2016 Postmortem
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We need real change in a big way not more of the same.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)tecelote
(5,122 posts)More war, TPP, Wall Street priorities, Corporate welfare, etc.
I like Barack and Hillary but I think we need a revolution. We need real change not more of the same.
TeacherB87
(249 posts)Whether that's done by Sanders or Clinton, most of Obama's legacy should be preserved and augmented.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)he might retain some of the better obama policies, but it won't be a third term
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twii
(88 posts)Democrats love Obama and Bill. I wouldn't differentiate myself if I were Hillary.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)It's time for change.
Metric System
(6,048 posts)DanTex
(20,709 posts)She's similar to Obama on policy, and that's a good thing. But the country is in a different place now. Obama had to save us from a depression, which he did, along with major accomplishments on health care, financial regulation, environment, Iran, etc. She wants to build on what Obama accomplished and also focus on raising wages. Sounds great to me.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)3.9% unemployment/4.0 G.D.P/lowest poverty rate in a generation/lowest African American and Hispanic unemployment rate in a generation/highest rate of African American home ownership in a generation/lowest abortion rate in a generation-folks were having lots of sex but keeping the kids because the future was bright/ relative peace.
I will sign up for eight years of that.
tecelote
(5,122 posts)Sorry, but that is my biggest concern about Bill, Barack and Hillary.
I know Peace seems to be unpopular but I think it should be our #1 concern. We are just creating more terrorists and killing more innocent people with current policies.
I'd like to see Hillary promise peacetime during her campaign.
She's a powerful person and I totally respect her but my biggest issue is continual warfare.
How can any Democrat condone the current policy? Why is this not a top issue?
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)No large scale military involvement during the Clinton administration.
tecelote
(5,122 posts)But, I wish it was in her list of priorities.
8 years later and we are still at war all the time with no end in sight.
It's a sin.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)And then they pretend that Obama started the ten wars they predicted he'd start.
LettuceSea
(337 posts)The two always go hand in hand, if you go back through history.
As long as we do a little fighting here and there, our "national debt" is nothing more than a partisan talking point. If that ends, then the debt DOES matter.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)So would most Democrats.
But hey, tell your preferred candidate that they should run against Obama.
Sounds like a great strategy.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)we're moving forward. Hillary like others isn't running away them.
Evergreen Emerald
(13,069 posts)He has been in the Congress for decades. He is the status quo. You want change? Well, Trump and Forina are change.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)LettuceSea
(337 posts)I'm not the biggest HRC fan either, but there are far better things to post than this crap.
Stuff like this makes you guys look like Tea Party supporters. Do you think Bernie wants his supporters to look like irrational loons?
artislife
(9,497 posts)I loved Bill, until 2008 and saw he was willing to throw a minority through a storefront window pane.
I love President Obama, I cannot see that changing. Even when he took Hillary on for SoS, I knew her was practically giving her a platform to be the next president. I cannot see that she would have done the same if the roles had been reversed. He is pretty noble that way.
But ---look at the planet and how long we have. If nothing else, it seems like everyone is cleaning the train carriage, rearranging the seats while the damn train is about to jump the tracks.
We need boldness, we need vision and we need someone who doesn't need to be liked. Just their policies.
Hillary is playing a game that was great for 40 years ago---wait, no it wasn't. Because Jimmy Carter knew what had to be done in the 70s and if he had had a 2nd term, who knows what the planet would be looking like now.
Most of the dedicated Democrats won't be living through this Hell to come, but some of us will, some of our kids will.
There is so much more at stake.
MineralMan
(146,286 posts)he'd win in a landslide, right?
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)I'm amused that you said someone who's held elected office for 35 years would be a change from the status quo.