2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThose protesters at Bernie's event were OUT OF LINE. PERIOD ! There is NO place for that.
This is not about the honorable and needed cause of criminal justice reform. We ALL agree with that. We ALL agree that black lives matter. It is about their SHAMEFUL tactics and RADICAL thoughts and comments. They are alienating natural allies by choosing to be RADICAL. And THEY are being BIGOTED. Just because people at Sanders' rally took serious issue with their disruption, they immediately called them "racist." THAT comment was what was "racist." Those people at the rally were not criticizing their cause. They were criticizing the shameful BEHAVIOR of those BLM activists. BLM is not helping itself by alienating its natural allies like this. Martin Luther King would be VERY disappointed with them. Some of those people saying CRAP like "Sanders is an old white man who doesn't see our cause..." is RACIST as well. And from what I'm seeing I think most African Americans agree that they are WAY out of line. Bernie Sanders has been involved in the civil rights movement almost his whole life, long before those activists were a thought. He can write a book on it. SHAME ON THEM ! Period !
Yes to criminal justice reform. Yes that black lives and ALL lives matter. But NO to those SHAMEFUL behaviors. And please, NO EXCUSES for it. There are MANY ways for them to be STRONG but HONORABLE in their cause and acting honorably for it as MLK did in his cause.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)Those RADICALS, how dare they! Martin Luther King never disrupted anything! Not like he was ever arrested, or anything like that. Or the OWS activists, they never did anything remotely as disruptive as interrupting an event. Seriously, just wait in line until you're given the chance to speak. All this activism is way out of line.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)No, not like that. And calling the audience "racist" was not what MLK would EVER have done. He was an HONORABLE man who advocated PEACEFUL and NON-VIOLENT protest, not that kind of tone, disruption, and bigotry among natural allies. Their cause is right. Their tactics are wrong. Plain and simple. At least in my view. If others disagree, fine. But I have no doubt they're in the majority.
stone space
(6,498 posts)stone space
(6,498 posts)winter is coming
(11,785 posts)GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)Truprogressive85
(900 posts)"Martin Luther King would be VERY disappointed with them." - You know this because ???
Bernie Sanders has been involved in the civil rights movement almost his who life, long before those activists were a thought. -Tell that to some of grand grandparents who lived it and were in these struggle before any of these candidates oh wait they were lynched, drowned, beaten
Some of us (black folk) are more of Malcolm than Martin but continue tell us how and when we should protest.
Do you want us to tap dance Master?
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)Truprogressive85
(900 posts)Don't tell protesters how and when they should protest
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)I have a right to my opinion just like you do yours. I will most definitely have an opinion on this whether you like it or not. Plenty, most likely the large majority, agree with me. There are WAYS to protest. MLK said there were WAYS to protest. I HAVE protested myself, plenty of times. Acting like that at Bernie's rally was WRONG. If you disagree, fine. I have my opinion and you have yours. And don't go calling people "Master" because they have an opinion on HOW to protest and be HONORABLY strong on an issue. That is, unless MLK was a "Master" too, and Ghandi was a "Master" too because they had such strong opinions on HOW people should best protest.
Truprogressive85
(900 posts)You have the right to your opinion , just as I have mines
Why are MLK and Ghandi are always.. you know what never mind
we disagree and will leave it at that
DrewFlorida
(1,096 posts)I disagree, I support Bernie Sanders,
But Black Lives Do Matter! They are not just a political issue to be dealt with at some time when it's more convenient. This should be one of our most important topics, yet it seems that it could be pushed back another 100 years. I think Bernie sanders should refocus his platform and make Black Lives Matter!
Full disclosure: I'm a mid fifties white/Cherokee male.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)Those tactics were disgusting. It isn't about the cause which we all agree with. It is about the tactics. They were WRONG. And Bernie Sanders has been fighting for minority civil rights before those people were a thought. Sorry, but we just plain disagree.
DrewFlorida
(1,096 posts)I think waiting hundreds of years, watching your family killed because their skin is darker than other peoples, is long enough to wait. I completely agree with their tactics, I completely agree that they should not shut up and wait for politicians to "get around to it".
Maybe you just didn't read my post where I said I disagreed with you!
stone space
(6,498 posts)http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/19/us/king-speeches-never-heard/
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)it should inform what you think you know.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)If America didn't listen to Martin they were going to get more of Malcolm. That's elementary.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)murielm99
(30,730 posts)Just like Code Pink disrupting Obama.
Did you post a similar OP then?
cali
(114,904 posts)ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)And focus on the message. That's what Bernie is doing.
GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)they pretend they are sending.