Is Counter Intelligence Infilitrating BlackLivesMatter, Other Agencies Or Campaigns?

[DhhD]

http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/COINTELPRO/cointelpro-methods.html

http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture/2015/01/_black_panthers_vanguard_of_a_revolution_chronicles_the_mission_of_the_revolution.html?wpisrc=topstories

http://www.chomsky.info/articles/199909--.htm


Right Wing organizations would certainly not like the people and the people in power of BlackLivesMatter and the civil rights actions of the Sanders, and his campaign. Hope that no infiltration of counter thesis happens to the Sander's campaign or BlackLivesMatter.

[KittyWampus]

1. Well, Sanders ran to preemptively siphon votes from the one real Progressive DEMOCRAT

Everyone knew O'Malley was entering the race.

Sanders has no realistic chance of winning, so why else is he running but to prevent O'Malley from gaining traction?

See how these stupid conspiracy theories work?

[cali]

11. that's a silly comparison. it's a fact that there's been infiltration of groups

from both governmental and non-governmental groups. Not saying it had happened with BLM, not it's not ridiculous to speculate, whereas your comments about Bernie, written to illustrate a ct are easily blown out of the water.

[PatrickforO]

2. Your damned right it is. That, my friend, is a given.

Anytime any group of people ever gets together and begins asking for policies that will give them a better life, you can COUNT on them being infiltrated by government spies and provocateurs. Most times nothing comes from it, but if the movement starts looking like it will be powerful, expect its leaders to be tarred with baseless accusations, and if that doesn't work, then the provocateurs will move forward with violence so that violent police intervention is justified.

That's how it works.

[DhhD]

7. Government spies, no I am thinking domestic infiltration. They may be using the women's

movement, for cover as they may have found a weak spot in those at the top of the BlackLivesMatter, organization. All of us for democracy, are for the cause of shutting down inequality for all Americans. Left wing volunteers want to see injustice disappear, not lag on.

[joshcryer]

3. If true why haven't BLM leaders denounced the actions?

I mean one of the founders was even at the SC disruption (where O'Malley and Sanders were berated unmercifully).

[DhhD]

8. BLM Leaders were the ones that took over the rally. Please feel free to look into what else

these leaders are doing with regard to working with other organizations that work to stop injustice and the loss or democracy.

[joshcryer]

9. I don't know what you are saying.

There has been no denouncement from BLM leaders on the Seattle actions.

[zazen]

4. BLM and Sanders/anti-capitalism movements are two most powerful threats to status quo in U.S.

People are in a state of shock and denial about climate change. The immediacy of profound racism in the criminal justice system and economic ruin has much more potential to get people out onto the streets, now.

This (failed) attempt to have African Americans arrested on stage and hauled off while Sanders was speaking would have, rather conveniently, harmed both causes and, most importantly, is already driving a wedge between these two causes, which are both really part of the same greater cause of addressing profound inequalities.

I don't want to be paranoid and there's Occam's Razor, yada yada yada, but I'd expect to see actual dirty tricks in the future even if this one wasn't directly orchestrated by an oligarch's "communications consulting" firm.

[ananda]

5. I guess Sanders would be a problem for the corporate establishment.

And that establishment would want to keep people divided and
especially divide the Black vote or else keep them from voting.

Why anyone would buy into this is beyond me, but it happens.

In the face of such extreme economic oppression and institutional
violence, what are people going to do? The only real answer is to
organize and force change, and that is what BLM SHOULD be doing.

What they're actually doing is playing out some kind of wish to be
relevant at the expense of their allies -- in other words, playing into
the hands of the enemy as though they identify with it.

That tells me that the oppression is so strong and deeply felt that
the oppressed feel as though they have to help or identify with the
oppressors. It's like an abuse syndrome -- if I can just change myself
in just the right way, they'll like me and accept me and I'll make it.

For this, I guess the rightwing sets up just enough tokens to make it
look as though this could really happen... even though those tokens
are more like weird zombie bots than real people: Condoleeza Rice,
Colin Powell, Clarence Thomas, Michael Steele, Ben Carson, and that
tea party guy I can't remember his name.

When a POC identifies with Palin, that is the abuse syndrome on
steroids. And it's just so sad because we're all just humans together
in this trying to figure out a decent way to live for everyone.

[DhhD]

6. I would like to hear from Chomsky again on current issues of domestic counterintelligence. n/t

[ananda]

10. Me too!

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