Tue Jun 19, 2012, 08:16 AM
democrat_patriot (2,766 posts)
On Morning "Joe" (I know" they said it is impossible for Romney to wo win
if the Hispanic numbers stay the same.
"It's over for Romney". Interesting.
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13 replies, 1453 views
| Author | Time | Post | |
| democrat_patriot | Jun 2012 | OP | |
| no_hypocrisy | Jun 2012 | #1 | |
| dkf | Jun 2012 | #6 | |
| One of the 99 | Jun 2012 | #7 | |
| Rosa Luxemburg | Jun 2012 | #11 | |
| Ilsa | Jun 2012 | #2 | |
| flpoljunkie | Jun 2012 | #3 | |
| gordianot | Jun 2012 | #4 | |
| liberalnationalist | Jun 2012 | #5 | |
| savalez | Jun 2012 | #8 | |
| Rosa Luxemburg | Jun 2012 | #10 | |
| Cosmocat | Jun 2012 | #9 | |
| hrmjustin | Jun 2012 | #12 | |
| Marsala | Jun 2012 | #13 |
Response to democrat_patriot (Original post)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 08:27 AM
no_hypocrisy (25,291 posts)
1. My guess is Romney can "top" Obama if he promises
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outright amnesty and citizenship, maybe allowing "alien" spouses and children to become naturalized as a one-time only deal. While republicans would get many more Latino/Latina votes, more registering in their party, I can't see the Body Republican getting behind this idea. They don't want permanent aliens. They don't want a potential 12 million-plus voting block that could just as easily vote for democrats. After all, not all Hispanics are like Marco Rubio.
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Response to no_hypocrisy (Reply #1)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 09:39 AM
dkf (32,616 posts)
6. And since he has no moral compass this is just a numbers decision.
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How much he gains vs how much he loses.
Obama may regret that he boxed Romney in. |
Response to no_hypocrisy (Reply #1)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 10:19 AM
One of the 99 (903 posts)
7. And then he'll lose many in the right wing
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who don't trust that he's a real conservative.
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Response to no_hypocrisy (Reply #1)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 12:29 PM
Rosa Luxemburg (22,003 posts)
11. Well, those in Arizona won't like it
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Dilemma time for the GOP!
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Response to democrat_patriot (Original post)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 08:31 AM
Ilsa (31,678 posts)
2. What scares me is the GOP realizes
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that they have to disenfranchise Latino voters to get the ratio "right". If they can either cause Latinos to be turned away at the polls or convince Latinos to stay home in November, they might be able to squeak past the Democrats.
They know that they have to either lie or do something crooked, or both. |
Response to democrat_patriot (Original post)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 08:37 AM
flpoljunkie (25,566 posts)
3. Catherine Crier pointed out that's why R's are working hard to suppress the Latino vote
Response to democrat_patriot (Original post)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 09:09 AM
gordianot (6,480 posts)
4. Bob Schieffer had Mitt all tied up in knots over this every cliche applies, rock and a hard place
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Irrestible force immovable object; just the sort of thing old media used to love and exploit.
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Response to democrat_patriot (Original post)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 09:26 AM
liberalnationalist (170 posts)
5. in my estimation
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lots of crap is going to blow up in Slick Willard's and the republican party's faces before November...I think they finally have enough rope to hang themselves.
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Response to democrat_patriot (Original post)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 11:22 AM
savalez (1,983 posts)
8. What's "wo win"?
Response to savalez (Reply #8)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 12:26 PM
Rosa Luxemburg (22,003 posts)
10. short for Wawa (Wawas)
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Response to democrat_patriot (Original post)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 11:33 AM
Cosmocat (5,395 posts)
9. This situation just BURNS my arse
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It just BURNS my arse that the "news cycle" on this was framed "Obama playing politics" because that is what the Rs were screaming like 2 year olds.
THEY have been playing politics on this for a decade and a half now. This is a real problem that needs solved, but they absolutely refuse to deal in the reality of having 12 million or so illegals - you gotta have a way to have them earn citizenship. There is no possible way, NONE you can depart that many people. Fact is, BO spent 3 years deporting more illegals than any other president and the ratio of people crossing borders illegal has slowed to an absolute drip - by far the lowest in modern history. From the beginning he committed to doing his part to secure the border then work toward developing a plan to work toward citizenship for those who are in the country. BUT, like everything else, the Rs block all his efforts to do anything to try to defeat his reelection. 20+ years ago, their God, Reagen, signed off on amnesty. Bush had 8 years, and the moral authority of 9-11, to really crack down on the borders, but like everthing else the twit was asleep at the wheel. They have been playing politics on this ever since Reagen, now that we have a president who has done his end with securing the border and is looking to resolve the rest of it, it is PLAYING POLITICS because these morons have no policy for it and have been playing politics with it, in the face of a demographic shift that would harm their deranged need for power. |
Response to democrat_patriot (Original post)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 01:58 PM
hrmjustin (9,096 posts)
12. The gop can not maintain their party with just white people! n/t
Response to democrat_patriot (Original post)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 02:23 PM
Marsala (2,086 posts)
13. Romney would have to win whites at a greater rate than Reagan in '84
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Not impossible, but very unlikely.
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