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babylonsister

(171,032 posts)
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 10:14 AM Jul 2012

GOP In Disarray: Republican Party Chairman Claims Romney Thinks The Mandate ‘Is A Tax’

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http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/07/03/510236/gop-in-disarray-republican-party-chairman-claims-romney-thinks-the-mandate-is-a-tax/

GOP In Disarray: Republican Party Chairman Claims Romney Thinks The Mandate ‘Is A Tax’

By Igor Volsky on Jul 3, 2012 at 9:24 am


RNC Chairman Reince Priebus disagreed with his party’s presumptive presidential nominee during an appearance on CNN Tuesday morning and said that the individual mandate at the heart of President Obama’s and Mitt Romney’s health care laws is, in fact, a tax. “The Supreme Court has stated that Obamacare is a tax and so since they have ruled that it’s a tax, it is a tax,” Priebus said, contradicting Romney’s top adviser, who on Monday insisted that the governor believes that the mandate is a penalty.

“Our position is the same as Mitt Romney’s position, it’s a tax, that’s the only way the Supreme Court came up with the decision it did, in order to make it constitutional,” the chairman claimed:

BROOKE BALDWIN (HOST): But it sounds like the Romney campaign says it was a penalty. I’m asking you specifically, Republican National Committee Chairman, tax or penalty, which is it?

PRIEBUS: It’s a tax and the reason why it’s a tax is because the Supreme Court number one ruled it was a tax and number two, it’s what Barack Obama’s lawyer argued before the Supreme Court.


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Since Romney’s Massachusetts health reform law penalizes individuals who choose to go without insurance, the Romney campaign has said that the governor disagrees with the Supreme Court’s majority decision and agrees with the dissent, which found the mandate unconstitutional under the commerce clause. The mandate provision has successfully expanded coverage in Massachusetts by encouraging healthier and younger people to obtain insurance (who then avoid paying the penalty).

Republicans in Congress, and even some top Romney surrogates, however, are still holding on to the “tax” talking point. New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R), who may be on Romney’s vice presidential short list, told Fox News’ Fox & Friends Tuesday morning that the mandate is both a “penalty” and a “tax,” something Romney himself has previously claimed.
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GOP In Disarray: Republican Party Chairman Claims Romney Thinks The Mandate ‘Is A Tax’ (Original Post) babylonsister Jul 2012 OP
This is more than we possibly could have hoped for....... yellowcanine Jul 2012 #1
Let's wait and see how this plays out Rosanna Lopez Jul 2012 #9
They are flailing. Ganja Ninja Jul 2012 #2
This seems like a dumb argument to me. bemildred Jul 2012 #3
Republicans want to spin this as a "HUGE TAX INCREASE ON THE MIDDLE CLASS" emulatorloo Jul 2012 #4
Yep. I'm just pointing out the whole argument is contrived. nt bemildred Jul 2012 #5
Nothing unusual for Republicans, I guess emulatorloo Jul 2012 #6
George Stephanopoulos was going crazy over this on Sunday high density Jul 2012 #8
I'm wondering what they call it for those that have insurance or are exempt? LiberalFighter Jul 2012 #7

yellowcanine

(35,693 posts)
1. This is more than we possibly could have hoped for.......
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 10:23 AM
Jul 2012

Even having the healthcare law upheld based on the commerce clause would not be this much fun.

Rosanna Lopez

(308 posts)
9. Let's wait and see how this plays out
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 06:40 PM
Jul 2012

This issue may cause some division in messaging between the RNC/Republican Congress & Team Romney, but that doesn't mean it's going to hurt them that much in the election.

Remember, as we discussed on another thread, because of the 2-party system, Romney is still guaranteed to receive a large chunk of the vote.

Ganja Ninja

(15,953 posts)
2. They are flailing.
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 10:34 AM
Jul 2012

They have their base all spun-up over healthcare and they don't have any argument they can make that won't stick to Romney. They picked the wrong fight and the wrong candidate, or is it the wrong candidate and the wrong fight?

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
3. This seems like a dumb argument to me.
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 10:53 AM
Jul 2012

Being a tax and being a penalty are not mutually exclusive possibilities. One can have both penalty taxes (early IRA withdrawals) and tax penalties (failure to file on time), so it can be both, and in more than one way too.

emulatorloo

(44,063 posts)
4. Republicans want to spin this as a "HUGE TAX INCREASE ON THE MIDDLE CLASS"
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 11:26 AM
Jul 2012

So that's why they are doing this dumb-ass shit. Making material for Karl Rove lie ads.

high density

(13,397 posts)
8. George Stephanopoulos was going crazy over this on Sunday
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 06:30 PM
Jul 2012

I'm really not seeing why people are going to care about the language of tax versus penalty. This is the same crowd that doesn't even know what is in "Obamacare," but they hate it because the TV box said so.

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