Fyi: both think progress and media matters are connected to Hillary's campaign

[cali]

I have no problem with that except neither, as far as I know, reveals that they support her. Many people think they're just unaffiliated liberal blogs, so for the record, Media Matters is run by her erstwhile enemy turned staunch supporter, David Brock. He is also involved with her Super-Pac, Correct The Record. Think Progress is the blog of the Center For American Progress, that is essentially a Hillary think tank . It's chairman is John Podesta who also chairs her campaign.

[moobu2]

1. Nice to know.

I went to those websites occasionally but now since I know they're on the right side I'm going to make a shortcut link to them. Do you know any more?

[cali]

2. glad to have helped you become a little more informed.

Voters should be informed about things like this. Of course that's difficult when outlets aren't forthcoming.

[demwing]

105. "but now since I know they're on the right side" - LOL

oh, the irony...

[Smarmie Doofus]

3. I did not know that. K and R n/t

[cali]

4. you didn't know it because they're intentionally deceptive

[OKNancy]

5. Anyone who follows politics and especially Hillary knows that

Me: BFD

[Fearless]

6. That's simply untrue.

What's the harm it mentioning it?

[Fuddnik]

8. Well, someone who gives a shit might care.

Others would like to keep the lights out on the cockroaches.

[cali]

9. no, most folks don't know that. they deserve to.

[KoKo]

68. Center for American Progress: Gates Foundation, UAI Foundation, Walton Family Foundation...etc.

Center for American Progress

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_for_American_Progress

The Center for American Progress (CAP) is a progressive public policy research and advocacy organization.[2] According to CAP, the center is "dedicated to improving the lives of Americans through progressive ideas and action."[2] The Center presents a liberal[3] viewpoint on economic issues. It has its headquarters in Washington, D.C.[4]

The president and chief executive officer of CAP is Neera Tanden, who worked for the Obama and Clinton administrations and for Hillary Clinton’s campaigns.[5] The first president and CEO was John Podesta, who served as chief of staff to then U.S. President Bill Clinton. Podesta remained with the organization as chairman of the board until he joined the Obama White House staff in December 2013. Tom Daschle is the current chairman.

The Center for American Progress runs a campus outreach group, Generation Progress, and a sister advocacy organization, the Center for American Progress Action Fund. Citing Podesta's influence in the formation of the Obama Administration, a November 2008 article in Time stated that "not since the Heritage Foundation helped guide Ronald Reagan's transition in 1981 has a single outside group held so much sway".[6]

Center for American Progress Action Fund

Formerly known simply as the American Progress Action Fund, the Center for American Progress Action Fund is a "sister advocacy organization" and is organizationally and financially separate from CAP, although they share many staff and a physical address. Politico wrote in April 2011 that it "openly runs political advocacy campaigns, and plays a central role in the Democratic Party’s infrastructure, and the new reporting staff down the hall isn’t exactly walled off from that message machine, nor does it necessarily keep its distance from liberal groups organizing advocacy campaigns targeting conservatives”.[17] Whereas CAP is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit, the fund is a 501(c)(4), allowing it to devote more funds to lobbying.[18] In 2003, George Soros promised to financially support the organization by donating up to $3 million.[19] The action fund is headed by Jennifer Palmieri.[17]

Criticism

Some open government groups, such as the Sunlight Foundation and the Campaign Legal Center, criticize the Center's failure to disclose its contributors, particularly since it is so influential in appointments to the Obama administration.[20][21]

Center for American Progress Action Fund

Formerly known simply as the American Progress Action Fund, the Center for American Progress Action Fund is a "sister advocacy organization" and is organizationally and financially separate from CAP, although they share many staff and a physical address. Politico wrote in April 2011 that it "openly runs political advocacy campaigns, and plays a central role in the Democratic Party’s infrastructure, and the new reporting staff down the hall isn’t exactly walled off from that message machine, nor does it necessarily keep its distance from liberal groups organizing advocacy campaigns targeting conservatives”.[17] Whereas CAP is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit, the fund is a 501(c)(4), allowing it to devote more funds to lobbying.[18] In 2003, George Soros promised to financially support the organization by donating up to $3 million.[19] The action fund is headed by Jennifer Palmieri.[17]

Funding

The Center for American Progress is a 501(c)(3) organization under U.S. Internal Revenue Code. In 2013, CAP received $42 million from a variety of sources, including individuals, foundations, labor unions, and corporations.[30] From 2003 to 2007, CAP received about $15 million in grants from 58 foundations. Major individual donors include George Soros, Peter Lewis, Steve Bing, and Herb and Marion Sandler. The Center receives undisclosed sums from corporate donors.[31]CAP has emerged as perhaps the most influential of all think tanks during the Obama era, and there’s been a rapidly revolving door between it and the administration. CAP is also among the most secretive of all think tanks concerning its donors. Most major think tanks prepare an annual report containing at least some financial and donor information and make it available on their websites. According to CAP spokeswoman Andrea Purse, the center doesn’t even publish one.[32]In December 2013, the organization released a list of its corporate donors, which include Walmart, CitiGroup, Wells Fargo, defense contractor Northrup Grumman, America's Health Insurance Plans, and Eli Lilly and Company.[33]

In 2015, CAP released a partial list of its donors, which included 28 anonymous donors accounting for at least $5 million in contributions. Named donors included the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and the Embassy of the United Arab Emirates, which each gave between $500,000 and $999,999. CAP’s top donors include Walmart and Citigroup, each of which have given between $100,000 and $499,000.[34][35]


2015 Donors (excluding anonymous)[36] Level

Ford Foundation $1,000,000+
The Hutchins Family Foundation $1,000,000+
Sandler Foundation $1,000,000+
TomKat Charitable Trust $1,000,000+
Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation $500,000 to $999,999
Joyce Foundation $500,000 to $999,999
Not On Our Watch $500,000 to $999,999
Open Square Charitable Gift Fund $500,000 to $999,999
Embassy of United Arab Emirates $500,000 to $999,999
Walton Family Foundation $500,000 to $999,999
The William and Flora Hewlett Foundation $500,000 to $999,999

[cali]

11. I think a person or organization supporting a candidate should reveal that

[OKNancy]

18. it's no secret, especially media matters

Article after article has been written about Brock.
The problem is, and I see it in other threads, is that folks who only follow their own candidate tend to be uninformed about what is up with the others in the race. They don't read about Hillary or don't care, so they have no idea.
For example, someone recently posted that she didn't mingle with the crowd in Iowa... she did.

There is no harm in you mentioning it, but otoh, it's kind of reaching for something to be concerned about.

[MelissaB]

33. Well, I didn't know

and appreciate the info. I'm sure there are others as well.

[artislife]

94. Especially since it is the H supporters

who tell the site which news is okay and what polls to disregard.

Funny how they don't mention, oh by the way...this one is in our pocket.

Being a Bernie fan, I am suspect of the establishment dem/left anyway. Lots of entrenched people hoping for a great payback if H comes to power.

[peacebird]

44. I follow politics and did not know it. Thank you cali for posting this!

It IS a Big Freaking Deal because they do not disclose their bias,

[Thespian2]

7. Prefer Common Dreams,

A J, and UK Guardian...I never look to "MSM" for any real information...

I don't read Media Matters...do look at ThinkProgress occasionally...

[SonderWoman]

10. Under the bus?

[cali]

12. just the facts. do you seriously have a problem with the facts being presented?

Amusing.

[SonderWoman]

13. Not at all. Media Matters and TP do amazing work.

Media Matters especially. There is no better media watchdog than MM, and TP is a wealth of information. I encourage everyone to subscribe to those 2 websites.

[cali]

19. didn't say they weren't good resources

for many things

[BooScout]

56. except when they are correcting the issues on St Bernard...

Got it in one. Anyone else you want to throw under the bus?

[Fawke Em]

58. Cali didn't throw them under the bus.

But, Bernie did make the tractor-pulled parking-lot-to-fair buses stop on the main concourse yesterday.

The crowd was so thick, they couldn't get through.

[cali]

108. they can bash bernie from now to Iowa, just reveal their connections to the Clinton campaign.

This is simple, basic shit. I can only conclude, that you support deceptive practices and dislike transparency

[oasis]

85. When Fox's Bill O'reily criticizes Media Matters nearly every night,

they must be on our side, big time

[artislife]

95. Who watches to know that? nt

[oasis]

96. I do, occasionally.

[artislife]

97. You are very strong!

I can't stomach watching vids of him...no cable so I am lucky I don't have to see it!

[oasis]

98. Gotta know what makes them tick. Btw

Some years ago I read David Brock's "Blinded by the Right". Brock woke up and joined our side about 15- 20 years ago.He began as a right wing hack slandering Anita Hill among others. His drinking pals were Laura Ingram and the late, Barbara Olsen, career Clinton haters.

Brock knows how the right wing media operates with their and outright lies and deception. He was commissioned to write hit pieces on lefties by big time right wing whacko publishers.

He put his knowledge to work at Media Matters, a media watchdog.

[artislife]

99. I stick to reading it

The dramatic voices are too much to handle.

I do believe people can change, we are an adaptable species. And I think we can change quickly, it takes one incident to impact a life and stir us out of our stupor.

[oasis]

101. So true.

After living in Hawaii I've found I can accept differing points of view when presented in a respectful manner. Of course, when I lived in Hawaii, the state was overwhelmingly Dem. Most of the Republicans were tolerable because they were moderate.

[cali]

109. they are on hillary's team. no problem except they don't practice transparency.

[1StrongBlackMan]

17. LOL ... eventually, DU will be the only approved information source. n/t

[SonderWoman]

22. DU IS OWNED BY HILLARY SUPPORTERS!

[1StrongBlackMan]

23. Oh damn ...

[cali]

31. And guess what? they've been clear about that. duh.

[Android3.14]

36. Oh those sneaky HRC supporters

It's all about misinformation and misdirection, isn't it?

[1StrongBlackMan]

37. ???

[DemocratSinceBirth]

63. Only after the sweep is complete, my brother, only after the sweep is complete...

[hootinholler]

14. I had no idea!

Thank you Cali!

[ca3799]

15. CAP Board Members

Podesta is not the Chairman for CAP, but he is a board member.

CAP Mission Statement: "The Center for American Progress is an independent nonpartisan policy institute that is dedicated to improving the lives of all Americans, through bold, progressive ideas, as well as strong leadership and concerted action. Our aim is not just to change the conversation, but to change the country."

Board of Directors:

Sen. Tom Daschle, Chair
Neera Tanden, President
Secretary Madeleine Albright
Carol Browner
Glenn Hutchins
Richard Leone
John Podesta
Susan Sandler
Tom Steyer
Donald Sussman
Jose Villarreal
Hansjörg Wyss

[cali]

20. he directed it for years

[KoKo]

74. CAP FUNDERS:

Funding
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_for_American_Progress

The Center for American Progress is a 501(c)(3) organization under U.S. Internal Revenue Code. In 2013, CAP received $42 million from a variety of sources, including individuals, foundations, labor unions, and corporations.[30] From 2003 to 2007, CAP received about $15 million in grants from 58 foundations. Major individual donors include George Soros, Peter Lewis, Steve Bing, and Herb and Marion Sandler. The Center receives undisclosed sums from corporate donors.[31]CAP has emerged as perhaps the most influential of all think tanks during the Obama era, and there’s been a rapidly revolving door between it and the administration. CAP is also among the most secretive of all think tanks concerning its donors. Most major think tanks prepare an annual report containing at least some financial and donor information and make it available on their websites. According to CAP spokeswoman Andrea Purse, the center doesn’t even publish one.[32]In December 2013, the organization released a list of its corporate donors, which include Walmart, CitiGroup, Wells Fargo, defense contractor Northrup Grumman, America's Health Insurance Plans, and Eli Lilly and Company.[33]

In 2015, CAP released a partial list of its donors, which included 28 anonymous donors accounting for at least $5 million in contributions. Named donors included the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and the Embassy of the United Arab Emirates, which each gave between $500,000 and $999,999. CAP’s top donors include Walmart and Citigroup, each of which have given between $100,000 and $499,000.[34][35]

2015 Donors (excluding anonymous)[36] Level

Ford Foundation $1,000,000+
The Hutchins Family Foundation $1,000,000+
Sandler Foundation $1,000,000+
TomKat Charitable Trust $1,000,000+
Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation $500,000 to $999,999
Joyce Foundation $500,000 to $999,999
Not On Our Watch $500,000 to $999,999
Open Square Charitable Gift Fund $500,000 to $999,999
Embassy of United Arab Emirates $500,000 to $999,999
Walton Family Foundation $500,000 to $999,999
The William and Flora Hewlett Foundation $500,000 to $999,999

Center for American Progress Action Fund

.[17] Whereas CAP is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit, the fund is a 501(c)(4), allowing it to devote more funds to lobbying.[18] In 2003, George Soros promised to financially support the organization by donating up to $3 million.[19] The action fund is headed by Jennifer Palmieri.[17]

Criticism

Some open government groups, such as the Sunlight Foundation and the Campaign Legal Center, criticize the Center's failure to disclose its contributors, particularly since it is so influential in appointments to the Obama administration.[20][21]

[cali]

81. jennifer palmieri who heads the CAP fund is Hill's Director of Communications

Isn't that cozy?

[Doctor_J]

16. Thanks for the heads up

More info is always better

[demmiblue]

21. Good to know.

Right-leaning site or left-leaning site, people deserve to know the politics/agendas that are going on in the background.

[demmiblue]

24. Wow, they are really out to get you!

Why in the world was this post hidden?!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=519979

I wonder if this OP was alerted on.

[cali]

29. that post hide bullshit. I called out the author of the piece posted a liar.

I did not call a duer a liar, but some hysterical hilly devotee alerted. You seem to have a problem with factual information being posted here.

Aww, what a same. Poor you.

[demmiblue]

32. It was clear who you were referring to (the author of the piece).

I didn't even have to read it a second time to figure that one out.

You are a strong woman who doesn't agree with them... I guess they find that threatening.

[JDPriestly]

47. The OP in that thread is based on falsehoods.

I heard Bernie speak in Los Angeles nearly a week ago. He raised women's issues from abortion to family leave to equal pay -- covered them.

I suspect that a lot of Hillary supporters came into this campaign with set ideas about who they wanted to win, and they are now out to prove that their candidate is the only one addressing or caring about their issues.

I also suspect that they don't listen to Bernie's speeches and they are, to say this politely, ill informed about what Bernie stands for.

Keeping this on a polite level, it would be helpful if we all not only researched our own favoritte candidate but look at the ideas and listened to the speeches of the other candidates as well. You never know. We might even change our minds about who we support.

It's never too late to learn something.

[demmiblue]

51. Wise words.

Thank you for this well thought out contribution.

I initially backed Sanders, but I am holding off full support until I learn more about O'Malley.

[JDPriestly]

53. Even if we don't back a candidate, we should listen to them because a candidate we don't support

in the primary may have an idea that we do like, and we may support that idea even if we choose a different candidate. I wanted to hear O'Malley speak at the Netroots Nation. That is why I was so disappointed in the BLM demonstration as it was done. It deprived a lot of people of the chance to hear an important speech.

[cantbeserious]

25. Yes - Even Progressive Media Can No Longer Be Counted On For Objectivity

eom

[66 dmhlt]

26. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...............

[bigtree]

27. one reason to take her candidacy seriously

...both excellent sources of info.

[cali]

30. lol. I know you don't care about transparency.

[bigtree]

50. lol?

...these are excellent news sources, however superior you're feeling about your own view of 'transparency.'

[cali]

110. look, this is basic fucking shit. reveal that you support and are working to get Hillary

elected. Yeah, you don't care about transparency if you don't get that.

[Comrade Grumpy]

57. Excellent sources backing one candidate. It's always good to keep editorial perspective in mind.

[Zorra]

28. Thanks. nt

[Android3.14]

34. Think Progress and Media Matters are to Clinton what Breitbart is to Trump

So for the extent of the election, Think Progress and Media Matters are to Clinton what Breitbart is to Trump.
Oh that is sneaky

[cali]

35. I don't know what breitbart is to trump

but mm and tp are partisan and are widely just known as liberal news sources, not organizations connected to Clinton.

[Android3.14]

38. Oh my God, that is funny! Did you even read your own OP?

"think progress and media matters are connected to Hillary's campaign" - cali

You might also follow the link I provided regarding an article showing Breitbart is heavily biased towards Trump, much as you have shown we should be alert for bias from TP and MM.

[cali]

41. I have never read breitbart.

[Android3.14]

46. It sounds like you are not actually comprehending what I wrote

I just pointed out how you have two statements, one in the OP and one just upthread that directly and blatantly contradict each other.

I tried to point it out with a little humor, but that should be a flag that something is out of kilter.

[cali]

48. sorry that's in your head.

[Android3.14]

55. Ah, the power of a comma

"sorry that's in your head."

I accept your apology. As you recognized, the observation of the contradiction wouldn't be in my head except for your statements.

[Jim Lane]

61. Sorry, I'm not seeing the contradiction, would you explain?

The gist here is:

(1) TP and MMfA are generally liberal organizations.
(2) Each of them has strong ties to the Clinton campaign.
(3) Fact (1) is widely known and fact (2) is not.

It seems to me that all three statements are true, so where's the blatant contradiction?

[Android3.14]

64. Here it is

Cali wrote in the OP, "both think progress and media matters are connected to Hillary's campaign".

Cali wrote in a response to me, "but mm and tp are partisan and are widely just known as liberal news sources, not organizations connected to Clinton."

Note the "are connected" followed by the "not organizations connected".

[cali]

71. wow. that is really lame. And no, there is no contradiction.

[Jim Lane]

73. You've misinterpreted it.

"are connected" - yes
"are widely ... known as liberal news sources" - yes
The "not organizations connected" is in the context of what they are widely known as. They are widely known as liberal but just that, i.e., not widely known as other things, i.e., their connection with Clinton is not widely known.

Another example, same structure but perhaps less fraught with partisanship: "Emma Goldman is widely just known as an activist, not the proprietor of an ice cream shop." Both statements about her are true but almost no one knows that she briefly ran an ice cream shop in Worcester, Massachusetts. There's no contradiction between saying that her activism is widely known and saying that her business career is not widely known.

[Maedhros]

77. You are NOWHERE CLOSE to as clever as you think you are. [n/t]

[Android3.14]

78. You've managed to hurt my feelings

I just misunderstood, but you are mean.

[dreamnightwind]

102. You were the one being mean

and you were wrong.

[Maedhros]

104. I'm sure your feelings are just fine. [n/t]

[Android3.14]

66. I think I figured out where things went off the rails

You left the implication unsaid.
You wrote "but mm and tp are partisan and are widely just known as liberal news sources, not organizations connected to Clinton." But it wasn't until a few hours later I recognized your implication. It would be appropriate to add, ".., at least that's what everybody thought."

Ah, text. It is so powerful, and so weak.

[Autumn]

111. i guess text could be so powerful, and so weak,

if cali had actually typed the text that you think she should have typed.

[zeemike]

39. I did not know that.

But then I assume all big media has been co oped in one way or the other.
The 1% has a lot of money to spend and controlling information is a top priority.

[KoKo]

70. See post #68..for Center for American Progress, info. n/t

[George II]

40. And?

[cali]

43. And I like to know when bias exists

[JDPriestly]

42. Thanks. Good to know.

[peacebird]

45. K&R!

[Autumn]

49. Thank's cali. I wasn't aware of that.

[ibegurpard]

52. Yes I knew that

And judge their specific content accordingly. Overall I still find them to be fair and providing a necessary balance to the complete NOTHING from the mainstream media and the rightwing propaganda out there.

[leveymg]

54. Picked up on that - the HRC Group and minions have been reposting TP and MMA/CAP, a lot

[sadoldgirl]

59. Thank you very much, was not aware of it. n/t

[DemocraticWing]

60. I knew about Media Matters, but that's enlightening about Think Progress

Think Progress has a writer who has been really anti-Bernie for the last couple months. I had to unfollow him on Twitter because it was just a steady stream of "Bernie bad, bad, bad."

I'm all for promoting your candidate, just don't tell me you're an objective reporter while doing it. You're no more objective than I am.

[dsc]

62. I think that is a fair point

I checked both places and neither one states they are connected to Clinton.

[MineralMan]

65. Under the bus with both of them, then.

[cali]

69. uh, quite the stretch there.

[MineralMan]

72. uh, no, I don't think so.

Truly. But, I'm glad to see that you don't have me on Ignore. I was about to stop responding to your OPs.

[Vattel]

79. Cali didn't recommend throwing them under the bus or ignoring them

nor did she say that they never provide good reporting or good analysis. So, as Cali politely put the point, your post was a stretch.

[cali]

80. lol. my op is polite. it in no way slams either, mm

You posting a patently full-of-baloney claim; I'm shocked! Shocked, I tell you.

[KoKo]

75. The point is: CAP, in Particular, was very good in helping Obama get elected.

However...for the candidates challenging Hillary on the Democratic side...and the supporters of those other Candidates...it is good for us to know that CAP will not be supporting anyone but Hillary. They may support O'Malley because he would be a great VP pick for her but they aren't going to support Bernie Sanders.

So, this is something we Bernie supporters need to be aware of. Since you are no longer a Bernie supporter...it doesn't really concern you. As well it shouldn't.

[MineralMan]

82. Everything about the primary race concerns me.

How odd that you don't understand that. Trust me, I won't be dismissed so easily.

[KoKo]

90. I wasn't dismissing you...

I said that CAP will support Hillary and not Bernie. Since you now support Hillary then CAP's support for Hillary is fine. We Bernie Supporters, however, shouldn't expect support from CAP. There are Bernie supporters who didn't realize that which is why Cali pointed it out.

Why should you feel that was dismissing you or your participation in the Primaries?

[Hissyspit]

83. She said no such thing.

[MineralMan]

87. You're right. She didn't.

Nor did I claim she said that. My comment was about the "revelation." I'm not sure why it matters if a political website supports one or another candidate. It's really a matter of little consequence. So, I read the comments in the thread and added one of my own. I will be continuing to do that for the next several months, as will you, I'm sure.

[cali]

86. this is for all of you in this thread pushing that bull: you know it's bull but you have

no hesitation flinging it. Let me put it this way: Such tactics deserve the opposite of respect.

[MineralMan]

88. I see. So, I shouldn't comment in your threads?

I hope you're not suggesting such a thing. Truly I do.

[cali]

89. no, only someone bound and determined to misread what I wrote, would think that

[ismnotwasm]

67. Yawn

[restorefreedom]

76. it seems to be an epidemic

people or media presenting themselves as neutral but really supporting someone. i remember hearing joan walsh say very dismissively that bernie was not a serious candidate. i found out later that she is a big hillary supporter.

most people have a candidate they like. if they just say so we can get on with the discussion.

except for reuters and ap (as of now anyway), i just assume everyone i read or hear is trying to steer me towards or away from someone.

[JEB]

84. Years ago Think Prgress was a much better site.

[TSIAS]

91. Who operates Hillary is 44?

I remember that website from 2008 and just checked back, and it's still up and running. Figured it would be Hillary is 45 by now. For some reason they seem to support both Clinton and Trump, and despise Obama.

[mmonk]

92. I already knew about the tentacles.

[progressoid]

100. Thanks for the info.

I haven't deliberately gone to Think Progress for years. Media Matters either now that I think about it.

[dreamnightwind]

103. Good to know, thanks

[m-lekktor]

106. I knew about Brock/Media Matters but not "Think Progress".

Brock went from a Clinton hater in the early 90's to a Clinton adorer, right up there with Joe Conason and Gene Lyons.

[brooklynite]

112. Media Matters is not...American Bridge is...

I know David and I've met with his staff (I've also visited their war room). Media Matters is a 501(c)(3) that scrupulously maintains its political independence. American Bridge is a Super PAC that is allowed to play favorites.

[cali]

113. oh for pity's sake. it is run by someone who is actively working for clinton

And sorry, I don't care who you know. I have an aversion to name dropping.

[brooklynite]

114. Even when it's relevant to what the person is doing?

In any event, if you're right, why not pick up the phone and contact the IRS? Report them for violating their tax-exempt status? Or is it just easier to complain from behind your anonymous keyboard?

[cali]

115. yes

I think it's bad form. And I'm sure they have the legal angles well covered. Nor have I accused anyone of any illegality.

I am quite aware of how power functions in this country. I grew up with it.

[NCTraveler]

116. Amazing how far ahead of everyone she is.

I am impressed with her more and more each day. No one is aware of the right wing media more than Hillary. She is so well thought out and her network is one of the most impressive in the world.

[MaggieD]

117. OMG - liberal sites support Dem Front runner

Who woulda thunk it!!

[KoKo]

118. It's important to know who is funding the "Liberal" Site, though.

Then one can decide when they lean liberal and when they have other interests that may not be so liberal...but, in fact have an agenda that is being hidden by their supposed promotion of "Liberal Policy." One can be "Liberal" on a social issues but using that as cover for an entirely different agenda that may have corporate advantage which in fact can hurt liberal equality efforts in other areas like wages, health care, job opportunities (or lack of) and Trade and Environmental Policies.

[MaggieD]

119. Oh please - media matters and think progress

Are not trying to trick you. They are liberals.

Now what about Salon? Their anti-HRC, PRO Bernie shtick is so glaring I can't even read there any longer.

[cali]

121. best. fail, mags. this ain't about support. they are directly involved with her campaign

with no transparency about that.

[MaggieD]

122. Links?

Or just another BS meme to float about Hillary?