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Thu Jun 28, 2012, 08:21 PM

Do You Think Mitt Will Refuse to Debate Obama?

I wonder about it for a number of reasons. First, he only seems to give interviews in Mitt-friendly environments -- Fox News, for example. He is rarely seen on any Sunday talk show, not that they aren't Mitt-friendly. But any interviewer who tries to pierce his cloud of noncommittal bullshit he avoids like the plague. The Presidential debates aren't Republican primary debates -- people will notice his lack of specificity.

He seems to be making Obamacare a signature issue to crank up the base. Obama will, no doubt, remind folks during the debates that the ACA is a direct descendent of Mitt's Massachusetts health care program. In fact, Romney's advisors for the program were called in by the Administration on consult. I don't think Mitt wants to ride that bus.

So, I wonder, how would he get out of doing the debates? Liberal media, gotcha questions, bypass the "filter"? And if he tried this stunt, would he pay at the ballot box? Interesting.

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Reply Do You Think Mitt Will Refuse to Debate Obama? (Original post)
charlyvi Jun 2012 OP
liberal N proud Jun 2012 #1
charlyvi Jun 2012 #2
SoutherDem Jun 2012 #3
charlyvi Jun 2012 #7
SoutherDem Jun 2012 #13
TheCowsCameHome Jun 2012 #4
Pisces Jun 2012 #5
Rosanna Lopez Jun 2012 #6
davidpdx Jun 2012 #9
charlyvi Jun 2012 #10
rurallib Jun 2012 #21
davidpdx Jun 2012 #8
charlyvi Jun 2012 #11
avebury Jun 2012 #12
charlyvi Jun 2012 #14
SoutherDem Jun 2012 #16
charlyvi Jun 2012 #18
Arkana Jul 2012 #37
gkhouston Jun 2012 #15
RKP5637 Jun 2012 #17
Swede Atlanta Jun 2012 #19
charlyvi Jun 2012 #20
former9thward Jun 2012 #24
Jennicut Jun 2012 #22
former9thward Jun 2012 #23
bowens43 Jun 2012 #25
olkaz Jun 2012 #26
kestrel91316 Jun 2012 #27
WI_DEM Jun 2012 #28
Rhiannon12866 Jun 2012 #29
Arkana Jun 2012 #30
Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2012 #31
Raven Jun 2012 #32
Sania Haxan Jun 2012 #33
Kteachums Jun 2012 #34
HopeHoops Jun 2012 #35
onenote Jun 2012 #36
littlewolf Jul 2012 #38
magical thyme Jul 2012 #40
magical thyme Jul 2012 #39
Lil Missy Jul 2012 #41
Lucy Goosey Jul 2012 #42

Response to charlyvi (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 08:25 PM

1. I am sure he knows the President would make a fool of him.

I think the Romney team will try to avoid a debate. They might be pressured into one debate, get beaten badly and then want another to try and make a better show.

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Response to liberal N proud (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 08:28 PM

2. That's why I wonder if he would even risk a first one.

And if he doesn't, would it hurt him. I'm sure the base would love it, but how much would it hurt him with everyone else?

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Response to charlyvi (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 08:30 PM

3. I don't think he could get away with no debates

But, I do think he could set so many rules and restrictions they will be worthless.

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Response to SoutherDem (Reply #3)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 08:33 PM

7. I wouldn't think so either.

But so far he's gotten away with no-answer answers, a low, low profile on any news shows, and very few mainstream rebuttals to the bullshit he spews. Skipping the debates seems to be in line with his campaign strategy.

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Response to charlyvi (Reply #7)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 08:41 PM

13. I will admit he is the king of the non answer answer

I could see his campaign set up totally unacceptable rules to which Obama would all but be forced to turn down. Then Romney say I offered he didn't want to debate.

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Response to charlyvi (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 08:30 PM

4. He'd love to avoid it...

....but he can't.

He's so screwn!?!?!?!!

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Response to charlyvi (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 08:31 PM

5. If he avoids the debates he will be look like a coward, afraid of Pres. Obama. The media already has

the debates scheduled and I believe it is mandatory. Pres. Obama could go on by himself and have the entire time to sell
his platform to the American people.

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Response to charlyvi (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 08:32 PM

6. Romney cannot refuse

NO.

He can't avoid the Presidential Debates. That would be conceding the election to Obama. How could that not be fatal? Has there ever been a Presidential nominee in modern times who has done so? I can't think of one.

If you are afraid to debate, it shows you are not competent to govern, and the American people would few it as a sign of weakness, evasion and deception.

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Response to Rosanna Lopez (Reply #6)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 08:35 PM

9. Damn, that's better put then I said

Welcome to DU!

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Response to Rosanna Lopez (Reply #6)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 08:37 PM

10. Exactly

But there is so much he's doing that I thought would have been fatal months ago. I think he'll try his best to make the debates seem liberally biased, flawed, undemocratic events. He'll try to make himself look like a hero by losing them. Very Rovian.

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Response to Rosanna Lopez (Reply #6)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 09:26 PM

21. Normally Iwould agree with you, but Romney

is a bullies bully. he has broken all sorts of conventions so far.
So avoiding the debate would be nothing to him
And you know the media will support him.

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Response to charlyvi (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 08:34 PM

8. I think Romney pretty much has to take the chance in order to win

(I'm not saying he will, but if he wanted to). Not taking on the President Obama head to head would make him look like an A-#1 wussy. That being said, Romney has pretty much had the nomination locked up for awhile so I'd guess he is taking some time to do debate prep already. I would just hope they do a sweep for ear pieces before the debate to make sure Romney isn't wearing one.

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Response to davidpdx (Reply #8)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 08:37 PM

11. Bwa ha ha

Memories of Shrub.

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Response to charlyvi (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 08:39 PM

12. The bar of expectation would be set so low for Romney

that it might not take much for the Republicans to spin a debate as a victory for Romney.

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Response to avebury (Reply #12)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 08:41 PM

14. Like they did with Palin. n/t

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Response to avebury (Reply #12)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 08:44 PM

16. Good point.

Simply showing up is all would be expected of him. If he managed to not make himself sound like a arrogant rich egotistical jerk then he would exceed expectations.

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Response to SoutherDem (Reply #16)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 08:49 PM

18. My point is, though,

I don't think there is any way possible he can do that. He might think avoiding the whole debate thing the lesser risk.

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Response to avebury (Reply #12)

Mon Jul 2, 2012, 05:24 PM

37. Not necessarily. Romney's not a moron, so the bar is a bit higher.

Everyone expects the so-called "CEO candidate" to outperform the guy who was "only" a community organizer and has "only" been President of the United States for four years.

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Response to charlyvi (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 08:43 PM

15. Gawd, I hope not. It'll be the entertainment event of the year.

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Response to charlyvi (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 08:49 PM

17. Mitt will declare himself president in Nov. and pull out check receipts

to show he was the high bidder.

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Response to charlyvi (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 08:52 PM

19. He will agree to debates......

But he will take a lesson from Scott "Playgirl" Brown of Massachusetts in setting very strict requirements. I can only imagine what they might be. He will try to find venues and set rules on questions that favor him.

1. 80% of the audience must be card-carrrying fascists and 100% of the questions must be pre-vetted by the RMoney Office of Disinformation at least 60 days in advance.

2. Obama must be in the shadows and Fox News will be the only venue to broadcast. Obama must agree that Fox can put horns and other things on the image of Obama. Further Fox must be allowed to give Obama a devil-like voice while a choir of Republican cherubs sing heavenly music.

I mean seriously. I wouldn't put anything past this stuffed shirt. He is a nothing. He is a man made solely by his father's wealth and his penchant for harming others.

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Response to Swede Atlanta (Reply #19)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 08:55 PM

20. That could very well be his out.

No self-respecting network would agree. I don't think even Fox would agree. So he could shift the responsibility for no debates onto the networks and the Obama people, who could not agree to his demands either.

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Response to Swede Atlanta (Reply #19)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 10:01 PM

24. The campaigns have already agreed on the debates and the venues.

They are all universities so you can calm down. See post #23.

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Response to charlyvi (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 09:36 PM

22. No, the debates are like a national tradition and to not do them would make him look weak.

He may not want to debate Obama but if you run for President the debates are a given.

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Response to charlyvi (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 09:58 PM

23. The campaigns have already agreed on the debates.

Oct 3 Denver
Oct 16 Hempstead, NY
Oct 22 Boca Raton, FL
VP debate Oct 11 Danville, Kentucky

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Response to charlyvi (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 10:32 PM

25. no.

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Response to charlyvi (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 10:44 PM

26. Absolutely not.

Come on now.

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Response to charlyvi (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 11:07 PM

27. He'll try. He'll have to rethink that.

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Response to charlyvi (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 03:35 AM

28. If he wants to guarantee losing the election he will. Debates are now the norm and have been since

1976--even St. Ronnie debated Mondale twice.

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Response to charlyvi (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 04:58 AM

29. If he's smart... So I guess not. ;)

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Response to charlyvi (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 08:13 AM

30. No. Not in the age of 3 debates/cycle.

He'd be laughed at and even those on the far right are smart enough to know this.

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Response to charlyvi (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 08:47 AM

31. I can't see how he could squirm out of the debates

It's pretty much demanded of Presidential candidates (and rightfully so). I'm not particularly worried about how well President Obama will perform. He's got a 4-year record of positive accomplishments to tout and Romney has stumbled continuously in this campaign so far and given President Obama so much fodder to exploit. The pundits will certainly try to spin it every which way they can in Romney's favor but the public, at least in 2008, always seemed to give the edge to President Obama in every single debate with John McCain despite the pundits trying to spin it in McCain's favor.

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Response to charlyvi (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 10:10 AM

32. Yes, I do. No amount of

debate preparation will help him. His handlers will decide that the harm done to his chances by not debating will be less than the harm done to him by his debate performance. He is bad enough "off script" but he'll have a terrible time justifing his position on the issues.

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Response to charlyvi (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 11:10 AM

33. yes i know

 

Even in the US, in May, this year, the Pentagon has been under orders to cut spending by $487 billion from projected defense over the next decade as the Obama Administration tries to rein in its trillion-dollar deficit.

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Response to charlyvi (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 11:13 AM

34. I am sure they will only ask questions that Mitt has rehearsed!

Mitt is such a flip flopper can you imagine him in a debate? He is probably having to practice real hard. Who knows what he will say? President Obama will make him look like mashed potatoes no matter what the subject. I wonder if the debate questions will be fair? Money talks and I would be willing to bet the Republicans will try to buy off all the newspeople who are commentators after the debates. I hope money doesn't buy the debates!

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Response to charlyvi (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 11:55 AM

35. I'd say go ahead with it anyway - with just Obama. Mitt can chose not to speak.

 

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Response to charlyvi (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 12:59 PM

36. There is zero chance of that happening.

None. Nada. Zilch. Zip.

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Response to charlyvi (Original post)

Mon Jul 2, 2012, 05:36 PM

38. actually debates really don't change peoples minds

by time folks get thru the primary system ...
most people know where both
candidates stand ....

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Response to littlewolf (Reply #38)

Mon Jul 2, 2012, 05:51 PM

40. no, but a sufficiently awful performance

could motivate people to stay home...

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Response to charlyvi (Original post)

Mon Jul 2, 2012, 05:50 PM

39. if he can't face Obama, how is he going to face Putin? Wen Jiabao? Kim Jong II?

no way he can avoid the debates. Even to try would be to concede.

On the other hand, I hope he pulls a W with an earpiece. And somebody, somewhere in the building has an electronic gadget to interfere. The comedy potential is priceless.

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Response to charlyvi (Original post)

Tue Jul 3, 2012, 01:26 AM

41. He will say he will, but then say he didn't say that. n/t

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Response to charlyvi (Original post)

Tue Jul 3, 2012, 01:21 PM

42. I don't think Mitt is self aware enough.

I doubt that Mitt has enough self-awareness to know that President Obama will make him look like an idiot. I don't think Mitt has any idea that he (Mitt) has regularly made himself look like an idiot.

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