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Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 04:39 PM Jul 2015

YouGov/Economist: Clinton: 56% Sanders: 18%


This pretty much confirms the previous YouGov poll (showing Sanders at 24%) as an outlier.... unless you want to believe Sanders lost that much support, which I don't.

This new poll is pretty much in line with other recent polls.

A two-way race between Clinton and Sanders has a 65/24 split.

http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/3k13yqulyj/econToplines.pdf
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YouGov/Economist: Clinton: 56% Sanders: 18% (Original Post) Adrahil Jul 2015 OP
There is a lot of noise in these polls. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #1
Yep... Adrahil Jul 2015 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #5
Yeah, I don;t hang too much on YouGov... Adrahil Jul 2015 #7
According to yougov both Bush lll and Trump are upside down at 32/49 and 33/50 DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #9
That struck me too. Adrahil Jul 2015 #10
lol DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #11
YouGov was actually very accurate: JaneyVee Jul 2015 #17
looks like 'The Donald' leads at 28 percent HFRN Jul 2015 #3
Trump will call out Carly Fiorina for what a disaster she was at HP and Lucent HFRN Jul 2015 #4
Trump is our greatest gift. Sadly I don't think it will be forever giving. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #6
I really hope we get him through the fall! Adrahil Jul 2015 #8
I usually trust my political antenna. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #12
And yet again I do yougov polls and they didn't ask me! marlakay Jul 2015 #13
Joe and Bernie's net fav is better than Hillary ram2008 Jul 2015 #14
The newest poll only polled self identified democrats K lib Jul 2015 #15
You're right.... Adrahil Jul 2015 #16
Perhaps it's because they want to be like every pollster and only poll those who intend to vote... DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #18
Possibly, though there are other polls Adrahil Jul 2015 #19
That intend to vote in the Democratic primaries. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #20
right. nt Adrahil Jul 2015 #22
KNR! JaneyVee Jul 2015 #21
 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
2. Yep...
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 04:42 PM
Jul 2015

1) It's early

2) They each have their own sample model, which they use to weight responses.

They are mostly in the same ballpark though.

Response to Adrahil (Reply #2)

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
7. Yeah, I don;t hang too much on YouGov...
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 05:07 PM
Jul 2015

... they are a mediocre poller. But as you point out, this poll lies within the norm of the aggregated polls, so probably it isn't too far off.

I can't wait for Nate Silver to start running his model... it's the best in the biz. But I don't think he intends to start until we are a year out from the election. I'm sure he's running it offline, though.... I'd love to peek over his shoulder.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
10. That struck me too.
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 05:11 PM
Jul 2015

And don;t get me wrong... I think Bush III is awful, but I find it very amusing that Trump is hated at about the same level!

 

HFRN

(1,469 posts)
3. looks like 'The Donald' leads at 28 percent
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 04:45 PM
Jul 2015

eb Bush . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 14%
Ben Carson . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7%
Chris Christie . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3%
Ted Cruz . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4%
Carly Fiorina . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3%
Lindsey Graham . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2%
Mike Huckabee . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3%
Bobby Jindal . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1%
John Kasich . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2%
George Pataki . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0%
Rand Paul . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5%
Rick Perry . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2%
Marco Rubio . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4%
Rick Santorum . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1%
Donald Trump . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 28%
Scott Walker . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 13%
Other . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0%
No preference . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8%

 

HFRN

(1,469 posts)
4. Trump will call out Carly Fiorina for what a disaster she was at HP and Lucent
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 04:50 PM
Jul 2015

our usual worthless media keeps giving her a pass on that

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
8. I really hope we get him through the fall!
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 05:07 PM
Jul 2015

I think he is devastating the GOPs reputation, and that will pay dividends!

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,708 posts)
12. I usually trust my political antenna.
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 05:22 PM
Jul 2015

I thought his remarks about McCain would have sunk him...


I guess some Republicans hate McCain that much or maybe they hate Mexicans that much or maybe they hate McCain and Mexicans equally.

marlakay

(11,425 posts)
13. And yet again I do yougov polls and they didn't ask me!
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 06:16 PM
Jul 2015

I keep saying this because over the years and years I have been with them they ask are you dem or repub? liberal or conservative? Strong one? ask that all the time so when they do a poll like this they already know i am a strong liberal dem, so did they ask me about Bernie? No i would have said him!

So i want to know how they get a fair sampling when they already know so much about you. They know for instance I voted for Obama not Clinton in 08.

ram2008

(1,238 posts)
14. Joe and Bernie's net fav is better than Hillary
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 07:04 PM
Jul 2015

If I were looking at this and I were Joe, I might just consider jumping in the race.

Hillary underwater at 45/47 (-2)

Joe slightly underwater as well 43/44 (-1)

Sanders treading at 33/30 (+3)

Difference from Hillary being I don't think Biden will drop in the polls under media scrutiny, but rather increase.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
16. You're right....
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 07:57 PM
Jul 2015

I wonder why they changed the sampling?

Gonna dig into some if their polls.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,708 posts)
18. Perhaps it's because they want to be like every pollster and only poll those who intend to vote...
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 08:13 PM
Jul 2015

Perhaps it's because they want to be like every other pollster and only poll those who intend to vote in their respective party's primary.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,708 posts)
20. That intend to vote in the Democratic primaries.
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 08:18 PM
Jul 2015

That poll D leaning Independents that intend to vote in the Democratic primaries.





That's a huge difference.

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