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RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 08:53 PM Aug 2015

Those protesters at Bernie's event were OUT OF LINE. PERIOD ! There is NO place for that.

This is not about the honorable and needed cause of criminal justice reform. We ALL agree with that. We ALL agree that black lives matter. It is about their SHAMEFUL tactics and RADICAL thoughts and comments. They are alienating natural allies by choosing to be RADICAL. And THEY are being BIGOTED. Just because people at Sanders' rally took serious issue with their disruption, they immediately called them "racist." THAT comment was what was "racist." Those people at the rally were not criticizing their cause. They were criticizing the shameful BEHAVIOR of those BLM activists. BLM is not helping itself by alienating its natural allies like this. Martin Luther King would be VERY disappointed with them. Some of those people saying CRAP like "Sanders is an old white man who doesn't see our cause..." is RACIST as well. And from what I'm seeing I think most African Americans agree that they are WAY out of line. Bernie Sanders has been involved in the civil rights movement almost his whole life, long before those activists were a thought. He can write a book on it. SHAME ON THEM ! Period !

Yes to criminal justice reform. Yes that black lives and ALL lives matter. But NO to those SHAMEFUL behaviors. And please, NO EXCUSES for it. There are MANY ways for them to be STRONG but HONORABLE in their cause and acting honorably for it as MLK did in his cause.

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Those protesters at Bernie's event were OUT OF LINE. PERIOD ! There is NO place for that. (Original Post) RBInMaine Aug 2015 OP
Yeah! Protesters are never supposed to disrupt anything! DanTex Aug 2015 #1
Sitting quietly at a lunch counter, marching across the bridge at selma, etc. were "disruptive"? RBInMaine Aug 2015 #12
Yeah, CDs are disruptive. They're supposed to be. stone space Aug 2015 #21
Do you worry about RADICALS a lot? stone space Aug 2015 #2
Can I offer you a cloud? n/t winter is coming Aug 2015 #3
Despite the smart ass comments, you are correct. GoneFishin Aug 2015 #4
No "smart ass" comments. Thanks for saying I am correct. RBInMaine Aug 2015 #9
Sorry. I was referring to smart ass replies, not your OP. GoneFishin Aug 2015 #25
stop the dramatics Truprogressive85 Aug 2015 #5
"Master"? That is ridiculous. RBInMaine Aug 2015 #7
well dont act like one Truprogressive85 Aug 2015 #10
Is it ok to disagree with you, or you just fundamentally correct? RBInMaine Aug 2015 #11
everyone has one Truprogressive85 Aug 2015 #13
You would be radical if your sons and daughters were being killed because of the color of their skin DrewFlorida Aug 2015 #6
If you read my post I said black lives matter. But those tactics were WRONG. RBInMaine Aug 2015 #8
I read your post, and if you read mine, I told you I disagreed with you. DrewFlorida Aug 2015 #16
Long as we're quoting MLK... stone space Aug 2015 #14
He meant "large" changes in public policy and social attitudes, not BLM tactics. RBInMaine Aug 2015 #15
Please read Letter from Birmingham Jail ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #20
Or DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #23
Martin and Malcolm were the yin and the yang of the civil rights movement. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #18
Absolutely. .n/t 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #22
Yeah, murielm99 Aug 2015 #17
They assaulted Bernie. cali Aug 2015 #19
Ignore the messengers ibegurpard Aug 2015 #24
Those messengers are wrong, but that won't stop me from agreeing with the message that GoneFishin Aug 2015 #26
good ibegurpard Aug 2015 #28
He kicked a lot of ass tonight in LA. I don't think this will be an issue except with fakers. n/t arcane1 Aug 2015 #27
+1 azmom Aug 2015 #29
k/r 840high Aug 2015 #30

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
1. Yeah! Protesters are never supposed to disrupt anything!
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 08:59 PM
Aug 2015

Those RADICALS, how dare they! Martin Luther King never disrupted anything! Not like he was ever arrested, or anything like that. Or the OWS activists, they never did anything remotely as disruptive as interrupting an event. Seriously, just wait in line until you're given the chance to speak. All this activism is way out of line.

 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
12. Sitting quietly at a lunch counter, marching across the bridge at selma, etc. were "disruptive"?
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 09:20 PM
Aug 2015

No, not like that. And calling the audience "racist" was not what MLK would EVER have done. He was an HONORABLE man who advocated PEACEFUL and NON-VIOLENT protest, not that kind of tone, disruption, and bigotry among natural allies. Their cause is right. Their tactics are wrong. Plain and simple. At least in my view. If others disagree, fine. But I have no doubt they're in the majority.

 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
21. Yeah, CDs are disruptive. They're supposed to be.
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 10:51 PM
Aug 2015
Sitting quietly at a lunch counter, marching across the bridge at selma, etc. were "disruptive"?

Truprogressive85

(900 posts)
5. stop the dramatics
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 09:03 PM
Aug 2015

"Martin Luther King would be VERY disappointed with them." - You know this because ???


Bernie Sanders has been involved in the civil rights movement almost his who life, long before those activists were a thought. -Tell that to some of grand grandparents who lived it and were in these struggle before any of these candidates oh wait they were lynched, drowned, beaten


Some of us (black folk) are more of Malcolm than Martin but continue tell us how and when we should protest.

Do you want us to tap dance Master?

 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
11. Is it ok to disagree with you, or you just fundamentally correct?
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 09:16 PM
Aug 2015

I have a right to my opinion just like you do yours. I will most definitely have an opinion on this whether you like it or not. Plenty, most likely the large majority, agree with me. There are WAYS to protest. MLK said there were WAYS to protest. I HAVE protested myself, plenty of times. Acting like that at Bernie's rally was WRONG. If you disagree, fine. I have my opinion and you have yours. And don't go calling people "Master" because they have an opinion on HOW to protest and be HONORABLY strong on an issue. That is, unless MLK was a "Master" too, and Ghandi was a "Master" too because they had such strong opinions on HOW people should best protest.

Truprogressive85

(900 posts)
13. everyone has one
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 09:23 PM
Aug 2015

You have the right to your opinion , just as I have mines

Why are MLK and Ghandi are always.. you know what never mind

we disagree and will leave it at that

DrewFlorida

(1,096 posts)
6. You would be radical if your sons and daughters were being killed because of the color of their skin
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 09:08 PM
Aug 2015

I disagree, I support Bernie Sanders,
But Black Lives Do Matter! They are not just a political issue to be dealt with at some time when it's more convenient. This should be one of our most important topics, yet it seems that it could be pushed back another 100 years. I think Bernie sanders should refocus his platform and make Black Lives Matter!

Full disclosure: I'm a mid fifties white/Cherokee male.

 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
8. If you read my post I said black lives matter. But those tactics were WRONG.
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 09:10 PM
Aug 2015

Those tactics were disgusting. It isn't about the cause which we all agree with. It is about the tactics. They were WRONG. And Bernie Sanders has been fighting for minority civil rights before those people were a thought. Sorry, but we just plain disagree.

DrewFlorida

(1,096 posts)
16. I read your post, and if you read mine, I told you I disagreed with you.
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 10:07 PM
Aug 2015

I think waiting hundreds of years, watching your family killed because their skin is darker than other peoples, is long enough to wait. I completely agree with their tactics, I completely agree that they should not shut up and wait for politicians to "get around to it".

Maybe you just didn't read my post where I said I disagreed with you!

 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
14. Long as we're quoting MLK...
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 09:29 PM
Aug 2015
"White Americans must recognize that justice for black people cannot be achieved without radical changes in the structure of our society. The comfortable, entrenched, the privileged cannot continue to tremble at the prospect of change of the status quo. ... This is a multiracial nation where all groups are dependent on each other. ... There is no separate white path to power and fulfillment, short of social disaster, that does not share power with black aspirations for freedom and human dignity."


http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/19/us/king-speeches-never-heard/

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
18. Martin and Malcolm were the yin and the yang of the civil rights movement.
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 10:41 PM
Aug 2015

If America didn't listen to Martin they were going to get more of Malcolm. That's elementary.

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
26. Those messengers are wrong, but that won't stop me from agreeing with the message that
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 11:42 PM
Aug 2015

they pretend they are sending.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
27. He kicked a lot of ass tonight in LA. I don't think this will be an issue except with fakers. n/t
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 11:51 PM
Aug 2015
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