little people, not Very Impotent Persons like her highness, The Inevitable One.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)I think it was something about moving with an entourage.
Organizing wardrobes, cleaning ears, parting hair...and moving 5 kids to the door and then getting that one last chance to take a pee...
My mother wasn't a prima donna but we always ended up waiting on her.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)My mother had four, but my father helped get us out the door. It was a team effort.
We had, absolutely without fail, had to be to church on time every Sunday. It was an ordeal for my parents. Once church was over, we had our dinner -- something that my mother put in the oven before we left for church -- and then everybody rested.
It's a matter of discipline and teamwork.
Your mother had a huge load to carry. She did well if she got all of you out of the house at once. She must have been a miracle-worker.
Thanks for your story. It brought back memories.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)If this is H>'s biggest problem Huma can just arrange a front act to eat up a few minutes
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)And any member of the Secret Service who drinks on the job or comes to work drunk should be fired. No question. How can they protect anyone if they have been drinking. Do we have to have urine tests for our Secret Service employees?
I've never heard of such a thing. Did it really happen?
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)As the article notes, many campaigns have a tendency to run late because they're trying to pack too many events into a day. Even outside the campaign context, some people (raises hand) have trouble being on time, even when they have no desire to be discourteous to someone.
As for a class bias, one unhappy event attendee is quoted in the article:
As someone who opposes Clinton, I think this post and the linked article fail to present any good reason to vote against her.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)I think it is a window into exactly the sort of person Clinton is. Tone deaf and entitled.
Metric System
(6,048 posts)Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)When I studied Political Science in my last year
I took a 400 level course on Nazi Germany.
Hitler was always late to his gig was for psychological political reasons not that he couldn't keep time.
Rock concerts do this now...as well as other mass venues............ some get pissed like me
but you got to pump up the crowd before
the main event even if he was late and Hitler knew how to do that with the help of his Propaganda minister and
one that was with him in the early 20s
Goebbels was a genius.
Hillary?.............. she is just late
I don't think this NAZI thing I describe is her reason for her that she is late
Well......... she has been late on changing her political positions.......like a boat changing her sails in a storm at sea to see if her boat would still stay afloat but the choice you made still effected millions adversely
Meanwhile, other politicians like Sanders have chosen a course of action which told the nation .......... this boat is on the wrong course and he have been proven right again and again and told us how we should
avoid these shoals and reefs of the foolishness of our mutual misadventure.
I don't trust her to steer this ship
of state.
frazzled
(18,402 posts)That worked out well, didn't it.
Are we using the Mussolini scale of "on time" record to judge leadership?
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)... becoming a joke.
Its sad. I used to come here looking for smart analysis.
Now ... not so much. Its become a place in which the disgruntled scream so loud that any actual discussion of what matters is lost.
mcar
(42,278 posts)Everything she does is suspect. Lather, rinse, repeat.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)... I'd post ...
Obama bad, Obama bad, Obama bad, Obama bad, Obama bad, Obama bad!
As a subject title.
Same folks that hated him (and have been wrong over and over), now hate Hillary.
Many of the same people who did the constant "Obama bad" refrain now say the same about HRC. They also, ironically, regularly castigated BOG members for their worship.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)And sad to say as I have gotten older, I have acquired a habit of arriving late for things.
Something I very much regret about myself.
I'm working on it.
Being an on-time-person is very important. It shows courtesy and respect for others.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)Response to morningfog (Reply #15)
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Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)or other unforeseen realities hits this planet
Will she be too late to the leadership that is needed or have to ask someone on how to act or say until the latest poll comes in?
I don't want her to steer this ship of state.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Voters are noticing that Hillary is late to events?????
This is supposed to be a serious site for Democrats to discuss actual issues.
Oh wait ... it used to be that ... now its a place in which nonsense replaces policy and political strategy, as a discussion topic.
Please proceed.
Divernan
(15,480 posts)You try to spin the article as being about people "noticing" Hillary is late. That's not it at all, and many examples are provided in the article of people being inconvenienced, offended and upset by her lateness.
PARTICULARLY THE FACT THAT SHE DIDN'T HAVE THE CLASS, THE COURTESY OR THE MANNERS TO APOLOGIZE FOR IT.
Davie, Florida (CNN)At 3:30 p.m. Friday, one hour after Hillary Clinton was scheduled to take the stage at the gym at Broward College here, Vikesh Patel and three of his classmates left without catching a glimpse of the Democratic front-runner in this key Florida county. She was running late from a fundraiser.
"We've been here since one o'clock," said Patel, who doesn't know much about Clinton but whose parents have followed her and her husband for decades. He and his classmates were also going to work the rally into a paper for a speech class they're taking."I guess we'll have to go see someone else give a speech," Patel said.
and
In the back of the gym, another student, Nichole Zapata, was rethinking her decision to bring her grandmother to see Clinton speak. "This is not a good impression," said Zapata, an undecided voter who plans to vote in 2016. "Hopefully she can win me over once she gets here, if she gets here. Not doing too good, though."
Walking out of the event, Zapata, the student who had hoped Clinton would win her over, was less than enthusiastic. "She could have been better," she said. "She made us wait over an hour for her. I understand she is on a tight schedule, but she could have at least apologized for being late." "It could have just been better," Zapata said, rushing out to get to her job at Starbucks.
Divernan
(15,480 posts)Pamela Sharpe, an undecided Democrat from West Palm Beach, came to Clinton's event to try to make up her mind on the candidate.
"I'm thinking about getting ready to leave," she said 50 minutes after Clinton was supposed to go on. "I've been standing here a long, long time. There are not enough seats and I have other things to do."
Sharpe said she was sure Clinton has been late for "fancier people than me" (Fact check: true. Clinton has also run late to fundraisers) and understands "that things do happen" but found her lateness annoying.
Sharpe ended up leaving the event five minutes into Clinton's speech. She snapped a photo with a uniformed Secret Service agent on the way out -- the highlight of her day, she said.
silenttigersong
(957 posts)does have something to do with issues,authenticity being cited as #1.People have diff standards of analyzing a candidate.Just because something does not seem important to one voter it could be part of the criteria of another voter.So to attack someone and from what I read being a newcomer proves how some of the posters have judged the op-case in point.Not only that Hillary Clinton has had a marketing campaign so this is well some fall out.But how gracious of you who ec hew this ops poster if new.For instance I never bothered myself with the Benghazi Benghazi as I thought years ago it was partisan.However when I listened and observed Hillary Clinton's speech concerning emails ect her body language and eye movement made me say weird she is lying,So these patterns deemed insignificant by some are relevant to some as well. if you are new.
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts).............. he was a sailor and the captain of his ship
that brought all men home.
And in the missiles of October he did the same for this planet with great courage and conviction and without delay
.
Hillary
should not run this ship of state.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)deadlinetony
(48 posts)Thank you for your commitment on electing Bernie Sanders.