Wall St Journal: "In This Money Race, Bernie Sanders WINS"

[99th_Monkey]

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The Wall Street Journal? Just Wow! Who'd-a thunk?


In This Money Race, Bernie Sanders Wins
July 17, 2015 * Wall St. Journal * by By PETER NICHOLAS

Democratic presidential frontrunner Hillary Clinton won the fundraising competition, but rival Bernie Sanders snagged the award for running the more frugal operation, campaign finance reports filed this week show.

Sen. Sanders of Vermont has been waging a campaign with a fraction of Mrs. Clinton’s overhead.

The Clinton campaign payroll dwarfed that of Mr. Sanders, who is running second in the Democratic field. Mrs. Clinton spent nearly $3.7 million on campaign salaries; Mr. Sanders, $112,000.

Her campaign spent more than $900,000 on polling in the quarter that ended June 30; Mr. Sanders, $0.

And on it goes.

The Clinton campaign, headquartered in Brooklyn, N.Y., spent about $464,000 on rent – more than 10 times what the Burlington, Vt.-based Sanders campaign laid out in rent payments.

Mr. Sanders, who has been seen traveling through Iowa in a rented Chevy, spent $47,000 on campaign travel; Mrs. Clinton, nearly 10 times that sum.

To Charts and remainder of article: http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/07/17/in-this-money-race-bernie-sanders-wins/

[99th_Monkey]

3. Tell that to the Wall Street Journal

i'm sure they'll be happy to "correct" it for you & Hillary. or is it O'Malley?

[99th_Monkey]

9. Thank you. You just inspired me to make another donation to Sanders

Keep it up, please.

[MohRokTah]

10. Send him $100 more!

Hell, give him the maximum.

He needs it because he'll never raise enough to win the GE.

[99th_Monkey]

17. When Bernie becomes THE Democratic candidate in the General

All bets are off. That's a whole new ball game, sorta like it was with Obama.

[MohRokTah]

19. .

Thanks, I needed a good laugh.

[Ed Suspicious]

38. Oh, do you pledge to vote for Bernie Sanders should he win the nomination?

[MohRokTah]

39. He won't win the nomination so no pledge is necessary

[Ed Suspicious]

41. I won't let your kind take the air out of my balloon. No one will vote for Bernie . . .

But the people.

[MohRokTah]

43. About 12 people.

That is all.

[Ed Suspicious]

45. 10-4 good buddy.

[MohRokTah]

47. Well, you've convinced me.

Hillary is a whore according to Bernie Sanders supporters and Bernie Sanders voting record in Congress is hideable.

[Ed Suspicious]

48. That's too bad. You could be a part of history.

[MohRokTah]

50. Bernie Sanders will NEVER be president.

NEVER.

[Ed Suspicious]

51. NEVER!!!!MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

[Ed Suspicious]

52. We'll welcome you into the fold with open arms when you get your head right on this election thing.

[Ed Suspicious]

56. Well, I'm sorry to hear that. I think everyone is a bit defensive lately. We aren't used to

brawling with our friends. I can understand your anger. I get equally angry when people like yourself come into a thread that is celebrating our candidate's momentum when you cast shade. It's frustrating to people who are putting their heart and soul into something to be told to grow up, dreamer, you're work is wasted on a loser. That's pretty damned frustrating. It's frustrating to hear our guy called a racist. I'm probably about where you are on your candidate. My excitement is severely diminished if Bernie is unsuccessful.

I think he'll be successful.

[Ed Suspicious]

59. Well that is really too bad. I wouldn't recommend cutting off your nose just to spite your face.

"Well, you and yours have guaranteed this Democrat who has never voted for a Republican in his life might just alter that stance if Sanders is nominated. At best, I sit it out and give up completely.

I'll never have a positive view of the man after encountering his supporters.

Most Clinton supporters here would be livid at me if I said I would vote R if Bernie didn't win. I guess we're held to a different standard.

I'm bailing for now. I don't dialogue too well with potential Walker/Bush voters.

[AgingAmerican]

74. So

Given your pledge to vote GOP when Bernie wins the nomination, which clown car passenger has your vote?

Just curious...

[AgingAmerican]

75. You won't vote for Bernie

...because one random person on the interwebs said something bad about your candidate?

That's deep.

[99th_Monkey]

64. Bernie didn't call Hillary a "whore"

ONE DU OP did apparently. Do you always base your decisions about who you WON'T
support, based solely on what some random supporter of a candidate says or does?

Or are you making a special exception to do this with Sanders?

[sabrina 1]

21. Me too, what a great idea to fund raise for Bernie, for every negative attack

we donate to his campaign. Just did so a couple of days ago, but I can chip in another $10.00 in honor of the nay sayers.

[99th_Monkey]

25. Huzza! you rock sabrina1 ~nt~

[sabrina 1]

27. Lol, so do you, 99th Monkey!

[Zorra]

23. Good idea! I'll send a few bucks too. nt

[sabrina 1]

28. Fantastic, turning negatives into positives, I like that!

[Trajan]

40. There is another Venn Diagram

Where assholes intersect with my ignore list ....

[smiley]

49. That's a bold statement

One that should come with a link attached.

[SunSeeker]

69. Thanks for the link on Bernie's voting record. Holy crap.

I knew about his pro gun votes, but was floored to read about him voting for that vile GOP amendment to the Homeland Security Bill that banned informing Mexico about America civilian border vigilantes (the racist Minutemen groups).

Here’s what I pulled up from the links in the hidden OP:

In 2006, the then-Republican majority in Congress wrote into law protections for anti-immigrant, racist vigilante groups. Even though the militia groups are involved in unsanctioned, armed activity along the Mexican-American border, the Republicans barred the US government from notifying the Mexican authorities about potential dangers to their citizens living or traveling near the US-Mexico border.

The amendment to the Homeland Security Appropriations bill reads:

“None of the funds made available by this Act may be used to provide a foreign government information relating to the activities of an organized volunteer civilian action group, operating in the State of California, Texas, New Mexico, or Arizona, unless required by international treaty.”

(I bolded for emphasis) The Congressional Record shows the Dems were livid. Dem rep. Loretta Sanchez from California demanded a recorded vote, not a mere anonymous voice vote. Here's the Congressional Record link to Sanchez' comments and that Amendment language
https://www.congress.gov/amendment/109th-congress/house-amendment/971

The language prohibited notifications of activity only in the states of California, Texas, New Mexico and Arizona - all states on the Mexican border. No such prohibition applied, of course, to groups operating in the border states of Alaska, Washington, Idaho, Montana, North Dakota, Minnesota, Michigan, New York, New Hampshire, Maine or Sen. Sanders' home state, Vermont. But then again, these militias are not trying to keep out white Canadians. They are only concerned with our brown southern neighbor, Mexico.

Republicans in Congress were protecting their base: the anti-immigrant racists and gun nuts, both of which were personified in the "Minuteman" organization, the members of which arm themselves and play illegitimate border patrol. But why did Bernie vote YES?
Thanks to Loretta Sanchez, here's the link to the recorded vote: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2006/roll224.xml

The amendment passed with 293 votes, including those of 69 Democrats. Some of those Democrats were too afraid to vote otherwise given Bush's victory in 2004, and others were too conservative. But none of them claimed to be progressive. Except Bernie Sanders.

Thanks to this amendment that Sanders voted for, leaders of the vigilante border militia groups are going around openly talking about putting bullets between the eyes of Mexicans and Latin Americans along the border, and gunning down American citizens in their homes and murdering them. These are no idle threats. One militia group murdered a latino American citizen and his 9 year old daughter in 2009. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Raul_and_Brisenia_Flores

[SusanCalvin]

78. Thanks for the info.

I'm going to look into this further when I get a chance. Or with any luck someone will do it for me.....! I do recall seeing something similar where there turned out to be a good explanation.

[Blue_In_AK]

68. Most of us have moved on from this, you know.

Most of the people I see now going on about the "w" word are Hillary supporters. Give it a rest.

[LordGlenconner]

76. The poster just called you an asshole, too

And I'm sure that will stand, too.

The good news: You'll get the last laugh, I'm sure, when the votes start getting counted.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

61. lol Trajan...good one!

[awake]

2. Hillary may be beginning to feel the other burn

the high burn rate of her funds.
Bernie is showing he knows how not to over spend and get things done.

[99th_Monkey]

4. Doe he ever. This article is so revealing, both of Bernie and Hillary. Love it.

Thank you Wall St. Journal!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

63. You're so right Monkey. The contrast between Bernie and Hillary is clear for all to see. Go Bernie!

[PoliticAverse]

5. I don't think Clinton is worried, there's about a billion more where that came from. n/t

[99th_Monkey]

7. So you think Bernie's people have already shot their wad?

I guess we will see, what we will see, down the road.

[PoliticAverse]

8. No, it was a comment about how much Clinton will get to spend in this campaign. n/t

[99th_Monkey]

11. And "Big Money Talks" right?

What really talks louder is the average size of individual donations,
and how many regular donors (such as myself) Bernie is accumulating
as he draws record crowds in every color of state, blue, red, purple.

[Adrahil]

18. No, but i think Bernie better assemble an actual national campaign....

Or if he does manage to get the nomination, he'll barely be a speed bump to the Kochs.

Do not fool yourself,mit will take. Billion+ and a massive organization to win the generals.

[99th_Monkey]

20. In due time, that will happen, as momentum keeps exponentially growing

But you are right, it will require an obscene amount of money, but history
is made by those who dare to dream big and keep their eye on the prize.

His campaign's frugality inspires me to donate more, because I know the
money is being used very wisely and it can be trusted with my money.
I love that feeling.

Whoever wins, this is going to be a damn interesting and exciting Primary
season.

[Adrahil]

22. He needs those organizations in place yeaterday...

... But in the end, I don't think it matters anyway. He will not win the nominatio, imo.

[99th_Monkey]

24. Thanks for your 'concern'

I really do hope you Clintonistas do please keep on underestimating Bernie &
the perfect populist storm that Bernie is setting in motion.

[Adrahil]

26. well, here's the thing...

I agree with Bernie on the issues more than I do HRC.

But i support HRC, becuase i do not think Bernie can win the generals...

I think his appeal will be limited, I think he is too inexperienced in national campaigns, and perhaps most importantly, he doesn't have the organization to do it.

Reports like this do not allay those fears.

But if he does win the nomination, I want him to win the election, so he had best get his shit together, IMO.

[RobertEarl]

32. here's the thing

This campaign is a People driven campaign. Meaning, not money driven.

Bernie's appeal is like nothing ever seen before. It is history in the making.

It is what the People have been hoping would happen and now we all have a front-row seat.

I dropped out of politics after Obama let us down, and now am itching to get back in it for Bernie. I don't need a top-down officer telling me how or where to campaign. I am his organization and I kick ass and take names. And I am not the only one. Not by a longshot. We are legion and we are about to make history.

See, that's the thing that will get Bernie elected. We are legion; we've nothing to lose and everything to gain.

[99th_Monkey]

35. +100 Couldn't have said it better. -nt-

[Paka]

44. +1,000

"We are legion; we've nothing to lose and everything to gain."

[Adrahil]

71. If you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you.

It takes money and organization to in a national election. I think you are fooling yourself.

However, I appreciate the courteous and heart-felt reply. If Bernie wins the nomination, I sincerely hope it is YOU doing the "I told ya so dance," and not me.

Since I don't agree with your assessment of the Obama Presidency AT ALL, I expect we will not see eye to eye here.

And I most CERTAINLY think we have something to lose.

[JDPriestly]

34. At the grass-roots level, Bernie is getting support from some of the leaders in the Party.

At the D.C. level, probably not. But here, locally, to my great surprise, I met a past president of our Democratic Club and he is on board with Bernie or Elizabeth Warren, not with Hillary. That surprised me greatly.

Bernie's volunteers are going to be some of the best and most experienced. Glass-Steagall is foremost on a lot of minds.

And Bernie will push to reinstate a modern form of Glass-Steagall. Hillary is unlikely to do that.

[Adrahil]

72. I'm not worried about his support.

I think if he wins the nomination, he'll get plenty of support. I'm talking about organization: professional, full-time staff. Ya know, the folks that organize and task the volunteers. That's a different animal altogether.

So far, it seems his organization is very thin. He'll need to beef it up very quickly, IMO

[JDPriestly]

73. Our local Democratic Club organized the 2012 Obama campaign with only volunteers.

We didn't have much input at all from professionals. We didn't need it. We worked together very well. We were short on volunteers, but lots of us worked very, very hard.

I don't believe anyone was paid. We even rented a headquarters. We have a lot of experience among us. Lots.

[sabrina 1]

29. Right there you have highlighted the problem for Corporate funded candidates.

THIS is going to be such a negative for those who are beholden to Corporate interests. For the first time, it is going to be a huge issue in this campaign. IF I were a Hillary supporter, I would not be advertising her huge Corporate funding.

As Biden said this week, 'we have to get this money out of our politics'. He sounded so like Bernie as he warned us that until THAT is accomplished, nothing else can be accomplished. It was as if he was endorsing Sanders.

[PoliticAverse]

70. For those that missed Biden's comments...

http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4544897/vice-president-biden-money-politics

[Sheepshank]

12. When there's no option but frugality, it's just wasted talking points

That Bernie wins any sort of an award.

I suppose I could file this in the "gotta make it a horse race" category.

[99th_Monkey]

13. You may want to consider filing it under "Handwriting on The Wall St. Journal" -nt-

[Sheepshank]

14. You want me to remind you of this silly article after the Primaries? Nt

[99th_Monkey]

15. Sure. nt

[sabrina 1]

30. Another negative comment on Sanders from you. Did you read what Biden had to

say this week about the money in Politics? Damn, he sounded just like Bernie, WARNING us that we must get the money out of our political system before we can accomplish anything else. It sounded like he was endorsing Bernie.

[Sheepshank]

31. Really..that's rich coming from you

After all the crap you've been spouting about Obama and Hillary over the years...

At least I'm not spreading lies as you had claimed on a previous post. Or did you forget again and want me to remind you?

[sgtbenobo]

67. I was going to say something really fucking awful because it's late....

.... and and have to go to bed so I can meet myself leaving the house in the morning. Go Sabrina! You are doing the work that I can not do. I'm going to put my daughters breakfast out and give up for awhile. But, let's suffice it to say, "I would rather have dog jism in my ears than listen to another fucking shit-head say Bernie can't win. He's already winning. Ok, I said something mean. Now I am going to bed to meet myself coming out in the morning. Like so many others.

nite.

[JDPriestly]

36. Bernie's frugality is a quality that will appeal to Republicans who want the government

to spend less. Bernie can do a lot on less. Just wait and see.

[udbcrzy2]

16. Bernie Sanders WINS - yes he will n/t

[Agnosticsherbet]

33. So says Rupert Murdoch sphincter like mouth.

[bluedigger]

37. "National surveys show Mrs. Clinton enjoys a large lead over the best of the Democratic field."

And we know who the best is, too! Remember, you read it in the WSJ first!

[progree]

46. Hillary is by far the better job creator

The Clinton campaign payroll dwarfed that of Mr. Sanders, who is running second in the Democratic field. Mrs. Clinton spent nearly $3.7 million on campaign salaries; Mr. Sanders, $112,000.

^H ^H ^H

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[99th_Monkey]

55. Personally, I'm damned impressed by what Bernie has done with only $112,000

for salaries, but then I'm not sure you are completely serious.
with that {sarcasm thingy} on the bottom of your post.

[progree]

57. I was being sarcastic

I use my home-brewed

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so that people won't see it until they've read most or all of the post. Whereas if I used DU's



people would see it before reading the first word.

[99th_Monkey]

62. These daze, it's sadly sometimes hard to tell

So thank for leaving a few bread crumbs to follow.

It was funny though. The 'Job Creator' Campaign. .. It does have a ring to it.

[progree]

65. Yeah, I know. After reading all the "Bernie is a racist" posts (paraphrasing) and

as hard as it is to believe, they are serious, so one never knows. Somehow a 3rd Way Wall Street say-what-the-polls-say-they-want-to-hear-at-the-moment triangulator would be better for minorities or something or somesuch or whatever, like for sure, I guess.

Edited to add:

[99th_Monkey]

66. It's been quite a week on DU

It's hard to believe how many more weeks we're going to be at this, before
the actual primary elections even start, but it's a good thing we have that time
to close what's left of the apparent gap in the polls still.

I'm turning in now. Thanks for the exchange.

[jtuck004]

77. "Hillary is by far the better job creator" < Well, that's true. But one can only run for president

for so long.

Bernie supporters are more concerned with after.