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portlander23

(2,078 posts)
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 05:43 PM Sep 2015

Retraction: Hillary Clinton did NOT sign off on Huma Abedin job change

NYT: Hillary Clinton’s Chief of Staff Authorized Job Change for Huma Abedin

A document certifying a new employment position for one of Hillary Rodham Clinton’s senior aides at the State Department was signed by Mrs. Clinton’s then chief of staff, Cheryl D. Mills, according to a copy of the document provided to The New York Times on Sunday.

Last week, The Times and other news outlets reported that the document was signed by Mrs. Clinton personally, based on a copy that was obtained by a conservative watchdog group. On the document, Mrs. Clinton’s name was printed above the signature in a box intended for the aide’s supervisor, but the signature itself was redacted by the State Department, according to the group, Judicial Watch.

The document was part of a process undertaken in 2012 by which Mrs. Clinton’s then deputy chief of staff, Huma Abedin, began working simultaneously for the State Department, the Clinton family’s foundation, and the consulting firm Teneo. A Clinton aide on Sunday, speaking on condition of anonymity, confirmed that the signature was that of Ms. Mills, and said that it was within Ms. Mills’ duties to sign such documents on behalf of Mrs. Clinton.
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Retraction: Hillary Clinton did NOT sign off on Huma Abedin job change (Original Post) portlander23 Sep 2015 OP
Where does the buck stop? MindfulOne Sep 2015 #1
Man. You are carrying water for the right wingers! Human101948 Sep 2015 #3
Why does truth make you so testy? leftynyc Sep 2015 #17
Judicial Watch has been stalking the Clintons for decades. oasis Sep 2015 #21
I knew there was more to this story. murielm99 Sep 2015 #2
didn't they just have another retraction about her? 6chars Sep 2015 #4
Will the Bernistas/Redstate/Fox apologize for jumping on this story? Dawson Leery Sep 2015 #5
such civility yourself karynnj Sep 2015 #23
Do you know what's absurd? Avalux Sep 2015 #25
Oh my! OilemFirchen Sep 2015 #6
The MSM is really showing their asses with the sloppy reporting surrounding this story. It's as if Metric System Sep 2015 #7
NEVER trust rightwing media sources. BlueWaveDem Sep 2015 #8
We owe Judicialwatch a debt for their FOIA work portlander23 Sep 2015 #10
I've never had a chief of staff so how does that work? HereSince1628 Sep 2015 #9
Exactly. RiverLover Sep 2015 #18
Of course it was done with her approval. TM99 Sep 2015 #26
Oh FFS ... eom GeorgeGist Sep 2015 #11
How much difference does that make? Motown_Johnny Sep 2015 #12
incredibly minor detail, Huma Abedin could easily be mistaken for one of Hillary's limbs virtualobserver Sep 2015 #14
wait. Who committed a crime here? twii Sep 2015 #15
I am not saying anything like that. Motown_Johnny Sep 2015 #16
OMG!!! ronnykmarshall Sep 2015 #13
I think this is a totally stupid issue, but Vinca Sep 2015 #19
I am with you on this one.. artislife Sep 2015 #27
as I am sure you are aware, it is a way to keep the story going-day by day. riversedge Sep 2015 #29
How many mea culpa have the NYT now issues about their coverage of Clinton? Godhumor Sep 2015 #20
The more they screw up, the more certain people trust them twii Sep 2015 #22
Oh dear. A rogue chief of staff? No of course not, she signed it on Autumn Sep 2015 #24
If they the word Retraction in their headline like you do--thier riversedge Sep 2015 #28
Kick oasis Sep 2015 #30
Right, Hillary didn't sign it. Hillary's chief of staff signed it on Hillary's behalf. Autumn Sep 2015 #31
 

MindfulOne

(227 posts)
1. Where does the buck stop?
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 05:50 PM
Sep 2015

.

It just occurred to me that Hillary never takes credit for fuck ups, but always takes credit for things she didn't really do, like bringing peace to Northern Ireland.

That's bullshit. If you own anything you have to own everything.

Unredeemable, in my estimation. This candidate is empty of value and if she wins the primary she will lose the general.

 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
3. Man. You are carrying water for the right wingers!
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 06:00 PM
Sep 2015

There is no "fuck up" other than in the imagination of the rabid right wing. You seem disappointed and angry that it wasn't Hillary's signature. Why would that be the case?

By the way, I support Bernie, but I find the attacks on Hillary on DU most curious. And if she is nominated I will vote for her. And I really don't think she is going to lose--unless Democrats like you stab the rest of us in the back.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
17. Why does truth make you so testy?
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 07:32 AM
Sep 2015

They're retracting a false story and you're still whining about Hillary. Perhaps you can tell us why correcting a false record has you so angry.

oasis

(49,323 posts)
21. Judicial Watch has been stalking the Clintons for decades.
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 08:53 AM
Sep 2015

"If you own anything you have to own everything"

Congratulations on your ownership of Judicial Watch.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
5. Will the Bernistas/Redstate/Fox apologize for jumping on this story?
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 06:06 PM
Sep 2015

The anti-Clinton bias in the US media is absurd.

karynnj

(59,498 posts)
23. such civility yourself
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 09:16 AM
Sep 2015

The original story was wrong in that the redacted signature above the Secretary's name was really Cheryl Mills not HRC herself. They have published this article correcting that.

The key thing that does is remove a clear lie against HRC. However. This is her Chief of Staff signing to allow HRC' s right hand person to work for the SD and private employers - who just happen to be the Clinton Foundation and Teneo. This seriously does not distance things that far.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
25. Do you know what's absurd?
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 11:02 AM
Sep 2015

Clintonistas blaming EVERYTHING on anti-Clinton bias from anyone who questions or criticizes Hillary. The decades old victimization excuse has long outlived its effectiveness.

Metric System

(6,048 posts)
7. The MSM is really showing their asses with the sloppy reporting surrounding this story. It's as if
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 06:23 PM
Sep 2015

they're in such a rush to report anything that makes Hillary look bad that they don't even take the time to make sure they have the facts.

 

BlueWaveDem

(403 posts)
8. NEVER trust rightwing media sources.
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 06:26 PM
Sep 2015

Judicial watch. And all the FOIA requests have been by Judicial Watch and Citizens United. 2 groups I'm sure no one here wants to carry water for.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
9. I've never had a chief of staff so how does that work?
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 06:29 PM
Sep 2015

I would expect sometimes the Exec has to sign, maybe sometimes the Exec has to discuss it, and maybe sometimes the Exec just passes stuff over to be done completely by the CoS, but I don't know.

Anyone?

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
18. Exactly.
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 07:53 AM
Sep 2015

Does anyone honestly believe it was done without the Hillary's approval? She has a chief of staff to sign off on things for her. The chief of staff follows her orders.

wow.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
26. Of course it was done with her approval.
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 11:32 AM
Sep 2015

If not, then her lack of oversight on such a matter speaks negatively to her being a sound leader. Where does delegation end and allowing others to take the fall for you begin? It has been a very thin line for Hillary Clinton for decades.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
12. How much difference does that make?
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 07:26 PM
Sep 2015

If Hillary signed it or if her chief of staff signed it, isn't that just a minor detail?

It is reasonable to assume that Hillary still approved it. If not, then she can't trust the people she puts in key positions.




 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
14. incredibly minor detail, Huma Abedin could easily be mistaken for one of Hillary's limbs
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 06:17 AM
Sep 2015

these demands for apologies are ludicrous



 

twii

(88 posts)
15. wait. Who committed a crime here?
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 06:56 AM
Sep 2015

Explain the charges that should be brought on Hillary's chief of staff. You are not suggesting that the DOJ was wrong in not pressing charges on anyone, are you?

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
16. I am not saying anything like that.
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 06:59 AM
Sep 2015

Only that Hillary not signing it does not mean that she did not approve it.

Nothing more.



Vinca

(50,236 posts)
19. I think this is a totally stupid issue, but
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 08:15 AM
Sep 2015

authorizing an underling to sign your name is the same as you signing it. I'm not a Hillary fan, but you'd think Huma was Mrs. Bin Laden for heaven's sake. There are better thinks to squabble about.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
27. I am with you on this one..
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 11:37 AM
Sep 2015

She is like Oprah's Gail. She just might really get H and have the skills to do the work. A lot of work. And maybe it would be good to employ another person to get another household out of the red, but hey.

In the end, it doesn't amount to much.

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
20. How many mea culpa have the NYT now issues about their coverage of Clinton?
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 08:45 AM
Sep 2015

What the hell is going on over there?

 

twii

(88 posts)
22. The more they screw up, the more certain people trust them
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 09:02 AM
Sep 2015

People who benefit from their lying about Clinton, that is. Supporters of her political rivsls on either party.

Autumn

(44,979 posts)
31. Right, Hillary didn't sign it. Hillary's chief of staff signed it on Hillary's behalf.
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 11:49 PM
Sep 2015

It was signed on Hillary's behalf. Think about that for a minute.

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