Fri Jan 27, 2012, 05:52 PM
Drunken Irishman (19,966 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
Grover Norquist hopes congress will impeach Obama...
http://news.yahoo.com/impeach-obama-194325174.html
NORQUIST: Obama can sit there and let all the tax lapse, and then the Republicans will have enough votes in the Senate in 2014 to impeach. The last year, he’s gone into this huddle where he does everything by executive order. He’s made no effort to work with Congress. Oddly enough, the comments to this article are pretty level-headed...which is unusual for Yahoo! readers. And why are Republicans signing pledges to Norquist?
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| Drunken Irishman | Jan 27 | OP | |
| rhett o rick | Jan 27 | #1 | |
| DCKit | Jan 27 | #2 | |
| WonderGrunion | Jan 27 | #3 | |
| LostinRed | Jan 28 | #32 | |
| liberal from boston | Jan 27 | #4 | |
| Frustratedlady | Jan 27 | #17 | |
| Andy823 | Jan 27 | #20 | |
| SaintPete | Jan 28 | #30 | |
| BeyondGeography | Jan 27 | #5 | |
| unblock | Jan 27 | #6 | |
| onehandle | Jan 27 | #7 | |
| yourout | Jan 28 | #41 | |
| thelordofhell | Jan 27 | #8 | |
| southernyankeebelle | Jan 27 | #9 | |
| SleeplessinSoCal | Jan 27 | #10 | |
| Skink | Jan 27 | #11 | |
| cgnick | Jan 27 | #24 | |
| bayareaboy | Jan 27 | #12 | |
| madinmaryland | Jan 27 | #13 | |
| ProfessionalLeftist | Jan 27 | #14 | |
| meow2u3 | Jan 27 | #19 | |
| LarryNM | Jan 27 | #26 | |
| Ebadlun | Jan 27 | #15 | |
| JHB | Jan 28 | #39 | |
| roguevalley | Jan 27 | #16 | |
| fromwyoming | Jan 27 | #18 | |
| JHB | Jan 28 | #40 | |
| Nevernose | Jan 28 | #49 | |
| yellowcanine | Jan 27 | #21 | |
| Gore1FL | Jan 27 | #23 | |
| sulphurdunn | Jan 27 | #22 | |
| Blue Owl | Jan 27 | #25 | |
| jwirr | Jan 27 | #27 | |
| schmice | Jan 28 | #28 | |
| VPStoltz | Jan 28 | #29 | |
| Obamacare | Jan 28 | #31 | |
| Lil Missy | Jan 28 | #33 | |
| Bolo Boffin | Jan 28 | #35 | |
| Lil Missy | Jan 28 | #38 | |
| gtar100 | Jan 28 | #34 | |
| WHEN CRABS ROAR | Jan 28 | #45 | |
| madrchsod | Jan 28 | #36 | |
| Ebadlun | Jan 28 | #37 | |
| CBHagman | Jan 28 | #42 | |
| NRaleighLiberal | Jan 28 | #43 | |
| WingDinger | Jan 28 | #44 | |
| TomClash | Jan 28 | #46 | |
| PDJane | Jan 28 | #47 | |
| SemperEadem | Jan 28 | #48 | |
| Zoeisright | Jan 28 | #50 | |
| on point | Jan 29 | #51 | |
| Proud Liberal Dem | Jan 29 | #52 | |
| lonestarnot | Jan 29 | #53 | |
| Liberalman777 | Jan 29 | #54 | |
| DCBob | Jan 29 | #55 | |
| rtracey | Jan 29 | #56 |
Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 05:56 PM
rhett o rick (20,059 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
1. Norquist should ask Justice Roberts what he thinks about a Unitary Executive now? nm
Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 06:00 PM
DCKit (15,570 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
2. I wish I could think and believe as magically as Grover does.
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The (R) brand is seriously damaged, and he's still imagining they've won. For all eternity, too boot.
In my magical world, there would be no (R)s, Blue Dogs or DLC Democrats. But I don't believe in magical thinking. We have to get rid of them the hard way and be patient while doing so. |
Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 06:00 PM
WonderGrunion (2,669 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
3. Wait, does this mean Norquist agrees the Republics have no chance in 2012?
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If so...Yay!
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Response to WonderGrunion (Reply #3)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 02:42 AM
LostinRed (337 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
32. Yeah it seems he believes Obama will win re-election.
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And Obama will win re-election. Knowing the Republican they probably will try to impeach
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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 06:01 PM
liberal from boston (18 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
4. Norquist wants Obama impeached
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Grover you are so delusional. Any member of Congress & Senate that signs your crazy no tax pledge should be impeached!!!!! Only oath is to the Constitution & not to some non-elected politcal partisan!!!
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Response to liberal from boston (Reply #4)
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 07:38 PM
Frustratedlady (7,477 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
17. Grover is a traitor. eom
Response to Frustratedlady (Reply #17)
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 08:07 PM
Andy823 (4,317 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
20. I agree.
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They should just slap the irons on him and take him to GITMO like they do with other suspected terrorists! Maybe after 30 or 40 years he might be a changed person!
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Response to Frustratedlady (Reply #17)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 02:20 AM
SaintPete (533 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
30. Obama's 2nd Term?
Some little monster woke up on the wrong side of Sesame Street, I'm thinking... |
Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 06:02 PM
BeyondGeography (18,247 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
5. Good to see he's conceding the election
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Curb your enthusiasm, Grover.
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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 06:03 PM
unblock (21,095 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
6. of course, when he says "enough votes in the senate in 2014 to impeach", he means
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enough votes in the house to impeach and enough votes in the senate to remove.
and if you were to ask him about the "high crimes and misdemeanors" that are the grounds for impeachment, he means that obama is <strikeout>black</strikeout> a democrat. |
Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 06:07 PM
onehandle (28,547 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
7. I hope Grover Norquist has painful, persistant hemorrhoids.
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I bet you $10,000 my hope is more likely than his.
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Response to onehandle (Reply #7)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 11:41 AM
yourout (5,511 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
41. Grover Norquist IS painful, persistant hemorrhoid
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To bad there is no surgery to get rid of this pain in the ass.
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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 06:10 PM
thelordofhell (2,199 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
8. This Just In---Grover Norquist Concedes 2012 Election To President Obama
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republicans give up all hope for the Presidency in 2012!!
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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 06:11 PM
southernyankeebelle (4,262 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
9. I keep asking myself why would a working middle class republican would think it is ok that
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republicans sign pledges that is against their own interests. I think if I had gone to one of their hometown rallies that would be a question I would ask first off. If he answer that he would sign a pledge then I wouldn't vote for him. I would think this would be illegal.
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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 06:27 PM
SleeplessinSoCal (747 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
10. That's it. Republicans have to admit they hate the country that made their party possible.
Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 06:30 PM
Skink (8,562 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
11. Colbert should challenge him to debate
Response to Skink (Reply #11)
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 10:55 PM
cgnick (10 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
24. Ol' Grover would get sliced and diced. eom
Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 07:05 PM
bayareaboy (77 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
12. Or by 2014... ...
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Rover Grover might just be a member of the Whig party of the 21 century! |
Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 07:07 PM
madinmaryland (46,920 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
13. Hmmm. So the bathtub idiot thinks Obama will win in 2012, and the pukes will pick up 30 seats
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in the Senate.
What a fucking idiot. |
Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 07:16 PM
ProfessionalLeftist (2,092 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
14. Maybe Gingrich can take Grover to the moon with him
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and they can set up a tax-free colony/state for themselves and the dust. Pfft.
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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Reply #14)
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 07:43 PM
meow2u3 (11,553 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
19. Maybe Obama could use the powers Congress gave him (NDAA)
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to detain Norquist. After all, he does have ties to terrorist organizations
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Response to meow2u3 (Reply #19)
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 11:31 PM
LarryNM (156 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
26. + 1,000 n/t
Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 07:30 PM
Ebadlun (137 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
15. Who is he and why do Republicans give a shit what he thinks?
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I really can't figure it out - he must have a massive stash of photos.
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Response to Ebadlun (Reply #15)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 11:21 AM
JHB (14,628 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
39. he has better than photos: he knows who has the money...
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...and where they have it stashed.
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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 07:33 PM
roguevalley (31,186 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
16. This man is such a fucking bastard. I am amazed that anyone talks to him
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Last edited Fri Jan 27, 2012, 07:34 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) he's married to a muslim (which is not the point here. Who cares but their side which is the point. They will overlook stuff they hate to lick a dollar bill). their own personal hatreds have no internal cohesion. Fucker straight to the bone. I hope he gets audited. you know he cheats
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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 07:38 PM
fromwyoming (2 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
18. who is grover norquist?
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And why does he matter?
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Response to fromwyoming (Reply #18)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 11:24 AM
JHB (14,628 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
40. A vandal intent on plundering civilization...
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Last edited Sat Jan 28, 2012, 11:27 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) ...and he matters because he brings together a lot of like-minded hordes and helps keep them on-target against us. Without people like him they'd be just as likely to break ranks and chew each other apart.
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Response to fromwyoming (Reply #18)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 09:05 PM
Nevernose (8,103 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
49. Oddly enough, probably one of the most powerful men in DC
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Even though most people have never heard of him. Although far to the right of Reagan, he sees himself as Saint Raygun's torchbearer. He holds a weekly lunch meeting that is a veritable who's who of up and coming Republicans, and conservatives don't get anywhere in DC without his blessing. He makes everyone running for office sign a "tax pledge" that would make Ayn Rand proud, and it gets a little crazier every year. I think it's fair to say that he both shapes and reflects the Republican party's looniness as any given moment.
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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 08:11 PM
yellowcanine (20,604 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
21. Last time Republicans tried impeachment to overturn a Presidential election it didn't work out so
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well.
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Response to yellowcanine (Reply #21)
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 08:38 PM
Gore1FL (10,605 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
23. The last times they tried to emply supply-sides economics it didn't work out so well either.
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They aren't good at the scientific method.
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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 08:18 PM
sulphurdunn (2,282 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
22. Wow! In the Brave New Republican
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republic, permitting the legally agreed upon expiration of a tax reduction meets the constitutional impeachment standards of a "high crime or misdemeanor". You could make a better case for suggesting that any attempt to use the Constitution as a vehicle to remove a sitting president for political expediency is an act of treason.
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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 11:02 PM
Blue Owl (6,070 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
25. Shitquist
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n/t
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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 11:34 PM
jwirr (18,669 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
27. More obstruction. Same as with Bill Clinton.
Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 12:33 AM
schmice (65 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
28. Payback time
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Norquist is now going to demand payback for the money he has lavished on Republicans by ordering them to impeach the President.
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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 01:58 AM
VPStoltz (1,015 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
29. Grove...You'd better have SCOTUS review your case because your brain has been impeached long ago.
Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 02:31 AM
Obamacare (192 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
31. This Norquist dude
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whoever he is, just conceded the 2012 election to President Obama. He might be on to something, as in what we already know.lol
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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 03:19 AM
Lil Missy (13,152 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
33. Impeached for what? Being Black?
Response to Lil Missy (Reply #33)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 08:26 AM
Bolo Boffin (20,411 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
35. For letting taxes go higher.
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That's a high crime in Grover's little ledger book.
Mind you, it's not actually a crime, as in "not against the law." As a matter of fact, the tax cut is a law that expires, so this would be Obama honoring the actual law. But it snaps Grover's law in half, and that's ground for impeachment for him. I guess. Who knows what that idiot is thinking? |
Response to Bolo Boffin (Reply #35)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 10:32 AM
Lil Missy (13,152 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
38. Exactly. He's doing nothing impeachable by letting BUSH tax cuts expire.
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I know, I'm preaching to the chior.
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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 04:43 AM
gtar100 (2,043 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
34. "He's made no effort to work with Congress." Christ, Norquist is such an asshole.
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Repugs in congress have spent the last 4 years doing everything they can to block *any* and *every* measure put out by Obama and then he says shit like this. Norquist is going to learn the hard way one of these days that not everyone is as stupid as the republicans are. He can scheme all he wants on how to manipulate people, but he's been exposed as a liar and a greedy son-of-a-bitch. He better stay close to his ivory tower because that shit won't fly on the streets.
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Response to gtar100 (Reply #34)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 03:18 PM
WHEN CRABS ROAR (2,176 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
45. That statement could be mirrored to read,
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Congress has made no effort to work with Obama.
And there is the real problem. |
Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 08:41 AM
madrchsod (52,499 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
36. in the grand scheme of things..
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99.9 % of the people do not care what the fuck he says.
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Response to madrchsod (Reply #36)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 09:19 AM
Ebadlun (137 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
37. Unfortunately the remaining 0.1% includes rather a lot of congressmen
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For reasons I still can't quite make out.
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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 12:02 PM
CBHagman (12,719 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
42. "He's made no effort to work with Congress."
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That seems to be the new GOP mantra. It's the same old technique: Control the image of the opponent by stating something that is obviously untrue and/or calling into question his/her service and accomplishments. We've seen this movie many times.
So now the rational, fair-minded, consensus-building Obama is being depicted as a stiff-necked, prickly extremist. Expect this to ratchet up throughout the year, and don't be surprised if the media starts taking this as fact. That too is something we've seen a lot in recent years. |
Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 01:23 PM
NRaleighLiberal (20,873 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
43. a small, vile, horrible human being.
Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 02:57 PM
WingDinger (2,988 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
44. Havent heard from that Issa punk. He was supposed to impeach also.
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Tie Obama up with indictments and slander. This will accelerate their undoing. When you threaten, and then have no power, you are doomed.
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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 03:42 PM
TomClash (10,132 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
46. Norquist is the contemporary American Goebbels
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Whitewashing the history of a Black President.
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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 07:14 PM
PDJane (7,131 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
47. What are they going to impeach him for???
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Being black? Being right? Being good to babies? Being able to speak English?
I wish these people would get a grip. |
Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 08:37 PM
SemperEadem (6,341 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
48. aside from marriage vows
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why would any american pledge allegiance to anything other than the flag and the republic for which it stands? One nation; indivisible with liberty and justice for all.
That's what I have a problem with when it comes to office holders throwing in with 'pledges' to Norquist. Their first, lawfully sworn duty is to all of the people for whom they are elected to represent THEIR interests in this government, not to one of its citizens who doesn't want to pay his fair share of taxes. How would norquist know what was going on in meetings and negotiations Obama is having with whatever party? It's not like he's in the room--anything he hears, he hears second hand, a.k.a. hearsay, inadmissible. Clearly, he doesn't take seriously the various polling numbers which have come out recently showing the nation's total disgust with republicans of every level of government. Wisconsin must have gotten past him. It is insane and proof of living in an alternative universe to say that Obama has made no effort to work with congress. That has been the main problem! He goes too far for consensus, when norquist and all those of his stripe know that their mission was to frustrate the president implementing his policies. It has been admitted to as much by far too many. |
Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 11:43 PM
Zoeisright (5,029 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
50. Fuck you, Norquist.
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Just fuck you, you pig.
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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)
Sun Jan 29, 2012, 05:41 AM
on point (627 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
51. Another idiot repuke thought. Impeachment is for crimes. It is not = to a recall.
Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)
Sun Jan 29, 2012, 08:55 AM
Proud Liberal Dem (8,457 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
52. If Obama gets re-elected running on the same kind of message he delivered in his SOTU
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Last edited Sun Jan 29, 2012, 08:59 AM USA/ET - Edit history (2) then that means that voters support HIS position, not Norquist's, so Norquist is hyper-delusional if he thinks that people are going to support impeachment of Obama over letting the Bush Tax Cuts expire. Disagreeing with Grover Norquist over tax policy is NOT an impeachable offense. I also somewhat doubt if people are going to vote Obama in for a second term, as well as a hyper-obstructionist Republican Congress unless they're really dumb and don't want Obama to do anything.
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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)
Sun Jan 29, 2012, 11:02 AM
lonestarnot (66,662 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
53. On what grounds fuckwit!
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What a pig.
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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)
Sun Jan 29, 2012, 01:50 PM
Liberalman777 (8 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
54. They wanted to start Impeachment on Obama One day after he got elected..
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Tough crap morons! You have to have tangable reasons to impeach! Not just because they are Democrat and you think it's your God given right that a Republican occupies the White House!
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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)
Sun Jan 29, 2012, 02:45 PM
DCBob (11,657 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
55. What an idiot.
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There is no way on earth this will happen.
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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)
Sun Jan 29, 2012, 03:33 PM
rtracey (16 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
56. BS
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Fact is once the true Americans realize what Norquist and his cronie repubicans are really up too, they will vote them out. If you are senior, a woman, gay, black, Latino, Asian, Jewish, why would you EVER consider being a republican.
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