If Bernie REFUSES to hate on Hillary, then why do many of his DU supporters do it?

[RBInMaine]

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by cyberswede (a host of the 2016 Postmortem forum).

Isn't it hypocritical? I think Bernie himself, who I totally admire and will support if nominated, would be DISGUSTED by the sort of rotten things that some of his supporters are constantly doing here on DU. She isn't attacking Bernie Sanders. He isn't attacking her. So why are some Bernie supporters attacking her here? I lean toward Hillary, but I also really like Bernie too.

Hillary is NOT a "Republican."

She is NOT "right wing."

She is NOT a "liar." (The email thing is a load of foolishness being pushed endlessly by a bored and biased corporate media.)

She is someone who came right out of the American middle class raised by a mother who came from poverty and abandonment.

She has fought endlessly for women and children, was a good First Lady, a good Senator, and a very good Secretary of State. Is she a purist? No. My goodness, so few politicians and human beings are completely pure. Is she generally PROGRESSIVE, you bet your ass she is, and the Mount Everest of her record proves it beyond any argument. To say Hillary Clinton is "conservative" or "right wing" or any of that is sheer non-reality.

There is a VERY good chance Hillary will be the nominee. And I like her because she is STRONG, takes the fight HARD to the RePUKES, and would be a good president. She is BRILLIANT and VERY WELL QUALIFIED.

Also, again, I really like Bernie Sanders and agree with him on most issues and, again, will support Bernie if he is nominated. I don't have a bad thing to say about him and never have. (Yes, I have pointed out some issues around his viability, but nothing negative. Just some political analysis. NO attacks.)

So, as Bernie says, "enough is enough" and let's end the "negative campaigning", let's end the drama, and let's see the best in ALL of our candidates and not the worst.

[Warren Stupidity]

1. this week's talking point from HRC-central: Hillary Haterz. nt.

[Duckhunter935]

4. Yep

[Snotcicles]

5. This shit sure is getting old. nt

[beam me up scottie]

7. .

[RBInMaine]

12. Nope. You're dodging. I am writing what I see. Please, be substantive.

[MoveIt]

27. incompetence

abounds in that talking point workshop.

[99Forever]

2. Project much?

[Le Taz Hot]

3. I sometimes wonder if Hillary supporters

own any mirrors.

[HooptieWagon]

9. They're Masters of Projection.

[Scootaloo]

6. You really wanna know why?

Because Clinton supporters have insisted he's a Segregationist, and responsible for slavery in virginia

because they insist he is a rapist.

because they insist he protects pedophiles.

because according to them he's a gun nut in the pocket of the NRA.

To hear Clinton supporters talk, he is - I quote, "A republican with his head between women's legs."

He's said by Hillary supporters to be more loyal to Tel Aviv than the US.

On top of that he's craven, since he asked for (and did not receive) conscientious objector status.

Oh yeah, and all he thinks about is money, and he "has a problem with black people."

yeah, we know what that song and dance is about, Hillary supporters.

On top of that, he's a socialist! he has funny hair! Did you know he's white AND Jewish (yeah, like I said, we know what you're saying) The polls show that his numbers at 1:00 AM are the same as at 11:00 PM last night, he's peaked! We only support him because we're sexist white supremacists who hate Hillary and want republicans to win hargblargblargle!

[beam me up scottie]

13. But that's different!

Those posters are just concerned.

[rock]

8. It is funny that all the posts above me

Do NOT address your issue.

[Warren Stupidity]

18. It is a loaded question, e.g "when did you stop beating your wife".

It is getting exactly the response it deserves.

[rock]

22. Nope

You're making stuff up!

[Gman]

11. It's pathological

They can't help themselves. And apparently Sanders attracts this personality type.

[TwilightGardener]

14. What is it to you if some people dislike your chosen candidate?

It's all right not to like somebody, and to say so.

[djean111]

15. Remember, boys and girls, any criticism of Hillary's issues is HATING, SMEARING, AND BASHING.

All the OPs and posts about Bernie's perceived lack of support, his endorsements that some do not like, his refusal to use the Congressional gym, where, it seems, most deals are struck?, all those and more - those people are merely being HELPFUL, because they think that OBVIOUSLY we just are TOO STOOPID to support THEIR candidate.

And, personally, whether it is Bernie or Hillary or anybody, I do not really care squat about their moms, as far as a reason to support someone who could possibly fuck up my life and my family's life. I DO care if someone has started beating the "hell, yeah, I will put other family's kids' boots on the ground!" drum, though.

[treestar]

20. No it is not

All politicians get criticized. There's no reason for this repetitive high horse on DU any more.

[djean111]

24. The author of the OP either does not understand that, or is being WILLFULLY OBTUSE.

It is all they really have at this point, they are just killing time, waiting to gloat or something.
The constant Pledge-y Thing has gone from irritating to tiresome to entertaining, and now has come back to irritating.

[HooptieWagon]

28. I'll take 'Willfully Obtuse' for $50 Alex.

It's just a lame bait thread attacking Sanders supporters. Nothing new, and it's getting the ridicule it deserves.

[RBInMaine]

26. Mature responses please. It is one thing to discuss issues and another to hate. Some hate.

fair discussion of issues may be one thing, but unless you are totally blind you know as well as I do that some of these posts are pure attacks. Some of it has been just rotten and you know it. She has been called "Republican," "conservative," "neocon," "war hawk," "war monger," "corporatist," "late to support gay marriage," and on and on and on. It is negative and beyond-reality attacking. It stinks, and Bernie would say it stinks.

[HooptieWagon]

30. You're getting the responses a bait thread deserves.

[beam me up scottie]

33. She's not a Republican but the rest of your examples are valid criticisms.

It's not hate when you criticize her record and compare it to the progressive candidate.

[djean111]

34. Exactly what I was thinking!

[treestar]

16. It is interesting how much of his support

is only because he is "not Hillary" - he probably didn't run for that purpose. But once he did, people who could not stand Hillary jumped onto the bandwagon - he could have been anybody saying anything.

[tularetom]

17. I'm sure she loves puppies and is very kind to the help

But as presidential material, she is somewhat lacking. At least from the standpoint of Democratic party principles.

She supports fracking, the TPP, the Keystone pipeline, the war on drugs, the prison industrial complex, and opposes a fair minimum wage, legalization of marijuana, reinstatement of Glass Stegall.

And she is a self admitted liar. "I came under sniper fire in Bosnia" and "We were dead broke when we left the White House" are just two examples.

We can do better.

Oh yeah I almost forgot. I don't "hate" Ms Clinton. Hell, I don't hate anybody, although Id have to say Dick Cheney comes pretty close. I just don't think she is in any way qualified to be president.

[HooptieWagon]

19. I'm LMAO...

After the weeks of red-baiting from the Hillary supporters, they're whining about Hillary being called 'republican lite'.
Maybe if they stopped the name calling and lies, it wouldn't keep blowing up in their faces? Self-destructive, just like their candidate.

[treestar]

21. I'm LMAO

Bernie wasn't even running at all when that all started.

[HooptieWagon]

23. True that. It was going on in 2007.

It's how they roll.

[Autumn]

25. I doubt anyone here fucking hates Hillary and that includes Bernie supporters.

Here's the problem, most Hillary supporters consider anything other than "Oh my she looks lovely in that pink pant suit, she is so awesome" to be "negative campaigning" by Bernie supporters here.

[RBInMaine]

29. Yes, some of the attacks have been rotten and hateful.

I'm glad you aren't among them. And please, the "pink suit" comment is ridiculous. Let's please have a mature conversation. Read my whole post. It may be one thing to have a calm discussion of issues. It's another to attack, and some Bernie supporters are attacking. Just read the posts. It has been ridiculous in some cases.

[HooptieWagon]

35. If you want a mature conversation...

...then try not to begin it with an immature bait thread. You might think you're being coy, but we've been seeing this crap from Hillary supporters for 8 years now. You're getting the responses you deserve.

[artislife]

31. If Hillary loves all people

Why do her supporters create OP after OP on how heinous Bernie's supporters are?

[Trajan]

32. You're too close to the object of your desire to get it

Disagreeing with Hillary isn't hate ... It's disagreement ... There's a better option for voters. .. It's nothing more than that ...

[cyberswede]

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