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Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 12:22 AM Aug 2015

Sanders to tell DNC that 'establishment politics won't do it'

Bernie Sanders will take his anti-establishment rhetoric to the most establishment Democratic meeting in the country on Friday.

According to an aide, the Vermont senator will argue during his speech at the Democratic National Committee summer meeting in Minneapolis that "if Democrats want to keep the White House and recapture Congress and make gains in statehouses, then establishment politics won't do it."

Sanders will call on the DNC to take on the establishment -- namely Wall Street, big banks and corporations -- not be beholden to them.

The same aide said Sanders will also do a little boasting that "few would deny he is generating excitement and that's what the party needs."


http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/27/politics/bernie-sanders-establishment-politics-dnc/index.html?eref=rss_politics

I, for one, welcome this. Democrats need to act like Democrats, even when they're Social Democrats.
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Sanders to tell DNC that 'establishment politics won't do it' (Original Post) Fawke Em Aug 2015 OP
He has his work cut out for him. The DNC is owned by the Oligarchs and want either Clinton or Bush. rhett o rick Aug 2015 #1
We'll know how it goes over. Fawke Em Aug 2015 #2
I think you're right. The rank and file committee people are pretty much like DUers. hedda_foil Aug 2015 #3
Well said. nm rhett o rick Aug 2015 #17
K & R !!! WillyT Aug 2015 #4
Hell yah! 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #5
K&R JackInGreen Aug 2015 #6
Enough! RobertEarl Aug 2015 #7
So, Sanders has never been to any DNC meeting and only one Democratic Convention? leftofcool Aug 2015 #8
Somebody needs to, has the Democratic Party been doing all that well in controlling Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #9
Perfect response Armstead Aug 2015 #10
They didn't lose faith, they merely evolved to the point of view of Al From. HereSince1628 Aug 2015 #12
Why even post on a Democratic site if you dislike the Democratic party? SonderWoman Aug 2015 #20
Dislike the Democratic Party!? If I disliked the Democratic Party, would I even give a rat's ass? Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #21
One would think if he didn't like how the Democrats run their party, he would quit the party. MohRokTah Aug 2015 #14
If Bernie.... Adrahil Aug 2015 #11
I'm a Democrat, but I'm not registered. Fawke Em Aug 2015 #13
This meme is getting old. He is and has been more of an FDR Democrat jwirr Aug 2015 #16
Lol...makes me laugh... AOR Aug 2015 #18
Today I got no less than 5 emails BEGGING for money from top Dems. jwirr Aug 2015 #15
AKA Obama and Hillary and O'Malley. SonderWoman Aug 2015 #19

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
2. We'll know how it goes over.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 12:30 AM
Aug 2015

I'm betting the run-of-the-mill DNC member will applaud - the key is to see if the establishment rattles their jewelry or doubles down on ignoring his points.

hedda_foil

(16,371 posts)
3. I think you're right. The rank and file committee people are pretty much like DUers.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 12:46 AM
Aug 2015

I remember when Howard Dean (who was then the Chairman of the Democratic Governors Association) got up to speak at the Winter 2003 DNC meeting and said very forcefully, "I represent the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party, and I want my party back!" The room exploded in ebullient cheering.

It's the party elite who freaked out then and will do so tomorrow when Bernie speaks to them.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
5. Hell yah!
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 01:21 AM
Aug 2015

It's called shooting the moon, in the game of hearts.

It really is now or never. All or nothing. No going back.

GO BERNIE!! I fucking love the cut of your jib.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
7. Enough!
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 02:03 AM
Aug 2015

No more of the same old, same old.

Let your hair down, DNC, and let's Parteeee! Yes, you heard me right, let's make a party out of this party.

Who does not like a good party? Only fudee-duds, of which too many of the DNC are.

This is a new day, a new age, and the world belongs to the kids, so give them what they want. Hope for Change!

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
8. So, Sanders has never been to any DNC meeting and only one Democratic Convention?
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 06:48 AM
Aug 2015

But he want to tell Democrats how to run the party? Okie dokie!

Uncle Joe

(58,331 posts)
9. Somebody needs to, has the Democratic Party been doing all that well in controlling
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 08:20 AM
Aug 2015

Congress and at the state level?

Since Reagan the Republicans have dominated all levels of government with only a couple of intermittent breaks.

It's like the Democratic Party lost faith in its highest ideals and if you don't have faith in your own argument, how can you convince the American People to support you?

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
12. They didn't lose faith, they merely evolved to the point of view of Al From.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 09:32 AM
Aug 2015

Which was basically a popular meme of the 80's.

Your $uccess depends on the people you hang with.

So the dem leadership dumped organized labor for Wall St.

Uncle Joe

(58,331 posts)
21. Dislike the Democratic Party!? If I disliked the Democratic Party, would I even give a rat's ass?
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 07:46 PM
Aug 2015

No I would just keep blindly cheering them on their past 35 year dead end course of action, go team go!




 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
14. One would think if he didn't like how the Democrats run their party, he would quit the party.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 10:56 AM
Aug 2015

OOPS! I forgot, he isn't a Democrat.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
11. If Bernie....
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 09:25 AM
Aug 2015

Takes the opportunity to embrace the party and encourages change AS a Democrat, and not simply lecturing TO democrats, he could have a big impact. Let's see if he can actually swallow his pride and do that.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
13. I'm a Democrat, but I'm not registered.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 10:41 AM
Aug 2015

In my state - as in Vermont - you don't have to register with a party to consider yourself a member. We have open primaries. You just go up to the clerk and tell him or her in which primary you'll be voting and, "voila," they give you a number that tells the computer which ballot to place in front of you.

I agree with the commenters above that the problem with the Democratic Party is that they have abandoned the working and middle classes to chase Wall Street money, giving voters no clear choices. I'm of the opinion that if you give the voters a divide, they'll side. The Republicans know who they are - the are regressive and scared.

I want to know who the Democrats are, not who they are slightly better than.

I guess to those of us in open primary states, the argument of being a member of a party is just odd. I vote for Democrats, therefore, I am a Democrat.

Bernie caucuses with the Democrats, so I simply consider him a Democrat - but with a clearer vision than what Debbie Wassermann-Schulz has been telling me.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
16. This meme is getting old. He is and has been more of an FDR Democrat
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 11:19 AM
Aug 2015

for a long time than many of our present elected democrats and candidates. Read his record and who he has been caucusing with. Read the issues he stands for.

 

AOR

(692 posts)
18. Lol...makes me laugh...
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 05:33 PM
Aug 2015

even the proposed crumbs thrown to the working class in Bernie's platform scares the shit out of the Democratic Party status quo hacks. The current state of the Democratic Party needs more than a lecture. They need a kick in the ass every day of the week until they move back to any semblance of being for the working class over capital and the owners. The current leadership of the Democratic Party are the ones who need to "swallow their pride" - and actually understand the anger on the ground - not Sanders.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
15. Today I got no less than 5 emails BEGGING for money from top Dems.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 11:15 AM
Aug 2015

Not for their personal campaigns but for the party. They openly admitted they are hurting.

They may ne more open to letting Bernie lead than we think. Maybe the fact that we are sending our money to him will have some effect. I hope so. They cannot be that blind.

 

SonderWoman

(1,169 posts)
19. AKA Obama and Hillary and O'Malley.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 07:03 PM
Aug 2015

WTF is he even doing running in the Dem primary if he is against establishment politics?

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