2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumMost Hillary haters care about personality. Most Hillary supporters care about the issues
Historically supporters of both Clinton's have advocated less blowjob-related, email related coverage, as it takes time away from their views on the economy, social issues, etc.
It is safe to say that Hillary supporters are the least gossip-oriented voters.
For instance when Bill Clinton spoke about Obama's views on the Iraq War as a fairy tale (policy), many Hillary haters pretended that Clinton referred to Obama as a candidate as a fairy tale (gossip).
sibelian
(7,804 posts)I don't want to jump on you as you're new to the board, but... let's just say I don't think that theory will hold so much water if we used THIS board as it's testing ground.
djean111
(14,255 posts)overblown hyperbole.
I don't hate Hillary - I don't even care about her, really. Here is what I hate - the TPP, fracking, war (which she has just doubled down on), cluster bombs, and H-1B visas. Those are ISSUES.
Don't care about the gossip, I have not seen the gossip here at DU. But the GOP is really looking forward to the gossip, and that is why we say Hillary has baggage.
Oh, DU is not advocating that coverage. Personally, though, there is no denying that it happened, and there is no denying that it weakens her as a candidate, with GOP voters. You can't admonish the GOP to shut up. Or the MSM. It seems to me that it should have been expected - the gossip. If you can't do the time, don't do the crime sort of thing.
You put it beautifully.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)And then tell me again about overblown hyperbole.
Some percentage of the Anti-Clinton posts are undoubtedly from conservative trolls, but that also means that some are not from trolls. In two days of admittedly random checks, I have yet to find an Anti-Sanders post. There do exist Pro-Clinton and Pro-Sanders posts.
demmiblue
(36,838 posts)Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)still working on that humor bit though.....
leveymg
(36,418 posts)This one is jam-packed with logical and factual error. Labels and childish slurs. No nutritional value.
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)It's like the Society for Eternal Victimhood were having a convention on the same day as the National Association for Martyrs.
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)Hard to say which one deserves to be flushed more.
Lord Have Mercy
(24 posts)Name one.
SonderWoman
(1,169 posts)And rallying the Democratic party in house and senate. Bernie will be a punching bag for the rightwing.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)If you think the same Republicans who made obstructionism their mission with the first black president won't do the same thing to a woman POTUS you're delusional.
Face it, any Dem will come up against the same roadblocks.
SonderWoman
(1,169 posts)NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)Sanders supporters prefer to deal with Social Security by raising the income cap. Hillary supporters despise that idea and would rather explore cuts in benefits, raising the retirement age, and means testing. That is an issue related difference.
Sanders supporters prefer to reject trade deals such as TPP that only serve to lower wages at home and move jobs offshore. Hillary supporters despise that approach and think the TPP is what is needed to spark the economy, even if it is just to the wealthy and corporate interests. That is an issue related difference.
Sanders supporters would elect to implement a single-payer healthcare system in the US that guarantees healthcare for all Americans. Hillary supporters despise that idea and prefer to seek a market driven alternative that does not exclude the for profit middleman insurance companies. That is an issue related difference.
Sanders supporters view the environment as a top priority that requires immediate and concrete actions such as stopping the Keystone XL, whereas Clinton supporters feel it is important to give a bit of lip service to the cause of the environment, but not do anything as dramatic as stopping Keystone as the Koch brothers have to be able to move that product somehow. That is an issue related difference.
Sanders supporters look at the plight of the American middle class and believe that as the greatest and wealthiest nation on earth we should be able to pay folks a living wage, and feel that $15/hr is a good starting point. Hillary supporters talk around the edges of the issue of minimum wage..but $15/hr?? Oy vey...how about $undisclosed.amt. That is an issue related difference.
and the list can go on...and on, but we're working today so no time for that. Perhaps someone else can pick up where I left off.
ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)CanonRay
(14,098 posts)I think your beginning position is part of the problem we have here at DU.