Tue Jun 19, 2012, 10:02 AM

cbrer (1,831 posts)

Condi Rice has her running shoes on

Too early to say.

And as a good Mormon, selecting a female would be...difficult... in some ways.

Progressive Republicans? Don't hold your breath.

www.politico.com/news/stories/0412/75341.html

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Condi Rice has her running shoes on (Original post)	cbrer	Jun 2012	OP
I may be wrong, but doubt she will do it.	WI_DEM	Jun 2012	#1
I doubt that the 911 war criminal will raise her head for this one.	peace13	Jun 2012	#2
I don't think he can afford ...	GeorgeGist	Jun 2012	#3
In what universe is she a "progressive Republican"? Who's saying THAT?	Proud Liberal Dem	Jun 2012	#4
One must look beyond	cbrer	Jun 2012	#5
Having a black female on the ticket I suppose would be rather progressive for the GOP	Proud Liberal Dem	Jun 2012	#9
No way to know	cbrer	Jun 2012	#11
Kind of strange	Proud Liberal Dem	Jun 2012	#13
I believe they're examining every angle	cbrer	Jun 2012	#15
Of course they will	Proud Liberal Dem	Jun 2012	#17
Not going to happen. She has that "Obama problem" - she's black.	HopeHoops	Jun 2012	#6
Will his "Big Business" bloc	cbrer	Jun 2012	#8
We need a political mongoose.	HopeHoops	Jun 2012	#12
I believe we've got one	cbrer	Jun 2012	#16
He will probably pick a quiet (near apolitical) republican.	MatthewStLouis	Jun 2012	#7
Powell won't do it.	cbrer	Jun 2012	#10
He voted for Obama last time (which should be enough to sink him)	Proud Liberal Dem	Jun 2012	#14
she won't do it.	hrmjustin	Jun 2012	#18
I think Condi would do it	Happydayz	Jun 2012	#19
That poll was 2 months ago; since then, she's said she won't be his VP candidate	muriel_volestrangler	Jun 2012	#20
You're probably right	cbrer	Jun 2012	#21
"Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US"	beac	Jun 2012	#22
There seems to be an inverse relationship	cbrer	Jun 2012	#23

Response to cbrer (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 10:36 AM

WI_DEM (32,531 posts)

1. I may be wrong, but doubt she will do it.

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Response to cbrer (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 10:55 AM

peace13 (8,477 posts)

2. I doubt that the 911 war criminal will raise her head for this one.

She should thank her lucky stars that she isn't in jail right now. If she joins Romney that will give us one more shot at scrutinizing her judgment.

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Response to cbrer (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 11:33 AM

GeorgeGist (9,780 posts)

3. I don't think he can afford ...

to risk losing the racist vote.

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Response to cbrer (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 12:11 PM

Proud Liberal Dem (11,838 posts)

4. In what universe is she a "progressive Republican"? Who's saying THAT?

If Romney wants to go there, all the race-/gender-card playing spin won't change the fact that 9/11 happened on her watch as NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR and she apparently failed to even anticipate the possibility of what happened.

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Reply #4)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 12:40 PM

cbrer (1,831 posts)

5. One must look beyond

Or perhaps focus ones mind more narrowly to identify the narrative that being black, and being female, means being progressive in some circles. A feature that M Romney may find attractive.

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Response to cbrer (Reply #5)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 12:47 PM

Proud Liberal Dem (11,838 posts)

9. Having a black female on the ticket I suppose would be rather progressive for the GOP

I don't know how much the teabagger base would like it however, given their (at least somewhat) racist attitudes regarding President Obama. Maybe because she is Republican it won't matter to them but what putting an incompetent/failed former George W. Bush (mis-)administration figure on the ballot in the second slot will achieve in terms of the election I have no idea.

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Reply #9)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 01:01 PM

cbrer (1,831 posts)

11. No way to know

Sometimes it seems like appearances are everything to that band of knuckleheads. Other times like they'll break their necks trying to pander to both ends of their constituencies. Ignorant rednecks AND Corporate honchos. I guess time will tell.

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Response to cbrer (Reply #11)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 01:32 PM

Proud Liberal Dem (11,838 posts)

13. Kind of strange

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that a group of people whom routinely decry "identity politics" practice it in spades if they think that it will win them favor with a particular demographic (i.e. female, hispanic, black, etc.)- solely on the basis of WHO they are, not on what their policies are, would be, etc.

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Reply #13)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 01:44 PM

cbrer (1,831 posts)

15. I believe they're examining every angle

And if simple hypocrisy will get them votes, then they will do it in a New York minute.

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Response to cbrer (Reply #15)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 02:04 PM

Proud Liberal Dem (11,838 posts)

17. Of course they will

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I would expect nothing more of them.

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Response to cbrer (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 12:42 PM

HopeHoops (47,675 posts)

6. Not going to happen. She has that "Obama problem" - she's black.

That would turn off a lot of the "guns, beer, and white Jesus" idiots who support Rmoney.

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Response to HopeHoops (Reply #6)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 12:46 PM

cbrer (1,831 posts)

8. Will his "Big Business" bloc

Offset that fact? Or perhaps his larger contributors can help "finance" electronic voting. Hard to know which way a snake will strike.

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Response to cbrer (Reply #8)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 01:26 PM

HopeHoops (47,675 posts)

12. We need a political mongoose.

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Response to HopeHoops (Reply #12)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 01:45 PM

cbrer (1,831 posts)

16. I believe we've got one

He may not be true Liberal, but he's ours and he's very adept at anticipating GOP maneuvers and shutting them down. This can't help lies. But lies have a way of working out too.

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Response to cbrer (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 12:46 PM

MatthewStLouis (674 posts)

7. He will probably pick a quiet (near apolitical) republican.

I used to think he'd go with a "rock star". Now I'm thinking he doesn't want to be out-shined or upstaged, nor will he want a lightning rod. He will go with a safe pick. Colin Powell?

On second thought, maybe he will court the freebaggers and go with Eddie Munster.

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Response to MatthewStLouis (Reply #7)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 12:47 PM

cbrer (1,831 posts)

10. Powell won't do it.

As attractive as that choice is in some ways.

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Response to cbrer (Reply #10)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 01:38 PM

Proud Liberal Dem (11,838 posts)

14. He voted for Obama last time (which should be enough to sink him)

He's declined so far to tell us who he might be backing now but it doesn't seem that he's crazy about Romney.

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Response to cbrer (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 02:08 PM

hrmjustin (10,690 posts)

18. she won't do it.

reminds people of Bush.

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Response to cbrer (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 04:06 PM

Happydayz (112 posts)

19. I think Condi would do it

Rethugs will use Condi, the same way they used Herman Cain, but Condi has more respect and supporters than Cain. I don't think choosing Condi hurt Obama among blacks, but they can certainly play the "I'm not racist or sexist game" because a black female is on the ticket. Mittens and company would get a away with more blatant racism and sexism with Condi on the ticket. I can see him picking her now.

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Response to cbrer (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 08:23 PM

muriel_volestrangler (65,853 posts)

20. That poll was 2 months ago; since then, she's said she won't be his VP candidate

Speaking at a conference Thursday on "The Next Human Leap," former U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said there's one leap she won't be taking -- joining the upcoming presidential race as the Republican nominee for vice president.

"I know what I'm not cut out to do," said Rice, in response to a question at the annual Outlook Conference in San Jose sponsored by the Bay Area Business Council.

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/I-Wont-Be-Mitt-Romneys-VP-Condoleezza-Rice-150231515.html

Now, sayings like "I have no intention of ..." or "I'm not thinking about that..." or "I do not seek..." can get rolled back. But "I know what I'm not cut out to do" is pretty final. Who's going to pick someone who has already said they're not able to do it? The Democratic ads would write themselves.

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #20)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 03:46 AM

cbrer (1,831 posts)

21. You're probably right

And polls do age quickly.

I note a tiny loophole from which she could "graciously" accept her party's nomination. For the good of the nation you know...

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Response to cbrer (Original post)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 09:59 AM

beac (9,361 posts)

22. "Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US"

I'd like to see ol' "Historical Document" Condi try to run far enough away from that!

If she's smart, she'll keep her war criminal head down.

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Response to beac (Reply #22)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 10:23 AM

cbrer (1,831 posts)

23. There seems to be an inverse relationship

Between nominees accepting positions, and prosecution of war criminals in a federal executive staff.

In other words, zero prosecutions, at least 3 unprosecuted nominees.

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Politics 2013 (Forum)

Condi Rice has her running shoes on

1. I may be wrong, but doubt she will do it.

2. I doubt that the 911 war criminal will raise her head for this one.

3. I don't think he can afford ...

4. In what universe is she a "progressive Republican"? Who's saying THAT?

5. One must look beyond

9. Having a black female on the ticket I suppose would be rather *progressive* for the GOP

11. No way to know

13. Kind of strange

15. I believe they're examining every angle

17. Of course they will

6. Not going to happen. She has that "Obama problem" - she's black.

8. Will his "Big Business" bloc

12. We need a political mongoose.

16. I believe we've got one

7. He will probably pick a quiet (near apolitical) republican.

10. Powell won't do it.

14. He voted for Obama last time (which should be enough to sink him)

18. she won't do it.

19. I think Condi would do it

20. That poll was 2 months ago; since then, she's said she won't be his VP candidate

21. You're probably right

22. "Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US"

23. There seems to be an inverse relationship

9. Having a black female on the ticket I suppose would be rather progressive for the GOP