Hillary's endorsements mean exactly zero to me.

[Flying Squirrel]

They are nothing more than a further show of how corrupt every institution in this country is becoming.

She could nab every major endorsement that is out there to be given, and it would only harden my resolve to vote for Bernie.

There are people on this board who will say that this proves I (and every other Bernie supporter) am blind, manic, or outright insane; so be it. I'll be voting for Bernie and they can all stuff their endorsements.

[leftofcool]

1. Okay

[quickesst]

17. Beat me to it

[Beacool]

40. My feeling is, so what?

The constant Hillary attacks on DU have become farcical. I only comment on occasion to keep my account current, otherwise if one is a Hillary supporter it's a waste of time to peruse this site. 24/7 anti-Hillary crap. Who needs it?

[Autumn]

2. Well then I am proud to be blind, manic, or outright insane.

Bernie has the only endorsement that matters to me. Mine.

[underpants]

3. Understood but those endorsements come with experienced cores of campaign workers

Donations are another element but when the IAFF endorses someone (for example) you get their members and often their facilties in your campaign infrastructure. It's still all about the ground game.

[Demeter]

6. For free? I don't think so

When you get people doing campaign work for love, you are feeling the Bern!

And how is the NEA going to coerce its very unhappy membership to shill for Hill? Ain't happening. (NEA endorsed Clinton against the wishes of the members).

[underpants]

10. Yes it is

I've been involved in a few campaigns. Getting volunteers in the door is the first and most important step. Once you are in you become part of the community and ultimately you get into "the mode" or "the zone". Nutrion becomes a happenstance.

2004 - Kerry - my wife and I started walking in the local office on a Tuesday to running a GOTV phone center at an IAFF office.
2005- Tim Kaine for Gov - we'd just had our baby but I was asked to be in a commercial "Middle aged white guy" was my role. I nodded. Whatever it takes.

2008 - first Obama- we lended sleeping bags, worked the phones, and hosted GOTV launch parties the last two weekends

2012 - Kaine for Senate- I knocked on 1,200 doors while my wife coordinated volunteers from the Kaine office and from home.

Throughout this we ran into people from several organizations who had endorsed the candidate. You don't get all of them but there are mainstays who will always be there. Ther ARE still ward bosses - they bring money and core workers with them. Endorsements are important.

[sabrina 1]

26. Bernie seems to be doing fine, with an army of vollunteers and he has the Nurses Union

the Vt Teachers Union and of course most of the MEMBERSHIP of the major unions, which is really what counts.

Yes, you have detailed the problem exactly. It's all about MONEY.

And that is WHY he is running, and why it is the MEMBERSHIPS who are important.

I'm thrilled to see all the old 'conventional wisdom' being totally destroyed by Bernie's People Oriented campaign.

He just keeps climbing, gathering more and more support, while the old pundits keep moving their goal posts as he smashes yet another 'conventional wisdom' prediction.

It's a new world out their, but frankly I'm fine with leaving the old pundits to their old memes, while we the people continue to mover forward into the future.

[last1standing]

4. 100% agree!

But to be fair, Bernie's endorsements mean exactly zero to me as well. I support him because he's the best candidate in the field, not because a rock star or a union president tells me so.

Endorsements are good talking points but they rarely amount to actual votes.

[Flying Squirrel]

57. True.

I love how people try to play that game and say I'd be singing a different tune if the NEA had endorsed Bernie, when I've said absolutely nothing any time some group did endorse Bernie. It just gets old hearing about these endorsements and superdelegates as though they mean so much more than they really do in terms of who people should and will support when it finally comes down to it.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

60. Well said. The best endorsement Bernie can get?...MINE! Go Bernie!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

[Cali_Democrat]

5. And if Bernie Sanders was endorsed by the largest union in the country, surely you'd say the same.

[peacebird]

8. Bernie has over a million donations, close to 450,000 volunteers, huge enthusiastic crowds Hillary

can only dream of.

Bernie has the people behind him, Hillary not so much. But hey, you folks have tried to tell us Bernie was a fringe, flash in the pan candidate who would plataue and fade how many times now? Yet he keeps drawing more and more people to his rallies, and collected almost as much money as Hillary in the last quarter.

I think you will be in for quite a surprise Super Tuesday.

[sabrina 1]

28. The largest union hasn't endoresed anyone yet. But Bernie did get the endorsement

of the National Nurses Union, one of my favorite groups of people. THEY are who do the most work, not doctors, NURSES, to care for the sick and dying, under sometimes impossible odds.

I am so glad that America's Nurses are with Bernie all the way.

[Cali_Democrat]

33. The NEA is the largest union in the country and they endorsed Hillary. nt

[Flying Squirrel]

51. Unfortunately

Many of us think with our own brains, look with our own eyes and listen with our own ears; we see that a large segment of these unions disagree with these rushed endorsements, and see them for what they are: The union heads ignoring their members, just as Hillary would ignore the wishes of the electorate over the wishes of her big donors. You can look all you want, you won't find any evidence of me crowing over any of Bernie's endorsements (though of course I'm happy whenever it happens, neither do those endorsements cause me to support him more strongly; I'm still using my own brain.)

[Vinca]

7. I think the loudest endorsement will be election day results.

[underpants]

11. 401 days from today

[Thinkingabout]

9. There is a difference if the endorsements are Democrat members of congress.

These members will be super delegates at the DNC convention along with Democrat governors. This makes the endorsements important to a candidate.

[deadlinetony]

13. Are you sure you're in the right place?

"Democrat members of congress"

[Thinkingabout]

23. The republican members will not be super delegates at the DNC convention.

[dsc]

27. The adjective form of Democrat is Democratic

[jberryhill]

37. Shhh....

Now you dunnit. He's going to tell all his buddies over at DemocratUnderground.com.

[HooptieWagon]

19. Buying super delegates is as relevant as buying Facebook likes.

If Hillary is planning on using super delegates to overturn elected delegates, then that will prove she has contempt for democracy, will fracture the party, and ensure she loses the GE.

[restorefreedom]

21. in that case, i don.t even think

there would be a dem party to present in the ge since it will have imploded. i don't doubt hillarys team will try and steal it with supers, but, as in 08, it will not succeed.

[Thinkingabout]

25. There has been superdelegates at the convention for years, not new.

These delegates will be a part as much as the dedicated delegates elected by votes in the primary.

Read more

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdeligate

[Thinkingabout]

30. Who is buying anything?

[HooptieWagon]

41. Her super Pacs are donating to endorser's campaigns.

That's buying their endorsements. $2 1/2 billion buys a lot of endorsements, but it's almost as meaningless as her buying Facebook likes. The voters will have a say, despite her attempting to buy the democratic process.

[Thinkingabout]

45. Do you have some proof of this or something you think is happening?

Hillary has worked with those who have endorsed her. BTW, has Bernie bought your endorsement?

[HooptieWagon]

47. I donated to Bernie.

And will continue to do so every time a Clinton surrogate slings mud or rigs the process. I expect to make several more donations.

Here's one report:
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/102450

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

62. Hillary's attempt to circumvent the democratic process will only further endear Bernie in the minds of the voters.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

[uponit7771]

52. Hillary eats bunny rabbit so anything good for her is evil and bought

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

61. I wouldn't put anything past Hillary after seeing her handling of the 2008 election. Go Bernie!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

[sabrina 1]

29. Don't worry, we Bernie supporters know all about that. And trust me, just as his campaign

has taken the establishment off guard, so will his supporters ability to deal with the super delegate issue.

And it's 'democratic governors' btw.

[deadlinetony]

31. Oh don't teach him that.

I'd rather see an outed operative pretending to be a Hillary Clinton supporter...

[JonathanRackham]

12. My union.

My teachers union just endorsed Hillary. Nice to see lots of blue Bernie buttons at the union meeting. The clash of ideas, must be democracy.

[TimeToEvolve]

15. democrats exercizing democracy?!?!?

Who wouda thunk????

edit-spelling

[TimeToEvolve]

14. Self- Appointed Guardians Of The Status Quo... the true identity of the pro-hillary crowd

the news hype and large, established institutions support a candidate who will not disturb whatever game they are up to.

hillary's words ring hollow with the millenials because they are starting to catch on to the dishonesty, the sneaky-ness, and plain lack of authenticity which emanate from these Democrat In Name Onlys and their concealed Pro-Corporate, Pro-Bank, tag-along-with-the-repuke agendas. and hillary's record causes her to fail the litmus test in my opinion.

Bernie is not a perfect person, but his willingness to go against the trend, his thoughtfulness, and desire to shine a light on the current very corrupt situation scores high marks in by book..

sincerely- T2E

[gwheezie]

16. Endorsements are important to the campaign and

And delegates but not necessarily for swaying voters individually.
I've volunteered for a few campaigns, members of organizations who endorse a candidate also has an infrastructure in place. But I don't think individual voters make decisions on who has the longest list of endorsements.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

18. Nor, should they. You own your vote.

[Persondem]

20. Right. Sounds like sour grapes early. So if your side wins the game is fair. Anything that happens

that helps the other side win is rigged or corrupt.

Whatever. What a bunch of whiners.

[Flying Squirrel]

55. Sour grapes?

Call it what you want, I'm simply pointing out that her endorsements mean nothing to me, and yes, I see some rigging and corruption going on. To be fair, as someone else also pointed out in this thread, Bernie's endorsements are also meaningless to me -- I use my own brain to determine who gets my support.

[DCBob]

22. Must give you pause as to why.

[Flying Squirrel]

54. No, I know why.

The leaders ignore their members, push the endorsements through early at Hillary's urging and hope for special favors if she wins (or fear reprisals if she were to win and they hadn't bowed to her endorsement request). It's not rocket science. But I really don't think it will work any better this time around.

[reformist2]

24. It's just the "inevitability" echo chamber repeating its mantra, all driven by big money.

Hillary is going to win! You better support her nomination!

Union after union endorses Hillary. Why? Because she has the best chance to win!!!

What's frustrating about it is that it's all so MINDLESS.

These people are effectively trying to suffocate the primary process, before one vote has been cast.

[Evergreen Emerald]

32. Your feeling that endorsements mean exactly zero to you

means exactly zero to me.

[Dawson Leery]

58. Same here.

I will take these endorsements as a vote of confidence.

[ram2008]

34. Endorsements mean zero

At a time where congress approval is lower than Herpes, I don't think endorsements means anything more than a pat on the shoulder and people in power trying to get behind the establishment.

To the regular American trying to pay off student loan debt and pay the pills, this means jack.

[hrmjustin]

35. Good to think for yourself and do what you feel is right.

[ronnykmarshall]

36. OK.

[left-of-center2012]

38. I second that emotion

Union bosses and corporate boards don't speak for me.
But Bernie does.

[Beacool]

39. But, if they had endorsed Sanders then that endorsement would have meant something.

Right?

[HooptieWagon]

42. Congress has a 9% approval rating.

If HRH considers that an endorsement, she's wasting her money.

[NealK]

44. Lol, so true.

[uponit7771]

53. Republicans are bringing down congressional approval and not democrats, FUD knows this though

[Flying Squirrel]

49. Why don't you find a link to me crowing over some endorsement of Bernie

(Take your time).

Of course it would make me happy to see more endorsements for him, but again, the fact that a corrupt system is in many cases attempting to maintain the status quo by endorsing Hillary changes nothing for me and many others.

[NealK]

43. Well said, Flying Squirrel.

[NonMetro]

46. President Hillary R. Clinton!

Get used to it!

[Flying Squirrel]

48. That doesn't worry me or bother me.

I remember quite clearly in 2004 saying to some RWer on some message board, "President Kerry, get used to it." Just because you say it doesn't mean it will happen. Only time will tell. And...

Welcome to DU.

[NonMetro]

71. Thanks.

I meant that sort of tongue 'n cheek!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

63. President of the U.S. Bankers Association, maybe, yes.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

[NonMetro]

72. For Some Inexplicable Reason, I Sense You Are A Sanders Supporter!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

73. What gives you that idea?! lol

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

[uponit7771]

50. America isn't fucked up because your candidate isn't supported by congress or any other part

... of establishment or non establsihment

Our country, including its government is flawed and grand

[jfern]

56. Her powerful endorsements are doing it to preserve power

The Clintons have a hit list, while Sanders has no such thing. So the safe thing to do is to endorse her.

[HooptieWagon]

65. She's buying the endorsements also.

[ancianita]

59. SO true. No endorsements means that Bernie's scaring the bejeezus out of the status quo.

[leftofcool]

64. I think it means that no one want to work with him.

[Scuba]

66. Many are negatives to me.

[hrmjustin]

67. Endorsements of Sanders mean nothing to me.

Cheers!

[mhatrw]

68. ENDORSE THIS!

With friends like members of Congress, who needs enemies?

[Puzzledtraveller]

69. and me.

[workinclasszero]

70. Uh...

OK