BlackLivesMatter was given million$ by Soros after Ferguson. soros=Hillary Benefactor.

[peacebird]

Begs the question: are BLM only targetting Bernie to swiftboat him for hillary?

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[Metric System]

1. Well this devolved rather fast.

[peacebird]

2. Has Hillary been targetted by BLM? No. Is Soros her supporter, Yes. Is he funding BLM, Yes.

It begs the question, why is only Bernie getting attacked?

BlackLivesMatter is looking more and more like a partisan Swiftboat group

[mcar]

6. Logic 101 again

[Andy823]

11. More like

Paranoia 101. Blaming Clinton for everything is really getting old!

[mcar]

28. And Soros!

I don't know where I am anymore.

[workinclasszero]

76. Freak republic is what it's becoming

Attacking George Soros and Hillary, just damn!

I'm sure all democratic PoC will be insensed to know that middle class white democrats think that BLM is just a front to get Hillary the nomination and the fact that their sons and daughters are being murdered by fascist military police forces all over America on a daily basis means NOTHING to Bernie backers!

No democrat has a chance of winning the white house without having the Obama coalition behind them 100 percent.

Belittling the fears and concerns of a huge part of that coalition will get a person a sure loss on election day and deliver this country into the hands of the Koch bros and their republican puppets.

These attacks on fellow democratic voters need to stop!

[mcar]

77. And that PoC must be guided by white people

Obviously can't think for themselves.

[Adrahil]

68. You need to learn the difference between logic and innuendo... nt

[George II]

36. We can try a connection equally insane (and equally illogical) - I'm not suggesting this, just...

....a hypothetical to show how ludicrous the OP is.

Jerry Greenfield gave money to Sanders.
Jerry Greenfield's foundation gave money to backpack programs in the Boston area.

Back packs were used in the Boston Marathon bombing.

Any connections?

[Uncle Joe]

84. Did the backpacks arm and blow themselves up? n/t

[SonderWoman]

42. Hillary is 40 points ahead in the polls, you really think she would pull this?

[Sheepshank]

71. So fucking typical

And likely the very reason Bernie is targeted. His supporters are completely tone deaf and misdirect and divert every time BLM tries to message. BLM are trying desperately to get their message out, and all you get out of it is political expediency and jockeying.

[riversedge]

81. Read this from Snopes as to why Soros gave Fergeson groups grant $$

Claim: George Soros donated $33 million to fund rioting Ferguson protest groups.

Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/sorosferguson.asp#hdXFk9vVvKxr4puj.99




TRUE: A grantmaking network founded by George Soros provided funding to some groups that engaged in Ferguson-related protest activities.


FALSE: George Soros gave money to various groups for the express purpose of promoting Ferguson-related protests and riots.

image:

Examples:
Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/sorosferguson.asp#hdXFk9vVvKxr4puj.99

[DemocratSinceBirth]

3. George Soros has made some strange enemies

[Uncle Joe]

85. That's surprising coming from a self described "socialist" like Glenn Beck

one would think that Beck would appreciate Soro's relatively enlightened views on wealth distribution?

[Agschmid]

10. Record time I'd say.

[winter is coming]

5. Possible, but too soon to say. n/t

[Starry Messenger]

7. Fucking dumb theory.

[Number23]

62. This forum needs to be burned to the ground and the earth salted in its wake

There is so much frenzied stupidity on this web site today it's unreal. These people are simply beyond ridiculous.

[Kurska]

67. Then leave

No one is forcing you to post here with a gun to your head.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

69. Why don't you make her leave?

"Then leave..."

Why don't you make her leave?

[Kurska]

73. I'm not making anyone do anyting

If they really do view du as nothing but a hive of scum and idiots. If it isn't up to their standards, why on earth are they here?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

74. If they really do view du as nothing but a hive of scum and idiots.

"If they really do view du as nothing but a hive of scum and idiots..."

To lift them up?

[Number23]

80. And no one is forcing you to make such a colossal spectacle of yourself in this thread either

And yet, here you are...

[Starry Messenger]

72. Thus proving the point of the BLM protest.

I'd say they absolutely nailed the inch-deep liberalism of some Bernie supporters.

[dsc]

8. yes we all know that blacks are just puppets of wealthy jews

your op is disgusting.

[Cha]

9. Yes it is disgusting but not surprising.

[Andy823]

14. I agree Cha

Seems like whenever something goes wrong a certain group of Bernie supporters jump in and make all kinds of crazy accusations, and blame it all on Hillary. It really gets old, and it's usually the same posters over and over coming up with these conspiracy theories. Kind of like they used to do to president Obama!

[NanceGreggs]

18. And if it's not Hillary's fault ...

... it's Bill's fault, or Obama's fault, or the media's fault, or the DNC's fault, or the low-info voters' fault, or ...

In short, BS is not responsible for anything - because the entire world is conspiring against him.

[Andy823]

39. Exactly! nt

[FloridaBlues]

38. Some people are going off the rails here blaming Hillary about this issue.

[Number23]

65. They don't just blame Hillary. That would be fine with me. What really boggles my mind is how easily

and how quickly the RACISM burbles out of these people's mouths/fingers the second ANY FUCKING THING to do with #BLM is involved.

This same crowd that howled at the moon and brought themselves to all kinds of special feelings over OWS have accused #BLM of every damn thing under the sun. Of being "Koch funded right wingers," of being "dolts" of being "corrupt," "stupid," "not speaking for their community" and every other racially charged thing they can think of.

So it's okay for white guys to sit in a park, shut down Wall Street, bang drums and accomplish nothing but God help these unruly Negroes who dare to talk over their man! About people being LITERALLY murdered.

If all they did was blame Hillary, I probably wouldn't care that much. She is a politician and can take it. But what gets me is the RACISM that spews out of these people every chance they get. To call them disgusting is an understatement of epic proportions.

[Starry Messenger]

12. They've been all over twitter with it too.

I'm screencapping this time.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

34. The argument

The argument that African Americans and other minorities are tools of wealthy Jews is a classic anti semitic trope. On far right wing sites the election of Barack Obama was met with a yawn as he was portrayed as the puppet of wealthy Jews and his many Jewish supporters, some in high places, were held out as proof.

We always have to be vigilant against racism, anti-semitism, and nativism because at the end of the day they are cousins in hate.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

13. You might want to rephrase it lest you get a hide...

You might want to rephrase it lest you get a hide but that was the viewpoint that George Lincoln Rockwell, American Nazi Party founder, espoused in his famous Playboy interview with Alex Haley.

It's a fascinating interview:


https://archive.org/stream/1966PlayboyInterview/MicrosoftWord-Document1#page/n9/mode/2up



Sadly, some of the themes Rockwell propagated lives on.

[dsc]

15. If I get a hide then so be it

that is exactly what the OP is saying and the OP needs to be called on his or her despicable post.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

21. I thought Soros was Glenn Beck and the right's boogeyman.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros_conspiracy_theories

[dsc]

24. yeah he is

but clenis and whatever is now the order of the day.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

25. Poor George. I will still take his money...

eom

[Behind the Aegis]

66. ...and all the while people are missing the profound irony of it.

This has been surreal.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

70. Yes, Jews manipulating African Americans is a classic anti semitic trope.

eom

[NanceGreggs]

16. Does DU currently have ...

... a Totally Whacked-Out, Bat-Shit Crazy Conspiracy Group?

I only ask because if it does, this should have been posted there.

[brooklynite]

20. Yes, it's called CREATIVE SPECULATION

but of course, conspiracy theories about Hillary Clinton are all true...

[NanceGreggs]

30. No, wrong group.

There is nothing "creative" about this kind of speculation. It's based on old-school RW tactics that have been in play for decades.

The irony here is that BS supporters are stating, without a scintilla of factual support, that HRC is behind the BLM protesters - but Bernie is the one being "swift-boated".

Looks to me like Hillary is the one being swift-boated by the BS crew, being accused of things she has absolutely nothing to do with on a regular basis.

For people who allegedly believe that Bernie will be the next president, they sure come up with a lot of excuses for why he isn't getting any traction with the vast majority of Democrats. And it's always everyone else's fault - not his.

[George II]

22. DU does, under a different name - I'd get a hide if I directed you there!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

26. Amen

eom

[NanceGreggs]

31. No problemo, George II!!!

I don't need any directions - in fact, no one here does. We ALL know where to find THAT group!

[Andy823]

43. Yep

The same crowd the rec'd up the post calling the president a f' ing POSUCS. The same group that has been going after president Obama from pretty much day one. Now they have taken over the Bernie sanders group. They really love to stir things up, as you can see by the numerous threads going now on this board.

[SonderWoman]

17. Wow. This place is off the rails.

[NanceGreggs]

32. A belated welcome to DU, SonderWoman!

It's been off the rails for a while now - so fasten your seatbelt, you're in for a very bumpy ride!

[George II]

19. Inane premise making that connection. Does NOT "beg the question".

[SidDithers]

23. Benghazi!...

Sid

[okasha]

51. Vince Foster!

[sadoldgirl]

27. It seems a bit suspicious, but to

tell the truth, there are lots among the PTB, who want
Bernie to get lost.

However, I wait to see at what point HRC will be
confronted by BLM in a similar way. After all, even
after a while she must somehow have rallies or not?

[nolabear]

29. OFFS.

I am just gobsmacked by this place sometimes.

[kwassa]

33. Got any facts to support your thesis? No?

[BlueJazz]

35. If it has to do with politics, nothing truly surprises me anymore...

[MisterP]

37. the natural factionalism in any movement can easily explain what's going on without any

money having to change hands

but what's common is a rhetoric you can hear on DU and Twitter and Tumblr--that who/what you are isn't just important, but the primary determinant of your politics, economics, etc.; race and gender aren't constantly-negotiated dimensions to life but a permanent label--or brand, perhaps

therefore Clinton can be "the minority candidate" because she's female while setting up regimes and starting wars that kill plenty of women and POC and gays, and how she can specifically be "the Black candidate" despite the welfare reform and parties with redliners and war and neoliberalism and CCA and the "all lives matter"

that's why they can say "Sanders has a race problem" without pointing to any of his policies or his opponents' (and of course if you demur that's just magically proving their point you lefty white supremacist!)

now there's definitely a "Portlandia" effect with some liberals, damning the South for segregationism but carefully avoiding anyone who fails the paper-bag test: but these are "champagne Dems" rather than the social democrats since socdems always read--in fact the Portlandia types are likeliest to blindly vote Clinton because she's a Dem and the Dems are the party that's supposed to not be the party of war and gay-bashing; it's in fact Soros himself that best represents this Bono-loving bluewashed billionaire's club, trying to crush Venezuela in the name of human rights and open societies, and his typically-clean foundations are paid with a billion he made from crashing the ruble and another bil from tanking the pound

[still_one]

40. Can you supply a link where it shows Soros gave a million dollars to BLM? The only references I

see to that are from sources like the Washington Times, and other right wing sites

[George II]

44. Just send an email to Karl Rove, he'll show you.

[peacebird]

45. UKs Daily Mail, don't know what it's political bent is....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2913625/Billionaire-George-Soros-spent-33MILLION-bankrolling-Ferguson-demonstrators-create-echo-chamber-drive-national-protests.html

[emulatorloo]

78. Daily Mail = right-wing lie machine.

[peacebird]

79. Ah, thank you. I didn't know that.

[peacebird]

46. Snopes gives it a mixture, part true

http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/sorosferguson.asp

image:

TRUE: A grantmaking network founded by George Soros provided funding to some groups that engaged in Ferguson-related protest activities.

Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/sorosferguson.asp#vq1tCzFo8S63uA2C.99

[still_one]

50. That what I am seeing, but it is not saying BLM. However, this "guilt by association" does

very little, unless of course there is an actual proof that Hillary is involved

This is similar to those making false extrapolations on Bernie with his upcoming speech at Liberty College, or guns etc. there is nothing there

I understand this is tit for tat, but I think it is far better for all side to debate the issues, unless as I said there is actual evidence of dirty tricks.

Another point, by BLM coming out to apologize sure implies that BLM thinks it should not have been done in a rally for Medicare no Social Security

[Daniel537]

41. The fact that they only target one campaign speaks for itself. n/t

[ismnotwasm]

47. Yawn.

[Splinter Cell]

48. Well....

Duh.

[onehandle]

49. This thread is in a nutshell the very definition of DU in 2015.

Bravo.

[okasha]

53. Emphasis on the NUT.

[TNProfessor]

52. stupid shit nt

[sufrommich]

54. The tone deafness of Bernie's supporters is what is

going to kill his campaign. I wouldn't be at all surprised if BLM targets Sanders campaign events just because if exposes some pretty ugly shit.

[GoneFishin]

55. Don't know why BLM chose HRC, but they have. It's campaign season and they are using campaign

tactics. It's not complicated.

[peacebird]

56. $oro$ money perhap$?

[Metric System]

60. No, just a REALLY stupid thread and theory. Thank you for contributing to the decline of DU.

[GoneFishin]

61. However they made their decision, it is clear that they want to embarrass Bernie.

Meanwhile they have squandered a lot of good will for the cause.

[bbgrunt]

57. this whole thing was so hamhanded that it is bound

to tar Hillary too. Win-Win for the Koch crowd. just sayin'

[Dr Hobbitstein]

58. George Soros. Boogeyman of the far left and far right.

[NYC Liberal]

59. This is a really disgusting post. Ugly stuff.

[MFrohike]

63. Wow

I don't go for these much at all, but sometimes it's all I can say : .

[snot]

82. Let's see them protest at Hillary's next rally,

if/when she has one.

[Beacool]

86. I thought that only the Freepers wore their tin foil hats firmly in place.

I guess I was wrong.




crazy:

[Number23]

87. Is it too late to vote?

[quakerboy]

88. Proof?

I support Bernies policies, and I do not support Hillary. But I have a hard time believing that BLM is organized enough to be fully co-opted in this way. Parts of it, sure. But the whole thing, no.