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cali

(114,904 posts)
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 06:37 PM Sep 2015

Today, Bernie may well have made a significant step in attracting PoC to his campaign

That crowd of cheering striking government workers he addressed is almost entirely composed of black workers. And his support and advocacy for them, is nothing new. It isn't out of political calculation or expediency. It's born of conviction.

<snip>

The white-haired Sanders is a well-known figure among some of the Capitol Hill workers in the audience on Tuesday, particularly those who work in the Dirksen Cafeteria, where he has his office. Sanders regularly makes the rounds with the cafeteria workers, talking inequality and unions and fair pay, and sometimes pausing for selfies in Dirksen’s halls. Most of them are more accustomed to serving senators coffee and cleaning up their hallways than protesting with them.

“He’s an awesome dude,” said Anthony Thomas, a cafeteria worker who recalled chatting with Sanders one-on-one outside during a work break. “This is the third time he’s taken his time out of his busy schedule to come support our strike.”

<snip>

http://time.com/4044632/bernie-sanders-pope-francis-strike/

more:

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/09/22/bernie-sanders-joins-rally-of-striking-federal-workers-to-call-for-wage-increase/

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Today, Bernie may well have made a significant step in attracting PoC to his campaign (Original Post) cali Sep 2015 OP
How many candidates would actually JOIN A PICKET LINE with his constituents? Maedhros Sep 2015 #1
it really is. cali Sep 2015 #8
Bernie is in his element on a picket line, leading a march or a protest. Snotcicles Sep 2015 #58
Yes, he is far more comfortable among real people than he is with 'DC insiders' sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #71
Bernie ain't the type to hide from a fight he believes in. The thing about being real 100% Snotcicles Sep 2015 #73
Exactly. tecelote Sep 2015 #59
I know a candidate from 2008 who promised he would do that. bvar22 Sep 2015 #78
Many candidates come from the "tell the liberal base whatever they want to hear, then ignore them" Maedhros Sep 2015 #79
He's an amazing man and an incredible, giving human being. in_cog_ni_to Sep 2015 #2
Then why didn't he run for president in 1980??? cui bono Sep 2015 #13
They must have a BERNIE meme in_cog_ni_to Sep 2015 #17
Yeah, seriously. That just makes no sense at all. cui bono Sep 2015 #80
Why didn't he run for president in 1992??? AlbertCat Sep 2015 #26
Exactly. He's running because he NEEDS to run. cui bono Sep 2015 #81
One DUer thinks that it's because he has a nest egg waiting for him in Israel. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #39
So then why isn't he running for President of ISRAEL???? BuelahWitch Sep 2015 #50
Right? That's some grade A anti-Semitism right there. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #52
I saw that. Spin Doctor. Hilarious. Hiraeth Sep 2015 #65
That BASTARD! snort Sep 2015 #75
One Senator I can think of who might have matched Bernie's dedication to workers ... RufusTFirefly Sep 2015 #18
Be still my heart! in_cog_ni_to Sep 2015 #22
It's probably why AFSCME and SEIU Wankle Ronnie Sep 2015 #3
Good for Bernie GitRDun Sep 2015 #4
It's both Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #5
except this is no different from what he's been doing for years, cali Sep 2015 #11
In some cases Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #19
bull. he's been doing this for decades. I know. he's represented me for decades. cali Sep 2015 #32
He's usually there jfern Sep 2015 #41
so did Obama show up with his comfortable shoes...or any shoes for that matter? nt msongs Sep 2015 #6
He's visiting with the Pope......... eom a kennedy Sep 2015 #9
Obama was busy preparing to meet the Pope today. I.e., he was busy being PRESIDENT, like he does... George II Sep 2015 #27
Here's where Obama was today, being President, thank you. George II Sep 2015 #42
it's really not about today. It's about a promise he made. cali Sep 2015 #44
What are you talking about? George II Sep 2015 #56
It was a promise during the 2008 campaign Jim Lane Sep 2015 #61
If you must disparage Democrats, please do so in the Bernie Group. leftofcool Sep 2015 #62
Jury Results Glassunion Sep 2015 #69
Kudos to Juror #5...folks should take the hint, the Hillary Hateathon is getting boringly obvious: Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #72
K&R CharlotteVale Sep 2015 #7
and he got great coverage from the msm for a change! magical thyme Sep 2015 #10
Hey, that reminds me...! Beartracks Sep 2015 #12
The framing of your headline makes it look like he is doing it for political reasons. Skwmom Sep 2015 #14
I disagree. cali Sep 2015 #15
It's also an article written in a dismissive and ridiculing tone. Skwmom Sep 2015 #23
You think cali is an O'Malley supporter??? beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #24
then I think you might have a problem with it. AlbertCat Sep 2015 #28
Uh? BeanMusical Sep 2015 #31
please. I'm one of the more prominent Sanders supporters on DU cali Sep 2015 #40
K & R. Good for Bernie, he's the Real Deal. appalachiablue Sep 2015 #16
Kick Fawke Em Sep 2015 #20
Nice to see Sanders is also evolving. Evolving is a good thing, even Clinton would agree. Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #21
What, by joining a picket line? HerbChestnut Sep 2015 #25
Really? He has been on picket lines for the last 27 years? leftofcool Sep 2015 #63
What did he evolve on, in this context? n/t arcane1 Sep 2015 #29
uh, do try actually reading, Fred. he's been doing this for years cali Sep 2015 #30
"You really shouldn't talk about things you know jack about." BeanMusical Sep 2015 #35
LOL! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #33
Fred, Fred, Fred... WillyT Sep 2015 #34
Lol! BeanMusical Sep 2015 #38
Thanks. SusanCalvin Sep 2015 #37
you are just un fucking believable /nt demwing Sep 2015 #43
From a major LW site, because that is what I read, here is another thing that needs evolving: Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #45
ooh,.using an arm of the Hillary campaign to attack Bernie cali Sep 2015 #46
He evolved from being pro-gun control to being pro-gun control? beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #47
Glad you asked! From the same LW site: Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #48
Yeah, I read the propaganda from the Hillary website TP yesterday but you didn't answer my question. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #51
Sorry, you only get one question per thread. Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #53
Then answer one of us. HerbChestnut and arcane1 asked first so start with them. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #54
Time to call it a day on the refreshments, I would say. Good night! Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #55
I just read through this whole thread, and I'll take this post as a capitulation. mak3cats Sep 2015 #57
Exits, stage right. Divernan Sep 2015 #60
Or... kenfrequed Sep 2015 #67
Getting Post Offices re-named? leftofcool Sep 2015 #64
Nice job! Maybe you can help Hillary with those smears about Bernie beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #66
jaysus. you know better. what a stinking steaming pile- and you manage it in one short cali Sep 2015 #70
when it comes to "evolving" it seems the public has to evolve to catch up to Bernie whereas azurnoir Sep 2015 #74
YES! SusanCalvin Sep 2015 #36
This letter to the Pope caught my eye as well. Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #49
Hasn't Hillary walked union picket lines? left-of-center2012 Sep 2015 #68
What a ludicrous off putting claim - a significant step.. Skwmom Sep 2015 #76
K&R eom Duval Sep 2015 #77
 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
1. How many candidates would actually JOIN A PICKET LINE with his constituents?
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 06:40 PM
Sep 2015

Integrity, my friends, is worth more that all the money in Hillary's war chest.

 

Snotcicles

(9,089 posts)
58. Bernie is in his element on a picket line, leading a march or a protest.
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 11:48 PM
Sep 2015

He always wears comfortable shoes, just in case.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
71. Yes, he is far more comfortable among real people than he is with 'DC insiders'
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 10:21 AM
Sep 2015

You can't fake that. Or buy it!

 

Snotcicles

(9,089 posts)
73. Bernie ain't the type to hide from a fight he believes in. The thing about being real 100%
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 10:30 AM
Sep 2015

of the time is, those around you can be real also, and not worry about consequences.

tecelote

(5,122 posts)
59. Exactly.
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 07:00 AM
Sep 2015

Honesty and integrity with a track record to prove his convictions.

He's what all our politicians should be but so very few are.

He's not owned and not a hawk. He cares about Americans over America.

Like you said "...worth more that all the money in Hillary's war chest."

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
79. Many candidates come from the "tell the liberal base whatever they want to hear, then ignore them"
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 06:28 PM
Sep 2015

wing of the Party.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
2. He's an amazing man and an incredible, giving human being.
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 06:42 PM
Sep 2015

That's all there is to it. How many other Senators have done what he has done for those workers? My guess is NONE. You're so lucky to have him representing you in Congress. I wish he was my Senator. Durbin's pretty good, but Bernie is GREAT.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
13. Then why didn't he run for president in 1980???
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 08:02 PM
Sep 2015

Why didn't he run for president in 1992???

Or 1996??? Or 2000??? 2004??? 2008???? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1???

Why? WHY? WHY????????????????????????




That's what someone thinks is important now. Seriously. They keep badgering me about it in another OP as if it is important and means something.


in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
17. They must have a BERNIE meme
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 08:27 PM
Sep 2015

DU Think Tank who does nothing but sit around all day thinking of Anti-Bernie memes.

Who the hell thinks up this crap?

What a stuuuupid argument to make. They're running out of ways to attack him.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
80. Yeah, seriously. That just makes no sense at all.
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 08:17 PM
Sep 2015

I keep asking him/her to explain it but they keep going off on other nonsensical tangents.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
26. Why didn't he run for president in 1992???
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 09:10 PM
Sep 2015

Because there wasn't the danger of Hillary as president looming?

Seriously..... he is an Independent, y'know. He's clearly seen now that the Dems are not doing much to solve our nation's problems, combined with the fact that the GOP is out and out dangerous to the country.


No the parties are not the same.... but they are both clearly not for the "people". Citizens United has to have been a major push to his decision to run.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
81. Exactly. He's running because he NEEDS to run.
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 08:19 PM
Sep 2015

I don't think he particularly wants to run, but he can see no one else is jumping in to save the country and its people, so he's doing it out of duty and responsibility.

That makes him all the better a candidate. Altruistic, not looking for another notch on his career belt or to make the history books.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
39. One DUer thinks that it's because he has a nest egg waiting for him in Israel.
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 09:24 PM
Sep 2015

They think it's the only reason he decided to step out from his quiet role for 25 yrs & take on someone like Hillary Clinton.



beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
52. Right? That's some grade A anti-Semitism right there.
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 10:04 PM
Sep 2015

Last edited Tue Sep 22, 2015, 10:37 PM - Edit history (1)

I feel sorry for people like that.

They see Jews, Jews everywhere...



snort

(2,334 posts)
75. That BASTARD!
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 12:08 PM
Sep 2015

I knew there was something about that guy I didn't like. Now the coffee in my "FEEL THE BERN" mug doesn't taste quite as good and my "BERNIE!" t-shirt is getting kinda tight in the collar.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
18. One Senator I can think of who might have matched Bernie's dedication to workers ...
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 08:39 PM
Sep 2015

... died in a plane crash in Eveleth, Minnesota.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
22. Be still my heart!
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 08:48 PM
Sep 2015

You're right. Paul was soooo much like Bernie. I still miss him and tear up just thinking our loss of that great, great man. He'll always be one of my heroes, as will President Bernie Sanders. They're both RARE politicians.

 

Wankle Ronnie

(66 posts)
3. It's probably why AFSCME and SEIU
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 06:45 PM
Sep 2015

are holding off their endorsements. Bernie's on fire, and will obtain both after the first debates. Bernie will completely demolish Clinton leaving her stuttering and wondering what just happened.


GitRDun

(1,846 posts)
4. Good for Bernie
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 06:52 PM
Sep 2015

If he can just be himself reaching out to all voter blocks he really can win.

Good step for him.

Thanks for posting.

Chitown Kev

(2,197 posts)
5. It's both
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 07:28 PM
Sep 2015
It isn't out of political calculation or expediency. It's born of conviction.

Both can be true and one doesn't invalidate the other.

Chitown Kev

(2,197 posts)
19. In some cases
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 08:41 PM
Sep 2015

Sanders doesn't always show solidarity with progressives causes (or POC for the matter) in this way.

jfern

(5,204 posts)
41. He's usually there
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 09:31 PM
Sep 2015

I mean sure, he doesn't show solidarity with Palestinians, but 98% of Congress is quite pro-Israel.

George II

(67,782 posts)
27. Obama was busy preparing to meet the Pope today. I.e., he was busy being PRESIDENT, like he does...
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 09:13 PM
Sep 2015

......24/7.

George II

(67,782 posts)
42. Here's where Obama was today, being President, thank you.
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 09:38 PM
Sep 2015

And your comment about him showing up "with any shoes for that matter" was rude and insulting.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
61. It was a promise during the 2008 campaign
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 09:10 AM
Sep 2015

Noted in this story in Politico:

Largely marginalized during eight years of the Bush era, labor’s organizing and fundraising efforts were out in full force for the 2008 Obama campaign. And the pro-union candidate returned the love, vowing to push labor’s agenda and famously declaring he’d don “comfortable shoes” and march on a picket line if they needed him.

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
69. Jury Results
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 10:15 AM
Sep 2015

On Wed Sep 23, 2015, 09:56 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

If you must disparage Democrats, please do so in the Bernie Group.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=615419

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Seriously? Pointing out a broken promise is "disparaging"? And pushing the meme that Bernie supporters are "bad Democrats" for believing in Democratic values and trying to paint the Bernie Group as some sort of hotbed of anti-Democratic activity. ..

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Wed Sep 23, 2015, 10:09 AM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: This does not rise to the level of an alert able post.not even close.
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Explanation: It's snark, not hide-worthy. Alerter should copy and past the contents of the alert in a reply to the poster and have a discussion.
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Explanation: Sick of the hate. This is mild compared to what such people deserve. Clean up the Fox News garbage coming from so-called Democrats before complaining about criticism of the same.
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Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
72. Kudos to Juror #5...folks should take the hint, the Hillary Hateathon is getting boringly obvious:
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 10:28 AM
Sep 2015

Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Sick of the hate. This is mild compared to what such people deserve. Clean up the Fox News garbage coming from so-called Democrats before complaining about criticism of the same.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
14. The framing of your headline makes it look like he is doing it for political reasons.
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 08:03 PM
Sep 2015

But I'm sure you see that.



Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
23. It's also an article written in a dismissive and ridiculing tone.
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 08:53 PM
Sep 2015

But I'm sure you'll disagree with that too.

But if it was a dismissive article on O'Malley, then I think you might have a problem with it.

Am I surprised by the number of recommends? No.


 

cali

(114,904 posts)
40. please. I'm one of the more prominent Sanders supporters on DU
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 09:25 PM
Sep 2015

And as a Vermonter, I'm even more invested in him and proud of him.

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
63. Really? He has been on picket lines for the last 27 years?
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 09:16 AM
Sep 2015

I thought he was in Congress trying to get legislation passed. I read that on DU.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
30. uh, do try actually reading, Fred. he's been doing this for years
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 09:16 PM
Sep 2015

Unlike hilly, he doesn't need to evolve to right position. You really shouldn't talk about things you know jack about.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
45. From a major LW site, because that is what I read, here is another thing that needs evolving:
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 09:45 PM
Sep 2015
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2015/09/21/3703618/voters-conflicted-about-bernie-sanders-on-guns/

PORTSMOUTH, NEW HAMPSHIRE — When she was 13 years old, Clai Lasher-Sommers’ step-father shot her through the back with a “huge rifle.” That traumatic experience, which she barely survived in 1970, motivated her to become a lifelong advocate for gun control her in home state of New Hampshire, where she gives speeches and pressures elected officials to pass local and national measures to restrict easy access to firearms.
Now, as she looks at the candidates for president who have descended on her politically-important state, she is torn. She says Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) — who is currently ahead of all other Democrats in the polls in her state — has the best platform for “marginalized people,” but the worst record on gun control.
“I believe in everything he says and a lot of things he’s done in Washington, but I can’t vote for him,” she told ThinkProgress. “I will vote for whoever has enough clout to make the change, and I don’t believe [Sanders] will take this on. I can only look at a candidate who speaks loudly about it, because I can’t watch more people be shot.”
 

cali

(114,904 posts)
46. ooh,.using an arm of the Hillary campaign to attack Bernie
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 09:49 PM
Sep 2015

But it's been fun watching you get your posterior handed to you in this thread for your mendacious nonsense.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
47. He evolved from being pro-gun control to being pro-gun control?
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 09:50 PM
Sep 2015

Wow, you're on a roll today, Fred.

Keep digging.


Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
48. Glad you asked! From the same LW site:
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 09:55 PM
Sep 2015

"Yet Sanders also cast a vote against the Brady Bill, legislation that instituted federal background checks and a five-day waiting period for gun purchases. He said at the time that states should be able to set their own waiting periods. Then, in 2007, he voted for a bill to prohibit foreign or United Nations aid to be used for gun control. In 2009, he voted to allow firearms on checked bags on Amtrak. His most controversial vote was cast in 2005, in favor of an NRA-backed bill to prevent victims of gun violence from being able to sue gun manufacturers for negligence."

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
51. Yeah, I read the propaganda from the Hillary website TP yesterday but you didn't answer my question.
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 10:02 PM
Sep 2015

How did he evolve from being pro gun control to being pro gun control?

And how about clearing up your first post in this thread, just how did Bernie evolve to supporting labor?

Where did he start from?


TIA!




beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
54. Then answer one of us. HerbChestnut and arcane1 asked first so start with them.
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 10:08 PM
Sep 2015

I can wait, I have refreshments.




mak3cats

(1,573 posts)
57. I just read through this whole thread, and I'll take this post as a capitulation.
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 10:58 PM
Sep 2015

Good night to you. I respect your position even if I don't agree with it.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
67. Or...
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 09:54 AM
Sep 2015

You could stop thread-jacking and start your own gun control thread.

This thread was about his support for labor.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
66. Nice job! Maybe you can help Hillary with those smears about Bernie
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 09:51 AM
Sep 2015

I hear campaign staffers were really super helpful when it came to pushing the birther meme about Obama back in 2008.


 

cali

(114,904 posts)
70. jaysus. you know better. what a stinking steaming pile- and you manage it in one short
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 10:19 AM
Sep 2015

sentence. You are a perfect rep for hilly

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
74. when it comes to "evolving" it seems the public has to evolve to catch up to Bernie whereas
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 12:08 PM
Sep 2015

Hillary has to 'evolve to catch up to the public

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
68. Hasn't Hillary walked union picket lines?
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 09:59 AM
Sep 2015

With a lot of union bosses backing her,
I'm assuming she's 'walked the walk'.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
76. What a ludicrous off putting claim - a significant step..
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 12:45 PM
Sep 2015

Any I'm sure you know who would find it offensive.
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