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Agschmid

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Tue Sep 22, 2015, 12:23 PM Sep 2015

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NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
1. I have given support to Democrats, the Green Party, and Independents.
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 12:39 PM
Sep 2015

I am the Entrenched Democratic Establishment voter according to so many.

I have argued against ops saying Sanders doesn't belong on the Democratic ticket and stated that the fact we haven't had a debate yet helps Clinton and hurts O'Malley.

I am the Entrenched Democratic Establishment voter according to so Many.

I support Medicare for all, am adamantly pro-choice, and believe income inequality needs to be addressed more aggressively and immediately.

I am the Entrenched Democratic Establishment voter according to so many.

I support almost all means to remove guns from the streets, want marijuana legalized, and want to revamp the justice system to where it becomes just.

I am the Entrenched Democratic Establishment voter according to so many.

I want to slash the MIC and put every dime cut toward roads and infrastructure, a stronger and more reliable safety net, and education.

I am the Entrenched Democratic Establishment voter according to so many.

Hope I read your op correctly. Sorry if I didn't.

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artislife

(9,497 posts)
5. I agree almost word for word with you
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 01:10 PM
Sep 2015

The only nuanced difference we might have is:


I am for strict gun CONTROL, but not for across board gun removal. Which may not be what you are implying. I would like to go after gun companies and support the arrests of parents who treat the guns in their homes in a lazy fashion. Tougher back ground checks, waiting periods and get rid of the gun shows.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
3. It's the big money, the establishment, the corp media, and dirty politics
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 12:49 PM
Sep 2015

that keeps Sandy and Jane down the street voting for these types of politicians.

It's pretty sad when the Republicans have at least realized that establishment candidates aren't working on their behalf (though will I be surprised if they manipulate Bush to be the nominee - no).

Our country has turned how to manipulate the masses into a fine art.

tech3149

(4,452 posts)
4. I don't find anything inclusive or supportive in your post
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 12:59 PM
Sep 2015

I try and stay out of the pissing contest of the primary but following discussions here I don't see Sanders supporters generally trying to dismiss other candidates without reasonable justification.
Sanders knew and expected that there would be virtually no support from the party "leadership" and that has proved to be true. He also knew that media would not provide equitable coverage of his campaign.
I think the problem that you and the polling organizations as well as the political commentariate don't understand is that the Sanders campaign is the beginning of a paradigm shift in politics.
Since I have no life, there isn't much posted here that I don't have the opportunity to read. I have yet to read a post from a professed Sanders supporter that would not support any Democratic as opposed o the alternative.
Remember we are talking about the primaries now. This is the point in the process where we decide who best represents our vision for the party and the country.
Anyone with the most modest grasp on reality must know that every aspect of the process is biased against Sanders and the polling results are the most obvious indicator. The only reason he is running as a Democrat is that it provides the best possibility of a positive outcome. If the Democratic party is smart they will not denigrate and dismiss Sanders supporters but embrace them and build on the ideas that drew them to political action.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
6. Please, they will use Bernie to try to cloak the moral bankruptcy of the Corporate Democrats. n/t
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 01:25 PM
Sep 2015

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nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
7. I try to stay out of trenches n/t
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 03:17 PM
Sep 2015
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